posted December 05, 2011 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
I can, just not going to waste my time on somebody that behaves like you lol.
Tone down on the defensiveness and try to grow up alittle. Don't post on a public forum if you can't deal with other people's opinions
without resorting to jabs. =)
Thanks.

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posted December 05, 2011 04:38 PM            

A mere opinion is not what I'm looking for.

posted December 05, 2011 04:52 PM            

I only say this because if you love them and they love you, that is all that really matters the label doesn't matter, the aspects don't matter. Spend your time communicating your love for one another, not on this..unless you are actively trying to resolve specific issues in your connection. Don't let all of this determine the value of what you have with this person.

posted December 05, 2011 07:51 PM            

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I think a question for me and for anyone else who might be interested in 'proving' a soulmate and or twin flame is why does this matter to you? I mean that sincerely.

I only say this because if you love them and they love you, that is all that really matters the label doesn't matter, the aspects don't matter. Spend your time communicating your love for one another, not on this..unless you are actively trying to resolve specific issues in your connection. Don't let all of this determine the value of what you have with this person.

Isn't being here together on this plane enough? Haven't you been through enough? All the things a soul can endure, and here you two are--together. Able to kiss, touch, taste, feel and breathe together. Is that not blissful enough? Love, live and treasure the sacred union for what it is. Rest your mind love, nurture what you've found, before you end up proving yourself out of it! The two of you are all the proof you need!

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Beautiful! you are right we should all just chill about the labels and just live in the here and now and enjoy each moment we have with all our soulmates instead of getting caught up in a hierarchical soulmate system.

However discussing this topic is attractive and fascinating so I guess we just need to discuss it in a detached manner without getting lost in it or letting it define our lives to much so we don't forget the real reason why we are here: to grow together and live in the here and now.

Also, What ifffff your twin flame has not been determined yet. Let me explain...we all have multiple soulmates but we grow at different rates spiritually so perhaps your twin flame has not been decided yet and depends on which of your soulmates will be growing at the same rate as you so at your last life you two ascend together.

It just makes me wonder what a twin flame is, its origin…some people think we just have a bunch of soulmates but in our last life we ascend alone and don’t believe in twin flames. Is there truly is such a thing as twin flame and if so does it mean that when your soul was created it was divided and in your last lifetime they will merge again. Why was the soul divided then in the first place??

posted December 05, 2011 08:13 PM            

And just a general food for thought (and delicious, soul stirring poetic beauty)"

"Say not, "I have found the truth," but rather, "I have found a truth."

Say not, "I have found the path of the soul." say rather, "I have met the soul walking upon my path."

For the soul walks upon all paths.

The soul walks not upon a line, neither does it grow like a reed.

The soul unfolds itself, like a lotus of countless petals."

posted December 05, 2011 08:22 PM            

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There is a divine mother and father. They create together. There is no such thing as being able to ascend alone.

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posted December 05, 2011 08:25 PM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:
http://www.harusami.com/soul2soul/twinsoul.html

And just a general food for thought (and delicious, soul stirring poetic beauty)"

[b] "Say not, "I have found the truth," but rather, "I have found a truth."

Say not, "I have found the path of the soul." say rather, "I have met the soul walking upon my path."

For the soul walks upon all paths.

The soul walks not upon a line, neither does it grow like a reed.

The soul unfolds itself, like a lotus of countless petals."

- Khalil Gibran [/B]

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posted December 05, 2011 08:27 PM            

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This is so me, I never claim to have found the truth bc that kind of thinking is exactly what keeps you from finding the truth . Beautiful quote! Will check out link tonight when I get a chance. Thanks Firewire.

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No problem at all Amelia!

posted December 05, 2011 08:38 PM            

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Every Ascended Master has a twin flame.

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posted December 05, 2011 10:13 PM            

Is there such a thing as a tipple flame, triplets?? LOL

Think about it: hubby's vertex conjuncts my karma/venus and mars exact by karma/venus and by one orb mars in draconic and friend's vertex aspects to me are the same as hubby but in tropical. I am a 33 life path and they are each 3 and I feel they both help me grow very much, kind of like my fuel and I help them grow very much, fueling them.

posted December 05, 2011 11:43 PM            

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There will be Multi Dimensional Awakening after meeting a Twin Flame.

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Silent Gazing of the Eyes will communicate volumes.

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The 7th Cusp and a packed 7th House are major clues.

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Asteroids Valentine, Karma and Union are vital.

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The easiest clue is the Mutual Gaze. Astrological Analysis should be done after the Mutual Gaze seems like a permanent bond.

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Also was wondering if you knew of any twin flame couples, would it be possible to post their synastry?
AND I read something online about 11/11/11 being Twin Flame Day, the twins are preparing to be reunited, en masse, or something of that nature?

