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Topic: Astrological Indicators of Intelligence and good Judgement
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mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 2400 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted December 17, 2011 01:13 AM
I'm above average in intelligence. Have gotten alot of awards, and had come top of year for various subjects back in high school and middle school. Also did decently in creative subjects (art, music etc) as well. Mercury square uranus Mercury conjunct moon and desc Mercury square saturn Mercury square neptune lol -_- I have t squares involving mercury, uranus and jupiter. Am a virgo sun and mars. Libra mercury. I have asteriod athene (asteriod for intelligence?) conjunct my asc and asteriod talent conjunct my sun.
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amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 4153 From: Miami Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 17, 2011 01:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by FireWire:
And you definitely seem like someone who'd LOVE psychology. I could see you being a therapist and, or holistic healer VERY easily. It seems very natural for you!
You have no idea how much you made me smile with that comment, made my heart melt a little too. I could totally see you in psyche as well but if you feel an inclination towards finance I would think about it some more until I feel confident of my calling before going to grad school. I completely respect if you don't want to go to grad school too btw. That is a personal choice and lots of people are successful and don't go to grad school and vice versa. Drive, discipline and creativity is what is about.
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BelligerentPygmy Knowflake Posts: 1145 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 17, 2011 04:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by mintgirl123: I'm above average in intelligence. Have gotten alot of awards, and had come top of year for various subjects back in high school and middle school. Also did decently in creative subjects (art, music etc) as well. Mercury square uranus Mercury conjunct moon and desc Mercury square saturn Mercury square neptune lol -_- I have t squares involving mercury, uranus and jupiter. Am a virgo sun and mars. Libra mercury. I have asteriod athene (asteriod for intelligence?) conjunct my asc and asteriod talent conjunct my sun.
Same, and I have Pallas conjunct Mercury and the sun. Which is why I don't really buy that the sun burns up mercury and makes people imbeciles...*smirk*.
I have Mercury contraparallel Uranus, too. IP: Logged |
love being Aries Knowflake Posts: 1754 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 17, 2011 06:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy: Intelligence? Mercury-Uranus. Hard aspects between the two more than easy ones, believe it or not.Good judgment? My guess is Pluto - for being able to see through the c.rap to what's real and what isn't.
i have Pluto in 3rd house in Scorpio and it squares my Moon and Mars. So my ability to see through the situation is very sharp when m not emotionally involved or too aggressive.. because when both of these are present, my judgement stops working. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 2400 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted December 17, 2011 07:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy: Same, and I have Pallas conjunct Mercury and the sun. Which is why I don't really buy that the sun burns up mercury and makes people imbeciles...*smirk*.I have Mercury contraparallel Uranus, too.
I thought sun conjunct mercury made someone witty and a good conversationalist? I have Pallas opposing mercury and moon. Not sure if that's a good thing? I have pretty good judgment generally (if my emotions don't get the better of me lol) sun sextile pluto (1 degree) pluto in 8th house scorp IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 7206 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 17, 2011 10:04 AM
I went all the way with school with top grades, but I won't claim to have unusual intelligence. I have three Masters degrees. I'm also a Phi Beta Kappa, even though I hated school. It was all parental pressure, and I got all As through graduate school. I didn't complete a PhD only because of it's limited applicability to my career objectives, and also I didn't want to pledge myself to a lifetime of academics and/or likely poverty. I have Mercury Conjunct Mars, Mercury Sextile Neptune and Mercury Trine Pluto. Whatever that means. IP: Logged |
downtomars Knowflake Posts: 1475 From: NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 17, 2011 11:32 AM
