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athenegoddess
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posted December 05, 2011 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
iQ...everything you said sounds so accurate for me after meeting this person. I have indeed gotten to the point where physical gratification is just... not so much of a big deal anymore..it literally sometimes appalls me.

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posted December 05, 2011 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why don't you put up your charts Athene?
You can delete the natal info and then load the images along with Juno, Kaali, Isis, Osiris, Valentine, Amor, Union and Karma.

Ceridwen,
I still have a couple of calculations to make.
Your case, as usual, stretches my mind to the max

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posted December 05, 2011 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi IQ,

Thanks for the info on twin flames! I have karma conjunct exact venus and conjunct mars by one degree. I feel that in this lifetime my romantic relationships are very karmic and involve soulmates. I feel I am here to pay off karmic debts to hubby and my friend, I entered both of their life when they were going through a crisis. In draconic hubby's vertex conjuncts my draconic karma, venus and mars. In tropical my friend's vertex conjuncts my karma, venus and mars. Both of these conjuncts between their vertex and my venus and karma are exact. We are in a love triangle. I feel I am here to pay off karmic debt to both of them before I can be with my twinflame.

Composite spirit with my friend is in scorpio at 29 degrees and falls in composite 8th house, being intimate with him is extremely spiritual and feels like nothing I have ever experienced before in my life. Every time I come from seeing him people say my aura looks really vibrant and that I look great. I suspect that he could be my twin flame but I have karma with hubby and friend has bipolar and is convinced he is here to work on himself in this lifetime and although he would like to be in a relationship feels he is not meant to be in one in this life but he is meant to work on himself. He says I am the first girl he has gotten interested in who is balanced. I met him right after I finally forgave my ex who it took me about 4 years to get over but about 8 to forgive him 100% for the pain the breakup cost me (my ex is definitely a soulmate from a past life who I had karma with and also a very strong connection). Now I am paying karma to hubby but my twin flame is my friend who I have that gaze with and since the moment I saw him something went off for both. I have ring right finger injured which happen several months before I met friend and friend has freckle in the right middle finger next to the ring finger. I feel I am meant to be with hubby in this lifetime to learn needed lessons and pay off karmic debt but I never thought he was my twinflame.

I dont know if my friend is my twinflame for sure or not, he could be though. What is evident is that I have karma with both him and hubby and I am here to pay off this karma in this lifetime so that in next perhaps I could finally be with my twinflame whether is my friend, ex or someone I haven't met.

Would the aspects I mention confirm this, the fact that karma conjuncts exact my venus and that in draconic hubby's vertex conjuncts my karma and venus and mars and in tropical my friend's vertex conjuncts exact my karma and venus and by one degree my mars???

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posted December 05, 2011 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
iQ...everything you said sounds so accurate for me after meeting this person. I have indeed gotten to the point where physical gratification is just... not so much of a big deal anymore..it literally sometimes appalls me.

I think he is talking about lustful sex but you should have sex with your twinflame it would just be different from any sex you have ever had in your life, it will feel extremely spiritual to the point that you won't want to be with anybody else ever again.

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posted December 05, 2011 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do kinda feel that way.. except I still desire an old flame very much but he and I are another story.

And yes it is the best sex I have ever had. When we first met we must have done it 8 times a day.. lol..

I'm gonna post the syanstry soon.

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posted December 05, 2011 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your chakras become extremely activated when you have very spiritual sex, you will feel a rush of energy flowing through eachother's energy field during and after sex with such a person.

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posted December 05, 2011 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
[BYour case, as usual, stretches my mind to the max

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Are you talking about the synastry I have asked you about?
Well, it is not the guy I have had that intense ecclipse-"dream" (yeah, let`s call it a dream, is probably easier this way) about.

Anyway, the guy you are doing the synastry of for me - what struck me the first moment was how it felt so "unburdened", and you know the aspects, there is such a lot of Karma in the charts, but meeting him I did not feel a bit of it, I did and do not have a past life recall, which I found weird, and to me that almost indicated like it was "blocked" for some reason. After reading your latest mail I can imagine why it was or is blocked though.

