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amelia28
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posted December 09, 2011 03:34 PM
  
Playing devil's advocate: I have been thinking a lot about this topic in the last week and I definitely believe firmly in soulmates but I don't think I believe in twinflames.If twinflames exist that means that our consciousness remains intact when we reincarnate. I know that information cannot be destroyed so when you die your consciousness is not destroyed but that doesn't mean that it stays glued remaining an individual entity. You die and your energy/consciousness disperses into the universe so when you reincarnate you end up been a combination of the consciousness of different people. We are all one and come from the same source. I feel most likely we ascend alone once all our soul mates have helped us achieve that balance between ying and yang internally. The point is to become whole in ourselves. We are all part of god and become divided to experience polarities and by getting rid of these polarities and achieving balance in ourselves we become like god (when we were all one) and ascend. I think twinflame is not your other half as we all come from the same source, saying that there is another half and you need it to ascend is fantasizing the concept of ascension. I think we all have soul mates which help us raise our vibrational level and become more whole in ourselves and finally be able to ascend to a higher dimension. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted December 17, 2011 04:37 PM
Decided to test out iQ's soul mate calculator. Here are our Aspects:Rule: His Ascendant is trine my Karma 1 orb 3 His Pluto conjunct my Psyche 1 orb
3 My Pluto conjunct his Psyche 1 orb
3 My Sun trine his Aphrodite 3 orb
3 My Sun trine his Psyche 0 orb
2 My Pluto trine his Aphrodite 2 orb
2 My Sun trine his Juno 1 orb
1 His Asc opposition my Valentine 3 orb
1 His Sun opposition my Juno 1 orb
3 His Venus conjunct my Amor 1 orb
1 My Pluto trine his Juno 2 orb
3 My Saturn conjunct his Sun 3 orb
1 His Ascendant trine my Karma 1 orb
1 His Sun oppositon my Union 0 orb
1 His Mars trine my North Node 1 orb
1 My Mars trine his Tyche 2 orb
1 My Eros opposition his Fortuna 2 orb
2 My Juno opposition his Saturn 2 orb
2 His Amor conjunct my Karma 1 orb
2 His Pluto trine my Sun 1 Orb
1 My Vesta trine his Sun 1 orb Soul Mate Pairs: 5 My Venus Q his Mars 1 orb
5 My Eros Q his Psyche 1 orb = 48 Points Him:
Sun - Fire
Mars - Water
Eros - Fire
Pluto - Water Venus - Earth
Aphrodite - Water
Psyche - Water
Juno - Water Me:
Sun - Water
Mars - Water
Eros - Fire
Pluto - Water Venus - Air
Aphrodite - Earth
Psyche - Water
Juno - Air = 8 Points
Total Points = 56 Points. Synastry plain and simple - where we come together and where we complete each other; Conjunctions and Oppositions:
His Ascendant 11 Capricorn
My Ascendant 12 Libra
--------------------------- His Sun in Sagittarius 25
His Mercury Sagittarius 21
His Saturn Sagittarius 23
His Uranus Sagittarius 26 My Saturn Sagittarius 28
My Uranus Sagittarius 28 My Venus Gemini 14
My Mercury Gemini 19 --------------------------- His Venus Capricorn 24
His Neptune Capricorn 7 My Moon Capricorn 8
My Neptune Capricorn 8 My Sun Cancer 8 --------------------------- His Moon Scorpio 13
His Mars Scorpio 14
His Pluto Scorpio 11 My Pluto Scorpio 9 My Jupiter Taurus 25 --------------------------- We both have every single planet conjunct or opposing EXCEPT my Mars and his Jupiter. Those are the only two singled out planets. The reason I'm posting this, is because I already confirmed he is my twin flame via a very special person. I knew it. IP: Logged |
lucie
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posted December 17, 2011 05:14 PM
happy hellos!wow a whole lot of info in here!i am wondering about soulmate connection too,twinflame,hm i dont know... what i found out on my own is that each person with who i felt deeply connected with in this lifetime,seemed to fit my birthchart perfectly.