I have:Mercury conjunct Sun Mercury conjunct Venus Mercury conjunct Jupiter Mercury square Uranus Mercury trine Neptune Mercury opp Ascendant I was in the "gifted and talented" program in elementary school, in accelerated classes in Junior high, then AP classes in high school where I won several awards for debate and speech writing, honor roll, all of that. I have two undergraduate degrees, both summa c*m laude, one masters degree (3.8 GPA - freakin' A- and B+!!!) and I am working on a second masters. I belong to a couple of honor societies (Psi Chi and Pi Gamma Mu). This on top of a couple of graduate certificates and even lots of non-credit stuff. If I have an extra hundred bucks I'll spend it on a non-credit class on underwater basket weaving, something, anything, because I love taking different classes and learning as much as I can. I am a fast reader, not quite a speed reader, and I can spot "the main idea" of things right away. Not just in literature but even things like letters, contracts, etc. I think that I am good at writing speeches and debating because my writing style is straight forward and not too-too flowery (Mercury in Leo?). Flowery language gets annoying and this is why I am not a poetry fan. I understand it and I have no problem dissecting it but, honestly, I can't stand it. I am also a great technical writer - manuals and instructions are my specialty. I have received several commendations for creating "how-to" guides at a few of my jobs. I don't really have a specific learning style. Visual, auditory, kinesthetic - they are all good and equal with me. I have been told, many times, that I look smart, or look like an expert or like I "know what I am doing". People ask me for help everywhere - on the street, in school, anywhere. Something I attribute to Pluto in the 8th conjunct Moon and the Pallas-Moon-Mars grand trine: I put things together quickly. Meaning, I can easily see patterns and draw conclusions. I link little bits of information together to get an entire story and I am often correct, I don't have to really reach. I find myself saying "Oh, that's why!" to myself a lot. It is also hard to keep a secret from me, especially since people leave so many clues and they don't even realize it. This gives me good judgement. I am quite clever, a creative problem solver ("shows ingenuity", lol). I will even use the oddest objects to fix things. I have an awesome sense of direction. Sometimes it is intuitive and sometimes I will just read a map (seems obvious, but not everyone can read a map). I am bad at giving directions on the street because of the intutive thing though. I need a few minutes to think and usually people are in a hurry so, bad...But, if someone hands me a map, I can easily tell them where to go! All of this and my Mercury is retrograde! It is also combust (Sun at 7Leo20, Mercury at 8Leo22)! I looked up Athene and it doesn't make any major aspects except for a partile sextile with Uranus, which is my chart ruler and is conjunct my MC and is stationary direct (Athene at 16Virgo20, Uranus at 16Scorpio56)... Oh, and I am a ditzy dipstick sometimes. It is harder for smart people to see the obvious because we are looking for the obsure. ETA: I think I should add that after high school I was too busy having fun to pay attention in college so I ended up dropping out after a year. I went back several years later and was able to concentrate, do well, give it my all, etc... IP: Logged |
tautomer4314 Knowflake Posts: 659 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 18, 2011 04:57 PM
I am a pretty smart guy (although I don't really like outwardly tooting my own horn like this). I'm currently studying in a PhD program for Organic Chemistry.As for my aspects that can indicate intelligence: Mercury(retrograde) in gemini in the 8th house Mercury conjunct venus Mercury conjunct sun(taurus) Mercury quincunx uranus Those are the basic ones at least. I have people tell me I should be a psychologist, as I can read people like a book and I seldom miss a trick. I forget what aspect shows that though. Some kind of minor but signifigant aspect to my moon I think. ------------------ It's All Elemental IP: Logged |
sweetbee01 Knowflake Posts: 46 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted October 20, 2014 02:45 AM
Why is it that the mercury uranus people I know don't have really lucrative jobs? They're secretaries or haven't graduated school yet? quote: Originally posted by amelia28: I am perfectly aware that intelligence is the result of genetics interacting with the environment. Genetics is the potential you are born with and the environment will either enhance that potential or hinder it.That been said I am curious about what astrological indicators you all know of that show good potential for intelligence and good judgement. I personally have tsquare involving mercury/sun/moon and Athene conjuncts sun and mercury. I have sun/mercury in virgo conjunct MC and my mercury falls in the 9th cusp. I feel these aspects have helped me along with my nice pluto aspects overcome significantly this tsquare but that tsquare definitely made my academic life a struggle during my childhood and as I have grown older it has become less and less of an issue and now at 28 years of age find myself getting straight As which was not the case in childhood, in HS my GPA was 3.0 as well as in undergrad school. Now in grad school is a 3.9. I still need to work a lot on my grammar though . Basically those squares involving mercury have been more and more manageable as I age and little by little a weakness is turning into a strength.
