posted December 09, 2011 06:37 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I'm a Mars Capricorn (house 2, with Neptune) and Venus Scorpio (house 11, conjunct Pluto).

Sex is honestly not important to me in terms of having it; I don't possess a high sex drive. I very strongly don't want children (to the point that I want to be fixed and would go out and do it immediately and without hesitation if I ever found a willing physician), so I don't need sex for 'practical' reasons, either.

I could never see myself being intimate with someone that I didn't truly love--and who didn't LOVE me either. In all honesty, I can't even see myself having sex with someone even if I DID love that person and that person loved me. Sex is dangerous and there are so many risks involved. Sex is literally risking your life. You never know who has what, who's cheating, who's been with who before you, who will rape/abuse, if protection will fail, etc. Putting your fate in someone else's hands like that isn't something to be taken lightly, in my opinion. Sex is something to be feared and treated with due reverence and respect since it literally is a force of both life and death (AIDS being literal death; more metaphorically, sex is an ending in the sense of being the 'death' of virginity and it can end "life as you know it" when something goes wrong, even if you don't literally die). Just ONE mistake or accident and everything that you knew and worked for could be gone in an instant, and you could never get it back. It's not something that I can view casually.

So, that's how this Mars in Capricorn/Scorpio Venus feels about it.

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posted December 09, 2011 06:44 PM            

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Originally posted by anongrl10:
Although I see your point, I have to agree with the OP as for the calculated way Cappies think about sex and relationships. Every Cappie I related with eventually wanted it to lead to marriage. They get serious quick about things if they like you. I think this trait is special about them. Time is of essence with them. Once they have thought it through, and you're the one, they proceed methodically but speedily to seal the deal.
I've dated others who were equally invested emotionally but didn't necessarily wish to commit and hadn't planned our entire future together from the first night we slept together. It truly is a different kind of mindset that sets them apart.

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Yessssss girl!!!! That's why I made this topic!
How they go about it Is SO methodical and calculating!!

Something you think of as simple to them is much expansive and broader, it's all in some plan for them and boy do they know how to plan. They don't waste time. I thought it was interesting. my ex and current bf have similar loving styles... but the methodical planning the calculating planning is extremely evident. Sex for them it won't happen if it's casual. I mean my bf admitted when he was younger it was casually speaking until he realized what a waste of time it was, how lonely it was and unrewarding etc.

posted December 09, 2011 06:45 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I can't speak for all the guys, but I will provide my input.

That is why as much as I was a h0rny toad when I was single, I didn't exactly jump into bed with every single girl that wanted to hit the sack.

Guys with such well developed emotional ties so quickly should not sleep with women who don't want to be committed or tied down. Period.

That's why I didn't f@ck every available puss - not to be crude. I'm hardly a good looking guy, but I had a ton of dates and certainly enough love interests.

If the guy is nevertheless h0rny and needs to get his loins satiated, then be prepared for emotional pain and sufferring.

Not that I did it that way ever, but I rather plunck down a wad of cash for a professional girl than throw my heart and soul to a girl who would dump my intense emotions in a garbage can.

Meanwhile, there are tons of guys and girls who wouldn't think twice of sleeping over, doing the do and then moving on the next day, or even the same day. That's not my thing, and I suspect the two guys you have been with are not that sort either.

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I couldn't say it better....I'm a female but I feel the same way except for throwing a wad of cash down.

I more or less equate it to a dog ******* on a fire hydrant. Not the jealous type at all....But you'll know they're mine.

posted December 09, 2011 06:48 PM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Yeah, and I'm by no means commitment phobic. But it's freakin scary!

No wonder I lost interest. Think them being too full on actually causes alot of people to lose interest and get turned off.

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You are right about how serious they get and how it does put most people off.. but not this girl! I loves it. Need security if I dont have it my world is over. Especially with relationships I will never date someone unpredictable. never. ever.

posted December 09, 2011 06:58 PM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
So it's like a hidden contract type o thing

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Yes, the Cap's do not say it , but it is there. I think it is a good trait. They have really good values in life, imo.

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posted December 09, 2011 07:04 PM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
OMG yeah! I've dated 3 cappies and they were all about thinking about the future.
All of them got serious way too fast! That's why I don't understand how some people can say cappy guys are confusing or scared of commitment. I think they CRAVE it like air or something LOL. One proposed, another was like discussing the distant future, another was all planning our schedules freaking one year in advance lol!