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There are of course other rare combination as well

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athenegoddess,
I will be interested in iQ's comment on your synastry, there is a huge draw there, you already know. It seems you're v.fortunate having Sun conj Valentine so tightly in the natal. I wonder if iQ would say Karma/Valentine/Union so strongly natally activated may be a factor for drawing the twin to one during this lifetime (in the physical plane) (?) You also have Union conj Juno. Oh, it's both you and your partner who have that.

"she said number one thing is angles are either square, conjunct, or opposing eachother under 3 orb"
---I agree with others who mentioned that this is a common feature in soul mates, I see it often, even in families. Not to say that it wouldn't be a feature in twin flames, but I'm not so sure it would be the feature (if one does exist). It is definitely significant. I think any strong conjunction of angle or personal planet/point makes 2 people attuned to the same frequency, destined to walk a certain path together (for however long), and that would apply to soul mates and twins. They are both impacting the other's life.

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Originally posted by Lioness:
I wish there was a universe phone number we can call, and give us the answers..

Press 1 for life purpose
Press 2 for soul mate
Press 3 for Twin Flame..

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Originally posted by FireWire:
I think a question for me and for anyone else who might be interested in 'proving' a soulmate and or twin flame is why does this matter to you? I mean that sincerely.

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posted December 06, 2011 12:49 AM            

AIR: Gemini, Libra, Aquarius
FIRE: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius
WATER: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces
EARTH: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn

The big three (sun, moon, rising) are of the same element or in compatible (sextile) elements. If one person has two fire and one air, the other person does too. They are less likely to be twin souls if, say, one person had one earth and the other didn't.

Rising signs (might be) the same with the rulers in the same element.

The moon of one is conjunct an angle of the other's chart.

One of these seem to be a cardinal rule so far: Sun is conjunct the moon of the other; moons are in the same element, or moons are in the same sign.

Twin Souls meet when there's a personal planet progressed to the sun/moon midpoint on each natal chart.

There may be a preponderance of aspects, especially by trine, from the personal planets of one's natal chart to another's Midheaven.

Many planets of one person's chart fall into the angular houses of the other's natal chart.

The numbers 6, 9, 15, 24, 27 seem to be involved with twin souls birthdays. Twin Souls often meet on one of those days, too.

Twin soul relationships tend to be short-lived. These are the reasons that we've seen so far: death, explosiveness from the intensity of being with your mirror, spiritual immaturity of one or both partners, and most often, obligation to an already committed relationship/marriage.

Links to Twin Souls and Soul Mates Sites

Links

At Crystalinks.com:

posted December 06, 2011 01:27 AM            

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I'm not sure that you have to worry about any of this regarding that type of connection. I personally feel it might transcend much of this.

When you have reached...hm...how do you say, perhaps "where you need to be" in your evolution, you will find each other. Intuitively you will know. And, life factors and similarities will just be there. You won't need any astrology or such to confirm it. You won't desire such things to connect the dots--as you two are the dots connected!

Moreover, I don't think twin flames have karma to clear once they finally to reunite. But as I understand, it takes MUCH work on a spiritual level to get to that place. But really, that is why we are all here. But our being here it doesn't necessarily mean you will meet them this go around, on this plane! Or that the two of you will even be together on a romantic level. The connection will be unmistakable.

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If you believe that synastry can indicate how people interact with and respond to each other and the ultimate effect they will have on one another, or if you believe that a natal chart reflects the person it belongs to, or if you believe in general that the positions of planets and asteroids in the sky can determine world events...I actually don't see how it's far-fetched that you can actually see in a synastry chart, indications of whether or not two people are soul mates or twin flames.

I think if they are, there's no way that won't show up in the synastry, at least a little bit. And if it can't be seen, it's because either the person reading the synastry doesn't know what they're doing, or that the two people involved, just aren't twin souls.

I'm speaking from personal experience on this a bit actually, because I do believe I definitely have crossed paths with my twin soul and I have absolutely no doubts about that in my mind. And it was kind of an immediate, instant thing - I laid eyes on him for the first time as a (very young) child and right away I had a strong reaction to him and felt a really strong pull towards him and that continued, literally for decades. And no one coached me into it or anything, it was just something very natural and instant and innate. I think on some level I knew. I could barely read, I really was just a kid - 3 or 4 years old - and I knew.

Later on when I was older and had access to astrology - honestly the synastry just proved it. When you have a Davidson composite with a grand trine, a kite, and a pentagon in it, something is up. In the synastry when there's all kinds of vertex and north node activity...something is up. When the asteroids even support all that and make pivotal aspects to certain key places in the chart, too...