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astra7 Knowflake Posts: 1059 From: I live at 667 Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 20, 2014 05:05 AM
When you talk about intelligence, do you mean how the system wants you to be or is it the intelligence coming from the heavens? Because, to me, memorizing a formula or properties by heart and passing your exame to obtain a piece of paper set up by another men is not the intelligence but that's what most people tends to believe.IP: Logged |
TuxLuigi Knowflake Posts: 214 From: France Registered: May 2014
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posted October 20, 2014 07:46 AM
Just posting this in case it may interest anyone. Some people say I'm intelligent, I heavily disagree everytime. I'll share this in case anyone's curious still. http://www.noelshack.com/2014-43-1413805288-chart.png Currently going to a 2-year intensive formation for elite schools ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classe_pr%C3%A9paratoire_aux_grandes_%C3%A9coles ), and there's this other person I know the chart of, who used to have better grades than anyone else in high school, but now has grades that tend to be lower than mine (she is in the same class as I am). Her chart: http://www.noelshack.com/2014-43-1413805296-chart2.png Being in such studies doesn't mean either of us is intelligent or has good judgement, but it may still be interesting to some I guess. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 74285 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 20, 2014 07:54 AM
Merc/ Sun conjunction 6-10 degrees.------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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TuxLuigi Knowflake Posts: 214 From: France Registered: May 2014
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posted October 20, 2014 07:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by astra7: When you talk about intelligence, do you mean how the system wants you to be or is it the intelligence coming from the heavens? Because, to me, memorizing a formula or properties by heart and passing your exame to obtain a piece of paper set up by another men is not the intelligence but that's what most people tends to believe.
If you're referring to math... learning formulas is only obtaining the tools to actually do maths, which means solving complex problems with numbers and learnt formulas. That's like saying running around a stadium is not athleticism because you only need shoes. Similar thing for engineering. Formulas are only there so you get the starting material to do what you're supposed to do, which is the part that actually requires intelligence. For physics, it's also similar, in the sense that understanding and learning properties and formulas is a thing, but putting them to work to discover or prove new things is another. Intelligence is literary too. And it is also emotional. I wouldn't call someone who can solve any mathematical problem but who cannot understand philosophy somebody "intelligent". IP: Logged |
astrolady83 Knowflake Posts: 28 From: L Registered: Aug 2014
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posted October 20, 2014 10:31 AM
I have Mercury Square Saturn and Jupiter by 0 degree  Merc. Conj/Sun by 0 degree in 3rd house.IP: Logged |
Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 859 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012
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posted October 20, 2014 11:33 AM
The 9H, or Sag placements may contribute for higher learning. A positively placed PALLAS, in aspect to MERCURY, URANUS, or MOON. The air element may factor in, as well.I have MERCURY conjunct URANUS 1°, which are also parallel. They are conjunct my MC, on the 9H side. URANUS is also my chart ruler. 2H PALLAS opp Libra MOON 0°. Sag SUN = lifetime student. My 3R is exalted in the 11H (Uranian house), and my 9R is in the 9H (Sagittarian house). URANUS is exalted in Scorpio. Asteroid TALENT is quintile MERCURY. Genetically, both my parents are strong in math and science. My mother was a mainframe programmer, while my father has two bachelors, and worked a long while in the field of virology before changing careers to computers. I never had any problems in school. In fact, I loved it, and participated in the Talented and Gifted "TAG" program, studied in pre-AP and AP classes, and was an honor student with straight A's. I was accepted to study in a special college course at age 12, based on my 6th grade provisional test scores. My only "weak" subject was Athletics, lol (asthmatic childhood). I graduated magna *** laude (ugh, bitter feelings toward that Philosophy professor for ruining my perfect GPA), and on the President's list every semester. As for Greek societies, I am a member of the national Alpha Chi, and the more local Phi Eta Sigma. My IQ score is quite high, and I habitually like to surround myself with highly intellectual peers. The biggest egghead probably has an IQ around 160, or so. They are endlessly interesting, and in turn lift me up. I am adept at self-teaching, a quick learner, and very organized (2H PALLAS). Show me something, and I can probably figure it out without anyone's help or instruction. Give me a problem, and I can probably find a better way to solve it. I have good intuition, and pretty good insight. I also have strong writing skills. I don't think the MERC-URA conjunction is magical or anything, but I think it definitely imbues a certain efficiency and speed to the entire process. As such, I just get more done more swiftly. It frustrated me a bit as a child, because I would often wonder why we would spend so much time on certain lessons, and wanted to move on before everyone else. I often would read ahead, to keep myself interested. Otherwise, URANUS rules astrology, which explains my interest in the subject. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 15719 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 20, 2014 12:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by sweetbee01: Why is it that the mercury uranus people I know don't have really lucrative jobs? They're secretaries or haven't graduated school yet?