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posted December 09, 2011 07:51 PM            

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here are so many risks involved. Sex is literally risking your life.

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posted December 09, 2011 07:56 PM            

I do become possessive after having sex with someone..hell, I become possessive over EVERYTHING..my place of work, my house even if i'm just renting a room, etc..

I've learned to hide this from the guys I become involved with. Especially guys I'm only sexually involved with..I get possessive, jeaous, etc but I pretend that i'm not, I *act* the TOTAL opposite..aloof, detachd, unaffected....while secretly pining and boiling inside.

B*tch i know you weren't lookin at my man!!!!!!

posted December 09, 2011 09:22 PM            

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Originally posted by cappy1277:
I couldn't say it better....I'm a female but I feel the same way except for throwing a wad of cash down.

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That was just illustrative, not literal lol

posted December 09, 2011 09:33 PM            

I would ditch women with whom I perceived no promise within a week. I would decline second dates for a couple.

My wife was faster than I was in declaring love. We had no qualms in discussing values, marriage, financial matters, investments, children, homes, etc. within the first week. In fact, she asked me how many children I wanted on our second date. And I had to reveal my entire sex history. She had none, so it was easy for her.

I would never wait around for feelings to be declared. I find it ridiculous to be in a relationship with a woman who does not know whether she loves me or not within a month. Do you or do you not? Maybe? Maybe means dick.

Sex once, I could deal with. Few people would ever buy an automobile without test driving. Although I never had sex with my wife until my wedding was over. I don't allow repeat test drives.

You want sex so badly? Go seek Mary Palm and her five sisters... or Joe Palm and his five brothers, whichever is applicable.

I was always of the attitude that there were more than enough women amenable to having a relationship tryout with me that I was not wanting for companionship or sex. Don't like me, then fine with me. Stand aside please.

posted December 09, 2011 10:07 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
OK I've been very fortunate that I've had relationships only with women who desired me emotionally every bit as much I desired them. All I had to do was be myself and try to be as sincere and affectionate as possible.

I would ditch women with whom I perceived no promise within a week. I would decline second dates for a couple.

My wife was faster than I was in declaring love. We had no qualms in discussing values, marriage, financial matters, investments, children, homes, etc. within the first week. In fact, she asked me how many children I wanted on our second date. And I had to reveal my entire sex history. She had none, so it was easy for her.

I would never wait around for feelings to be declared. I find it ridiculous to be in a relationship with a woman who does not know whether she loves me or not within a month. Do you or do you not? Maybe? Maybe means dick.

Sex once, I could deal with. Few people would ever buy an automobile without test driving. Although I never had sex with my wife until my wedding was over. I don't allow repeat test drives.

You want sex so badly? Go seek Mary Palm and her five sisters... or Joe Palm and his five brothers, whichever is applicable.

I was always of the attitude that there were more than enough women amenable to having a relationship tryout with me that I was not wanting for companionship or sex. Don't like me, then fine with me. Stand aside please.

The bottom line is: do you or do you not love me? I don't have time to waste on people who are not worth my time, and people who don't know their heads from their tails just tick me off and waste my time. 3-2-1.. times up. Game over. Take care and bye.

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No I understand you completely. I mean at times I have a hard time stating how I feel... just because I am not all that comfortable with my own emotions and feelings, but I KNOW what I feel. vs not knowing at all and playing a game.

posted December 09, 2011 10:15 PM            

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But I disagree with the whole do you love me now or not part. Some people take time to get there

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That's cool. Catch the next train because the 12:28 Capricorn Express just left the station.

posted December 09, 2011 10:22 PM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Isn't part of love about knowing and accepting all of the other person's flaws?

How does that work after a month. You won't know them well enough, nor will they be showing that side of them. They'll still be on their best behaviour. That is why there is usually a 3 months honeymoon period.

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Oh relationships my style will reveal everything very quickly. . No best behavior. If you can't take a person's fart, belch, snore, bad breathe etc, you shouldn't be in a relationship.

Just a sit down discussion will reveal a significant amount inside of 15 minutes. Don't like to be interviewed, then don't go out with me. Very simple.

posted December 09, 2011 10:34 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
That's cool. Catch the next train because the 12:28 Capricorn Express just left the station.

That's why all my relationships were with only aggressive, dominant and decisive women. . Aka B@tches lol. . J/k.