to be more precise,i challenged myself,draw one circle by hand,put in all the planets of my own and put in all the planets of that *other*,then i didnt use and orb wider than 3 degrees.i connected all planets (without asteroids!!!) in my own chart + in his chart and made a third chart by connecting everything.those people who i felt a soulconnection with showed me that their chart and mine combined fit perfectly!and the resulting geometry of the 2 in 1 chart,the resulting third chart displayed a perfect mandala,geometrically perfect,all planets were involved (and i didnt use extraordinary aspects,only the common ones,like sextile,square,opp.,conjunction,inconjunct YOD).for me it became very clear that those who i regard as soulmates made a perfect match with synastry!it felt like if one code meets another and the combination makes a greater third one.i wanted to share this theory for it is something i figured out all by myself  ...maybe the twinflame is here to be found too IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted December 17, 2011 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by amelia28:
I think twinflame is not your other half as we all come from the same source, saying that there is another half and you need it to ascend is fantasizing the concept of ascension. I think we all have soul mates which help us raise our vibrational level and become more whole in ourselves and finally be able to ascend to a higher dimension.
I do believe in soul mates, but to me the twin flame, if we meet them, their purpose in the life is to raise us, by our union with them, to a higher vibrational level, and by that I mean to re-awaken us to the different planes of reality, and the power/inner divinity that we each possess. The difficulty with twin flame comes in getting our energies balanced. I don't believe you need to be balanced to meet a twin, but I do believe you need to have at least some regard/respect for the spiritual plane of reality and to have a consciousness that is open to give/receive love. I don't think twin flames are necessarily meant to be married, or meant to be with each other for decades (if they do meet in the physical) but I do see them as less complex relationships than soul mates. Soul mates to me implies a lot of work, or maybe not, but generally the associations have worldly, simple tones to them, they help us along our path. Twin flames don't really interfere with our path, imo, they open us up to see more of what surrounds us, they challenge each other to be whole in and of themselves. Soul mate to me could be an enemy, a family member, someone who teaches you a lesson about life, maybe something practical, but all along they are the guideposts sort of shining the way to where you will be, maybe to where you are meant to be, via the choices you make after the interactions that you have with them (NN conj ASC in synastry, to me, classic sign of a Soul Mate). Twin Flames, in my mind, show you who you are as a mirror, and also in contrast what you are not, they're not really in the business of teaching lessons (that is Soul Mate territory, for good or ill) and they're not in the business of making you struggle or causing you pain in anyway, since that is not a message of love. Twin Flames are meant to give each other love. Near Twins are human and the messages they give each other can be misinterpreted, it's part of the process, but there is never a direct intention to hurt or cause pain. If they are hurt, the other feels it as well, their human nature may kick in and may cause some hurt in return, because of the msg being misinterpreted from the other, but they feel hurt when doing that, there is never anyone who strikes the first blow. Soul mates can, and often do, hurt you intentionally; Twin Flames would never. Twin Flames consistently bring you back to your relationship with the love and light of the universe. I've met a near Twin, and that is of which I speak; I don't need it to be validated astrologically by any means, but I like the subject and I like looking for correspondences because it's intriguing. I don't really care if I meet a Twin Flame, or not; I'm very happy and content with my near-Twin experience, which I've seen to also be called a Karmic Soul Mate. Likewise, I don't really care for terms, either, but they help to categorize the experience when you're getting down into details.
This may sound funny: I'm not even sure if I believe in the 'hard science' of reincarnation (whatever explanation anyone has come up with, maybe because I don't have any past life recalls) but I am convinced of soul mates, and since my experience, I am now open to the concept of a Twin Flame. And now, with what iQ said about Twins jumping into bodies, I've been thrown yet again, but I guess the whole point is that it is a learning process. I read in some places where the Twin Flames can cause hurt, and so can the Near Twin, the difference being that Near Twins are separated and want to reunite, whereas the Twin Flame knows you cannot hold onto another and trusts in the will of the universe to bring them back together, if it sees fit. I want badly to see my Near Twin again, so that is what I am basing it on, and also why I don't call it a Twin Flame experience, also because I have a lot of love bound up for him, and I believe with the Twin, the love expands out to many others, it does not stay encased in that relationship; my overwhelming love, which I do mete out to others at times, but it stays very much w.him only. Every time he sees me he calls me 'my love' so it's much the same for him, I don't want to push him into anything or burden him with my feelings so I let him go (but I didn't cut the cords that connected when we met, he might have though), but I think of him often and am happy to love truly only him, it's been that way for 11 yrs. I've loved/been loved by others as well, romantically, but not as much as him, no where near. It's hard to match that love on a human level, you can try to express it, or embody it the best you can, but to match that feeling is really indescribable. All the men I've been with since, they have to remind me of him, or else I'm not interested. That's why I find it easy to drop partners, one for another, because if someone else comes along that reminds me more of him, that is the one that I will turn to, without any further consideration.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted December 17, 2011 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by lucie:
and the resulting geometry of the 2 in 1 chart,the resulting third chart displayed a perfect mandala,geometrically perfect
Hi there Do you mean to say that when you combined your chart with theirs, that there were sextiles all the way around the perimeter? Thanks. Or can you share an example synastry of the visual (doesn't have to be your own)?
