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Ceridwen
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posted December 12, 2011 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The theory behind the concept of persona chart is that, whenever the Sun transits a planet (Moon in this example) for the first time it "wakes up" this planet.
The persona chart / the birthchart for exactly that moment supposedly is like a magnifying glass for the planet in question.

Moon relates to oure emotional make up and even more to our soul (in the sense of emotional core).

Now, wouldn´t it make sense if soul-mates had interesting synastric links between their Moon Persona charts?
(of course under the premise that the theory I shortly explained is valid)


Anyway, I was checking the Moon Persona charts of my friend and her twin flame / soulmate.

Turns out his MP Psyche is EXACTLY conjunct her MP eros on 26 Capricorn.

I guess I do not need to look any further into their chart, but I did nevertheless.

his MP Eros-ASC-conjunction is conjunct her MP Amor.

his MP Venus opposes her MP Moon

his MP Saturn conjuncts her MP Spirit and MP ASC

his MP Neptune trine her MP DESC
his MP Neptune trine her MP Sun
his MP Neptune conjunct her MP Psyche

his MP Valentine conjunct her MP Neptune
his MP Valentine trine her MP Chiron and MP Aura

his MP Juno trine her MP Venus and MP Mercury
his MP Juno conjunct her MP Moon
his MP Juno trine her MP Saturn exact
his MP Moon conuunct her MP Venus and MP Mercury
his MP Moon trine her MP Moon
his MP Moon trine her MP Saturn exact

(A grand trine with his Moon-Juno and her Venus-Mercury-Moon-Saturn)

*sighs* I almost could get jealous.

EDIT:
Hmm, on second thought, maybe a moderator could move that to the asteroid forum?

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Ceridwen
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posted December 12, 2011 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another couple


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anongrl10
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posted December 12, 2011 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The theory behind the concept of persona chart is that, whenever the Sun transits a planet (Moon in this example) for the first time it "wakes up" this planet.
The persona chart / the birthchart for exactly that moment supposedly is like a magnifying glass for the planet in question.

Interesting!
So to draw sb's MP chart, it seems (correct me if I didn't get it right) you need to:
1. get their birth chart
2. notice where Sun and Moon is at birth chart
3. check ephemeris to see when their Sun transited their Moon *for the 1st time* (does it matter that they might have been too young when that occurred for the 1st time? guess not)
4. create a new "event" chart of the day and time when this transit first occurred
5. voila! MP chart is ready!

Any links?

And thanks!

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Alma Sun
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posted December 12, 2011 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alma Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think astro.com has an option for it anongrl. Go to extended chart selection, under Please select the type of chart you want: scroll down to Persona chart.

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posted December 12, 2011 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It has been a recent insight for me that these charts show some unique points in Synastry. As much as my innovation: "Saturn Shift Charts" to 0 Capricorn.

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posted December 12, 2011 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alma Sun:
I think astro.com has an option for it anongrl. Go to extended chart selection, under Please select the type of chart you want: scroll down to Persona chart.

DUH!
I was going to do it by hand!

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Ceridwen
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posted December 12, 2011 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
astro.com is a vaulable tool for these calc.

IQ,

how would you rate the importance of Moon persona charts and Saturn shift charts in relation to normal synastry?

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Ceridwen
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posted December 12, 2011 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our birthchart actually is the Sun Persona chart.

It governs our active / concious expression of our Self, and thus manifests clearly and makes identification easy.


Aspects in the Moon Persona, as it relates to the emotional/ receptive/ sometimes almost subconscious or instinctive, would need to be addressed in that light.

Ex. ASC
in the birth chart it might be indicative of the direct approach to your environment, while in the Moon persona it might be more about an "emotional approach".

so moon persona is about the inner world

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sand
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posted December 14, 2011 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ceri, what can u tell from my moon persona chart?

i have done MC persona before. that was inneresting too.

i see i have a leo stellium here. gemini moon, inneresting.. still mars in scorpio yesh!

i do have someone to compare with but it's too soon to be making compatibility charts ehehe!