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I know you were joking, but still.
Im someone that takes time, it doesn't come natural to me. It has nothing to doing with aggressiveness and decisiveness. Feelings are nothing to rush. Aggressiveness in what you've described is why some people get into trouble and make irrational decisions that end up no so favorable aka kim and kris and their marriage. I do not rush how I feel, i cannot. I would be lying to that person and myself if I did. If its not there yet, its not, it comes when it's ready. Women in general take awhile to get to that stage.

posted December 09, 2011 10:41 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:

Oh relationships my style will reveal everything very quickly. . No best behavior. If you can't take a person's fart, belch, snore, bad breathe etc, you shouldn't be in a relationship.

Just a sit down discussion will reveal a significant amount inside of 15 minutes. Don't like to be interviewed, then don't go out with me. Very simple.

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posted December 09, 2011 10:42 PM            

I just attract a different crowd. That's all.

posted December 09, 2011 10:43 PM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
I know you were joking, but still.
Im someone that takes time, it doesn't come natural to me. It has nothing to doing with aggressiveness and decisiveness. Feelings are nothing to rush. Aggressiveness in what you've described is why some people get into trouble and make irrational decisions that end up no so favorable aka kim and kris and their marriage. I do not rush how I feel, i cannot. I would be lying to that person and myself if I did. If its not there yet, its not, it comes when it's ready. Women in general take awhile to get to that stage.

When I meet someone, I know they are someone I want to be with for the long-term, I just know it. I wait to see how things pan out, usually them pursuing them and than i'm sold. But I would be extremely disappointed in someone if they decided to end the relationship just because I did not "love" them at the same moment they did. *I* take a very long time to get to that stage. The mere fact that I am with the person speaks volumes though because I am someone that hates time wasting myself, especially with relationships and friendships. But just because I don't feel that emotion of love just yet, doesn't mean I don't feel something as close, you know? I think any guy I am with understands I do not waste time I tell them straight up "Are you going to waste my time? I want a relationship, long-term, if you just want to **** , stay away from me im not interested." i told my boyfriend this so he knows I am a serious person.

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Yeah I agree. I also think it's a sign of emotional maturity to voice the 'L' word later on.

Those that say I love you!!!! In like two weeks are reminiscent of like middle schoolers. You see it alot around youtube lol. The ones that 'type lyk dis' and say 'I love my boyfriend, wer gna be together 4eva'

posted December 09, 2011 10:46 PM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
It's not about farting, it's about behaviour and personality faults and quirks. These things take time to discover. And no, nobody reveals their *complete* true selves at the start. It's not human nature to do this, it only comes out in time.

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You would have intuition regarding character, would you not? Sure, sometimes mistakes in judgment are made, For example, you find yourself a habitual liar or a philanderer. However, you learn from your misjudgments quickly.

posted December 09, 2011 10:48 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:

Oh relationships my style will reveal everything very quickly. . No best behavior. If you can't take a person's fart, belch, snore, bad breathe etc, you shouldn't be in a relationship.

Just a sit down discussion will reveal a significant amount inside of 15 minutes. Don't like to be interviewed, then don't go out with me. Very simple.

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posted December 09, 2011 10:50 PM            

Its not for myself or my type. That's all.

Its perfectly honorable to take as much time as you need.

posted December 09, 2011 10:56 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
That is just fine. We are different people with different objectives and different styles. Its all honorable.

I just attract a different crowd. That's all.

As an illustration, my college girlfriends knew their majors in college as sophmores in high school. They knew their desired careers as freshmen in college. They had jobs as interns while in college, even if the internships were non-paying (they didn't need the money anyway), just to further their careers. Doesn't mean that they are any better than you or anyone else. Just different.

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Time is everything, no?

posted December 09, 2011 11:09 PM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
I think that is entirely different. Thats career, not relationships. I agree with mintgirl, although you've stated people have different opinions which is fine, its just a wee bit unrealistic to expect anyone to just pour out every single thing about themselves, the good and the ugly under one month. And that would spoil the fun now wouldn't it?

Time is everything, no?

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I'm not having expectations of you or anyone in particular, or expecting anyone to live up to those expectations. lol

Not being able to express affections quickly does not denote any form of inferiority.

Just in my case, I bond with people compatible and the women with whom I had relationships never had any problem expressing their feelings quickly, some faster than myself.