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amelia28
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posted December 17, 2011 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
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I do believe in soul mates, but to me the twin flame, if we meet them, their purpose in the life is to raise us, by our union with them, to a higher vibrational level, and by that I mean to re-awaken us to the different planes of reality, and the power/inner divinity that we each possess. The difficulty with twin flame comes in getting our energies balanced. I don't believe you need to be balanced to meet a twin, but I do believe you need to have at least some regard/respect for the spiritual plane of reality and to have a consciousness that is open to give/receive love. I don't think twin flames are necessarily meant to be married, or meant to be with each other for decades (if they do meet in the physical) but I do see them as less complex relationships than soul mates. Soul mates to me implies a lot of work, or maybe not, but generally the associations have worldly, simple tones to them, they help us along our path. Twin flames don't really interfere with our path, imo, they open us up to see more of what surrounds us, they challenge each other to be whole in and of themselves. Soul mate to me could be an enemy, a family member, someone who teaches you a lesson about life, maybe something practical, but all along they are the guideposts sort of shining the way to where you will be, maybe to where you are meant to be, via the choices you make after the interactions that you have with them (NN conj ASC in synastry, to me, classic sign of a Soul Mate). Twin Flames, in my mind, show you who you are as a mirror, and also in contrast what you are not, they're not really in the business of teaching lessons (that is Soul Mate territory, for good or ill) and they're not in the business of making you struggle or causing you pain in anyway, since that is not a message of love. Twin Flames are meant to give each other love. Near Twins are human and the messages they give each other can be misinterpreted, it's part of the process, but there is never a direct intention to hurt or cause pain. If they are hurt, the other feels it as well, their human nature may kick in and may cause some hurt in return, because of the msg being misinterpreted from the other, but they feel hurt when doing that, there is never anyone who strikes the first blow. Soul mates can, and often do, hurt you intentionally; Twin Flames would never. Twin Flames consistently bring you back to your relationship with the love and light of the universe. I've met a near Twin, and that is of which I speak; I don't need it to be validated astrologically by any means, but I like the subject and I like looking for correspondences because it's intriguing. I don't really care if I meet a Twin Flame, or not; I'm very happy and content with my near-Twin experience, which I've seen to also be called a Karmic Soul Mate. Likewise, I don't really care for terms, either, but they help to categorize the experience when you're getting down into details.