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posted February 12, 2014 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyes_like_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I decided to bump this because I've suddendly become so fascinated with these persona charts now!! I really recommend them for checking synastry as well.

Im noticing so many connections its overwhelming. The first thing I noticed is how similar my venus persona chart kinda mirrors my partner's natal..all the angles are conjunct. His venus persona mirrors his draconic chart.

Im sure there's a ton I dont know about them though. For instance the sun in the persona chart is always in place of the planet your looking at. So I wonder how to interpret that planet. For example, if my venus persona sun is at 2° taurus, and venus for the venus persona is at 16° gemini, this is how venus operates in love? Where as...just a wild guess jupiter is how venus operates financially? Mars how venus operates physically/outwordly? Neptune- romantic imagination?

Venus in my venus persona conjuncts my partners NN btw even in the same house. Thats just neat, lol.

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posted February 12, 2014 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was into them too..
but they are not very popular so theres not much information.
I thought this was a new thread too :/

Did you know my Moon persona chart is the same as my one of my good friends natal charts So funny..
She was born a year after me

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Chiemi
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posted February 12, 2014 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woah, my natal chart is exactly like my friends moon persona chart except instead of a Leo moon he has a cancer moon almost exact semi sextile to mine. Everything else is the same and conjunct each other though. #Stunned

He was born 3 months before me

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posted February 15, 2014 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyes_like_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im not sure if i'll be repeating myself with this but I have a question involving persona charts. Does anyone know or have theories on how to read the planet of that persona chart?

For instance; if you're doing a moon persona chart and the sun represents the moon of your natal. What does the moon relate to in the moon persona chart? The venus in the venus persona etc.

Maybe with moon, its the feelings that aren't expressed?
Would the sun aspects be more earful than the person moon?

And what about venus? Venus can represent so many things from attraction, expressed feelings, friendship, personal tastes...so the venus in the Venus persona chart really confuses me. Moon in the venus persona might indicate the emotion while sun indicates the expression, so what about the other planets?

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posted February 15, 2014 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting in my moon birth chart Moon is in libra and conjuncts Jupiter.
and is is opp venus


and in venus in its own persona is Aries
squares neptune Uranus exact and trines mars sextiles mercury.

In all my persona charts Venus is in aries and Mars is in leo.
I relate to this a lot..
Probably why I love people with Venus in aries or mars in leo.

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posted February 20, 2014 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyes_like_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 20, 2014 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive never looked to much at Persona charts...I did a few years back and had an interesting thing happen with them, but then forgot about them! I was dating a guy we broke up, I miss him so much then I started getting the hugest crush on my boss all the sudden when before I didn't notice him....
I was looking at my bosses chart and knew I'd seen his exact chart somewhere before, it was a very unique chart sun/moon/merc/mars all pisces....eventually I realized this was the exact same chart as my ex boyfriends mars persona chart! I looked and my ex boyfriends was about 9 months older than my boss and his mars persona came out the the exact same day that my boss was born! My bosses sun chart was to the degree the exact same as my ex's mars persona chart!
My crush vanished immediately!

Today I've been checking them out with me n this new guy I just met... Nothing spectacular in his Moon persona but his Venus is interesting!!
His Venus persona makes a Star of David.....

It's between his.....
Saggy nep@16--my Jupiter trined(1 degree)
Aqua mars@13--my Psyche/Pluto trine(grand trine 2degree)
Aries venus@16--my Jupiter conjunct(1degree)
Gemini moon@13--my Psyche conjunct(1-2 degree)
Leo saturn@12---my Neptune and Jupiter trine(grand trine 1-3 degree)
Libra pluto@13--my Pluto conjunct, Jupiter opposed Neptune sextile(2 degree)--kite with adding on his Saturn or Mars

His IC is on Sirius
His NN and DC are Spica

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