The feeling I get around him is actually one of "freedom" and "carefreeness", which is so opposite the astrology I guess.


But however it may be, nah, I don`t think he is my Twin flame. BUT he is important nevertheless, maybe as a catalyst, I donīt exactly know yet.

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Originally posted by amelia28:
I think he is talking about lustful sex but you should have sex with your twinflame it would just be different from any sex you have ever had in your life, it will feel extremely spiritual to the point that you won't want to be with anybody else ever again.


Sex with your twinflame is BLISS. Simple as that.

Meaning Bliss on all levels, emotional, mental, physical, psychic, energetical, spiritual.
It is a feeling of being one, not just with your twinflame but as if you are connected with the whole universe, as if you are one with everything, and everything is within you.

Or something like that I imagine.

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posted December 05, 2011 02:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Athenegoddess,

Hey, he was born just one day before me, though 13 years later. lol


Is that Moon-Neptune-conjunction close enough to the ASC? It looks like it, ,but I am not sure about the degrees.
If it is, it would be an indicator for the soulconnection between the two of you,c ombining Moon and ASC, plus Neptune, so adding the spiritual level to it.
And of course there is an ASC-IC-cconjunction for soulfamily-hints.


With Saturn-Sun-conjunction in the 12th house it looks like there is Karma from past lives, or Karma invloving spiritual development.

Oh wow and I just see, Karma conjunct Karma and Amor. This looks potentially very loving to me, and Karma conjunct karma is probably a sign of having something to do together, in your case, the karmic mission seems to be AMOR.

Sun-Valentine is close to the DESC, though not sure how close exactly, is it close enough?


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posted December 05, 2011 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont care so much about the sex in general. I'm more interested in the spiritual. Because if he is my twin flame, ya the sex is great, but I want more than physical gratification now. I'm seeking eternal existential bliss.

My Sun is 8 Cancer

His DSC is 11 Cancer

His Moon 13 Scorpio
Mars 14 Scorpio
Pluto 11 Scorpio

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posted December 05, 2011 02:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
also looks like the Sun-Valentine is trine Moon-Mars-Pluto, at least one of these.

Sexy. Romantic. Intense. Emotional.

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posted December 05, 2011 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes.. it's all of those. Thank u for your observation.

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Hmm, honestly, for my taste the orbs are a tad wide, especially for twin flame relationships, but maybe some other planet acts as bridge bringing them closer together.

Maybe his DSC works in that regard.

On which degree is your Valentine btw? Mabe 9 or 10 degrees?
That would make such a delicious trine to his Pluto and being on his DESC.


I know that my orbs are more narrow than of other astrologers. But first of all I think if we are checking for soulmates or even twinflames, the rarest and tightest aspects have priority.
Secondly, if I am using asteroids, I like to keep my orbs VERY tight (2 degrees, for conjunctions I go up to 3 degrees).

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posted December 05, 2011 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Valentine is exactly conjunct my Sun so its 8 degrees as well.

As far as the orbs being too wide, I completely disagree. We have many exact placements that automatically override 4 orbs.. besides anything under 5 orb is damn close in my opinion.. Especially when there are so many aspects going on.

And conjunctions are still a coming together no matter what the orb. If it was 10 degrees away then I would have to agree with u.

Closest aspects take priority? We have plenty of those. You have to take the whole of the synastry into consideration when making that assessment.

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posted December 05, 2011 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish there was a universe phone number we can call, and give us the answers..

Press 1 for life purpose
Press 2 for soul mate
Press 3 for Twin Flame..

LOL
Where is that big red easy button???

I know my life in general is karmic.. (im an 8)
So I feel like I met alot of Karmic relationships.. I consider these my soulmates.. Because we made an agreement to meet.
I know Gem, my ex husband and my kids are my soul mates..
I have deep feelings for all of them.. But in different ways..
As for pisces.. IDK what it is.. Its deeper than anything I have ever felt.. Is he my twin? well probably not..
I wish I knew what the difference was.. When we first started talking.. My hormones went all wacko on me. I couldnt sleep,eat.. Concentrate on anything but him...
Let me tell you, this sux.. I was a mess..