This may sound funny: I'm not even sure if I believe in the 'hard science' of reincarnation (whatever explanation anyone has come up with, maybe because I don't have any past life recalls) but I am convinced of soul mates, and since my experience, I am now open to the concept of a Twin Flame. And now, with what iQ said about Twins jumping into bodies, I've been thrown yet again, but I guess the whole point is that it is a learning process. I read in some places where the Twin Flames can cause hurt, and so can the Near Twin, the difference being that Near Twins are separated and want to reunite, whereas the Twin Flame knows you cannot hold onto another and trusts in the will of the universe to bring them back together, if it sees fit. I want badly to see my Near Twin again, so that is what I am basing it on, and also why I don't call it a Twin Flame experience, also because I have a lot of love bound up for him, and I believe with the Twin, the love expands out to many others, it does not stay encased in that relationship; my overwhelming love, which I do mete out to others at times, but it stays very much w.him only. Every time he sees me he calls me 'my love' so it's much the same for him, I don't want to push him into anything or burden him with my feelings so I let him go (but I didn't cut the cords that connected when we met, he might have though), but I think of him often and am happy to love truly only him, it's been that way for 11 yrs. I've loved/been loved by others as well, romantically, but not as much as him, no where near. It's hard to match that love on a human level, you can try to express it, or embody it the best you can, but to match that feeling is really indescribable. All the men I've been with since, they have to remind me of him, or else I'm not interested. That's why I find it easy to drop partners, one for another, because if someone else comes along that reminds me more of him, that is the one that I will turn to, without any further consideration.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS WITH ME. I FEEL YOU HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS TOPIC MORE IN DEPTH THAN MOST AND WHAT YOU SAY RESONATES AND FEELS RIGHT, IT FEELS LIKE TRUTH. After reading this I would say that ex was a near twin flame and husband a karmic soulmate. I would say that my aqua friend is my twinflame bc we get eachother back on track and don't hurt eachother and the message we give to eachother is of unconditional love. I dont need to marry him or be with him as just staying in contact with eachother and talking every now and then raises our vibrational level and the love I have for him does want to expand to the world. He introduced me to other plains of reality, he definitely raises my vibrational level in spite of the fact that he struggles with depression. I can't say that hubby or ex raise my vibrational level like he does. I think twinflames has little to do with marriage and a lot do with learning about unconditional love and evolving spiritually so what you say resonates and makes sense . IP: Logged |
lucie
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posted December 17, 2011 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lucie:
[b]and the resulting geometry of the 2 in 1 chart,the resulting third chart displayed a perfect mandala,geometrically perfect
Hi there Do you mean to say that when you combined your chart with theirs, that there were sextiles all the way around the perimeter? Thanks. Or can you share an example synastry of the visual (doesn't have to be your own)?[/B][/QUOTE]hi lonake!
i meant like when i put mine together with theirs in a synastry fashion all planets connected through an ordinary aspect,not just sextile,but also the whole spectrum,like trines,inconjunct etc.so even if the other person had lonely planets in their natal,in synastry nothing was isolated.so everything fell in its place perfectly!like one lock where the key fits in perfectly!i have some examples here: http://www.lucienumbers.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=24#/d1hdmur
http://www.lucienumbers.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=24#/d1he217 note that my coloring choice is not always supporting the perfect harmonic emphasis of the whole picture IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted December 17, 2011 06:25 PM
Amelia, How sweet  (!) I agree, when I first heard the term (when doing research on my experience) I think I just automatically attached it to the soul mate concept, as a sort of off-shoot, and there is a correlation of sorts, but it is not bonded to it, so that's why I really struggled with the comprehension of it. Am v.happy you found unconditional love IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted December 17, 2011 06:27 PM
Hi lucie, so the 1st pic is more representative, right? Thanks for the visual, it's always interesting to hear opinions on hard to research topics such as this (!)IP: Logged |
lucie
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posted December 17, 2011 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Hi lucie, so the 1st pic is more representative, right? Thanks for the visual, it's always interesting to hear opinions on hard to research topics such as this (!)
your welcome !!!i think i can grasp what you are saying,your perspective on twin flame is juts like mine,once you know how indescribable it feels you will look for it in everyone!i did the same and it worked out well  ...thanks for sharing all so openly lonake IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted December 17, 2011 06:34 PM
I dont think sextiles all the way around show your twin flame.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted December 17, 2011 06:40 PM
^ I'm looking at the visual and it doesn't look like sextiles, it looks like maybe 2 grand trines juxtaposed together, something of that sort, I get it now with the mention of geometry. I've noticed this with soul mates too (well, possibly they were twin flames, I was looking at others synastry charts, hearing their experience, not of my own, but in my own I do like special geometries).Lucie, IP: Logged |
iQ
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posted December 18, 2011 02:55 PM
I liked Lonake's post a lot.IP: Logged |
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posted December 18, 2011 03:32 PM
Star of David, consisting of 6 sextiles or two grand trines interlinking with each other (in compatible elements). Also includes at least one, maybe two mystical rectangles.I have one in the synastry with Orlando Bloom.  IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted December 18, 2011 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Star of David, consisting of 6 sextiles or two grand trines interlinking with each other (in compatible elements). Also includes at least one, maybe two mystical rectangles.I have one in the synastry with Orlando Bloom.
There, your Prince Charming! IP: Logged |
iQ
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posted December 24, 2011 06:04 AM
For research, I feel Alfred Hitchcock and his wife Alma were Twin Flames.
From Wiki:
"Alfred's final short story piece, Fedora (1921), was his shortest and most enigmatic contribution. It also gave a strikingly accurate description of his future wife, Alma (whom he had not met yet) ".They were married for 54 years, till death intervened. Alfred: 13 August 1899.
Alma : 14 August 1899. I did not need to do the Synastry 13+14 = 27, 27 x 2 = 54, the number of years of their marriage. 1+8+9+9 = 27. And "ALMA" = 9 in Chaldean Numerology. Alma's death: 6th-July-1982. Total = 33.
Alfred's death: 29-April-1980. Total = 33. Only a brain dead person would consider this to be a coincidence I wish we had their exact their birth times!!! ------------------
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Ceridwen
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posted December 24, 2011 06:42 AM
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There, your Prince Charming!
Nope. I like him, but not really my type. Funnily he is only 2 days older than my middle brother. They even share the same ASC with only a few degrees difference! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted December 24, 2011 06:43 AM
IQ,they were just one day apart!
They were literally the mirrors of each other I guess.  IP: Logged |
saya_sar
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posted December 24, 2011 07:12 AM
One question!! I'm doing my own comparisons with my charts based on the WEALTH of information here. Ive never looked at the helio chart. When on astro.com is it best to do the one that says "heliocentric (tropical)" or "heliocentric (sidereal)"...I assume its the first choice but, no harm in asking. =) IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted December 24, 2011 06:27 PM
A very good psychic told me he is my twin flame; and I didn't even mention anything about him. I posted our synastry above; every planet except my Mars and his Jupiter is conjunct or in opposition. Our Ascendants are in hard aspect to each other (1 orb) which is very important. Having almost all planets conjunct means we have completed most of our work together. Funny, those two left over planets are what give us problems this time. But, we are overcoming it and will pass the test. I feel it is very rare to have:1) Ascendants in hard aspect to each other under 2 orb
2) Every planet conjunct or in opposition in synastry To me, it's simple and pretty clear. Spiritually, I already knew he is my Twin Flame as I had a spiritual awakening soon after meeting him. He changed my life and I know this is the time when many twin flames are reuniting to help raise the consciousness of the planet. Good luck to you all in your search for true unconditional romance with primarily spiritual basis. IP: Logged |
iQ
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posted December 26, 2011 04:01 AM
Good points Athene.
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IndigoDirae
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posted March 19, 2013 06:05 PM
Are you still about Ceri?I've discovered some things. (Such as his finding his correct birthtime!) I'd love to share them with you, but am not sure how to do that outside of here! IP: Logged |
alove4edd
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posted March 20, 2013 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by Mermaid:
I think Nodes in synastry of twinflames could
show something since soul's evolutionary path is linked to Nodes.I have a exact conjunction(few minutes)of my NN with NN of someone I feel is my twinsoul but I haven't found anything much written about NN/NN conjunction.In my opinion,two NN conjunct tightly should be significant as NN is considered to be a spiritual point both in Western and Vedic astrology.My NN is also conjunct his Vertex and my Vertex is conjunct his Pluto.
I don't know what aspect it would be but I have the same north node as someone I fekt instantly attracted to. Also our ASC. are oppostie signs which puts them in each others seventh house.------------------
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Got Gemini??
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posted March 20, 2013 01:08 AM
I believe in keeping it very simple. There is one person who affects you more than anyone else in your life and then there is everyone else. I call that one person, the one. Whether you call them tf, soulmate or whatever, the thing that stands out is that no one else in your life has that effect on you like that one special person.------------------
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc And yes, I'm a guy! IP: Logged |
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posted March 20, 2013 02:39 AM
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Are you still about Ceri?I've discovered some things. (Such as his finding his correct birthtime!) I'd love to share them with you, but am not sure how to do that outside of here!
I`m still here and curious as ever.
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