I have checked the heliocentric charts

There is a
DW Venus conjunct Juno
DW Earth/Moon conjunct the others Mars
(and also Merc in my case)

Shrug.. Im not going to do anything at all... Just let the universe have its plan play out..

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posted December 05, 2011 03:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
We have many exact placements

Yes, that is why in your case I would still consider them. If you hadnīt the exact aspects, I definitely would not.

(though PLANETARY aspects with an orb of 5 degree are still felt).


Energies still mesh, even with sign background,b ut that is true for everyone you meet, not just your twinflame, and I think you were asking for aspects that signify an union with your twin flame,r ight?

ONE way to approach this is looking for the most individual and unique aspects (as Twin flames are unique), and I doubt that there are twin flames without exact aspects to Moon or ASC-DESC.

*shrugs* But of course I know that there might be different opinions on that.


ANOTHER way is that I strongly believe that Twin flames will have conjunctions and oppositions between core objects and probably those relating to love and relationship.

I put emphasis on the conjunction and opposition, because there is only ONE for each position.

A planet on 15 Aries has two possible "trine-placements", but only one spot in the chart is conjunct or opposite.


THIRDLY, complimentary aspects, pairings, Yin and yang. Sun and Moon. Isis and Osiris. Eros and Psyche. And others of course.

Usually the elements will be the same or at least compatible.


the reason for me thinking that is that Twin flames are described as being the SAME energy, but with different orientation (masculine-feminine, Yin and Yang).


Of course you can look from a different perspective on it. But this is so far what I have found to make the most sense to me and being confirmed in real life examples (though I am not convinced it is only true for twin flames)

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posted December 05, 2011 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm waiting for iQ's input.

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posted December 05, 2011 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That looks like a soulmate, definitely not a twin flame imo.

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posted December 05, 2011 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Sex with your twinflame is BLISS. Simple as that.

Meaning Bliss on all levels, emotional, mental, physical, psychic, energetical, spiritual.
It is a feeling of being one, not just with your twinflame but as if you are connected with the whole universe, as if you are one with everything, and everything is within you.

Or something like that I imagine.


I agree with you!

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posted December 05, 2011 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
That looks like a soulmate, definitely not a twin flame imo.

Can you elaborate?

See, because His Ascendant is conjunct My IC.. that is huge alone and it's extremely rare and I don't think that is a soul mate aspect because I know what a soul mate is and its not comfort like this.

Besides Ruth Aharoni explained the signs for a twin flame in her book and she said number one thing is angles are either square, conjunct, or opposing eachother under 3 orb. Read her book.. I think she knows what she's talking about.

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posted December 05, 2011 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
I wish there was a universe phone number we can call, and give us the answers..

Press 1 for life purpose
Press 2 for soul mate
Press 3 for Twin Flame..

LOL
Where is that big red easy button???


LMAO! I feel you.

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posted December 05, 2011 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Can you elaborate?

See, because His Ascendant is conjunct My IC.. that is huge alone and it's extremely rare and I don't think that is a soul mate aspect because I know what a soul mate is and its not comfort like this.

Besides Ruth Aharoni explained the signs for a twin flame in her book and she said number one thing is angles are either square, conjunct, or opposing eachother under 3 orb. Read her book.. I think she knows what she's talking about.


Actually... Soulmates have this too. Just look at the readings section of lindaland lol. There's a girl that has her angles even closer conjuncting the guy's one.


Anyway, it's not only that aspect, you shouldn't put too much stock into what somebody says in a book... And IMHO your synastry isn't that impressive. Relationship is definitely karmic, but not your Twin flame though.

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posted December 05, 2011 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm just saying that is what she said.. it's not the one aspect we have as you can see in my original post.

And FYI, I'd rather place my trust into the opinion of a psychic astrologer best selling author than someone posting on an astrology forum.

Also, you are being silly by saying it's not. You don't know.

And if it's not. Do tell me... What aspects are 'suppose' to be there?

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posted December 05, 2011 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like I said, it's my opinion lol... But I think alot of people will share my sentiment.

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