^ Check previous answer. Mercury conjunct Uranus is usually a sign of creativity and fluid intelligence IMO but with other contributing factors can also be great for crystallized intelligence in addition like BW describes above. IP: Logged |
aquascorpleo Knowflake Posts: 63 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 20, 2014 01:23 PM
I'm what you would call an honor student in the US, and I've won a few academic competitions. I've never taken a legit IQ test though! My aspects: Uranus: conj. Sun and Mercury in Aquarius sextile Pluto square Moon (I'm an Uranian) Mercury: conj. Sun and Uranus sextile Saturn square Moon I'm Sun Aquarius Moon Scorpio
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Gemini Blues Knowflake Posts: 1439 From: The future... or the past. I get them confused... Registered: May 2014
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posted October 20, 2014 07:28 PM
Hmmm...Mercury in Gemini 8th Conjunct Vertex Intercepted Focus of T square Sat sR Pic and Ura Virgo ~2° orb overall Square Pluto Vir but wider orb Gem sun, Scorp Asc I do OK  IP: Logged |
Gemini Blues Knowflake Posts: 1439 From: The future... or the past. I get them confused... Registered: May 2014
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posted October 20, 2014 07:29 PM
And then I do something like double post. Lol!IP: Logged |
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posted October 21, 2014 09:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy: Intelligence? Mercury-Uranus. Hard aspects between the two more than easy ones, believe it or not.Good judgment? My guess is Pluto - for being able to see through the c.rap to what's real and what isn't.
Yes brilliance was indicated by Uranus conj Mercury in Pisces. However, that also attributed to the insanity.
Good morality with be Jupiter positive aspects to Moon, Saturn, and Sun in the houses of 9th or 2nd.
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LovelyKitty Knowflake Posts: 617 From: ~*Cosmic Wanderer *~ Registered: Jun 2012
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posted October 22, 2014 05:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by amelia28: I am perfectly aware that intelligence is the result of genetics interacting with the environment. Genetics is the potential you are born with and the environment will either enhance that potential or hinder it.That been said I am curious about what astrological indicators you all know of that show good potential for intelligence and good judgement. I personally have tsquare involving mercury/sun/moon and Athene conjuncts sun and mercury. I have sun/mercury in virgo conjunct MC and my mercury falls in the 9th cusp. I feel these aspects have helped me along with my nice pluto aspects overcome significantly this tsquare but that tsquare definitely made my academic life a struggle during my childhood and as I have grown older it has become less and less of an issue and now at 28 years of age find myself getting straight As which was not the case in childhood, in HS my GPA was 3.0 as well as in undergrad school. Now in grad school is a 3.9. I still need to work a lot on my grammar though . Basically those squares involving mercury have been more and more manageable as I age and little by little a weakness is turning into a strength.
Hi, Amelia28 Do you have /had Bf who born on late 1980? I just browsed the thread reply randomly and I think I saw my identical astrology twin . Thanks P.S. Sorry for out of the topics IP: Logged |
Leorpio Knowflake Posts: 695 From: Cypress Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 22, 2014 06:00 AM
You really have to define what you mean by "intelligence" and "brilliance" because there are different types of intelligence and different types of brilliance. To me, a Pisces mercury conjunct Neptune that is amazing at music is JUST as brilliant as an Aquarius mercury trine uranus. There is emotional intelligence, bodily Iintelligence, metaphysical intelligence, etc. To say simply that Uranus, Aquarius, and mercury is what represents such a blanket term as "intelligence" is foolhardy at best and completely and utterly dishonest at worst.Is music not an indicator of intelligence? Is art not? Is being able to navigate the emotional spectrum of yourself and others not intelligence? Doesn't Scorpio have its own kind of intelligence? Sagittarius? Taurus? A finely placed Jupiter can bring about as much intelligence as a finely placed mercury, simply in a higher form. I really don't understand the absolute obsession with mercury and to a lesser extent Uranus on this forum at all...Pluto and Saturn can represent different types of brilliance as well. Even Venus can give one intelligence, especially socially. Hell, I'd say that for good judgment is if people know how to read others WITHOUT suspicion or judgment and to act accordingly for the benefit of all involved. "Good judgment" is even more subjective and complicated than intelligence so don't even get me started on it. Tl;Dr: there is more than one kind of brilliance and intelligence, many of which are just as valuable if not more so than "book smarts" and there are different "good judgments" for different people. IP: Logged |
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posted October 22, 2014 08:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Leorpio: You really have to define what you mean by "intelligence" and "brilliance" because there are different types of intelligence and different types of brilliance. To me, a Pisces mercury conjunct Neptune that is amazing at music is JUST as brilliant as an Aquarius mercury trine uranus. There is emotional intelligence, bodily Iintelligence, metaphysical intelligence, etc. To say simply that Uranus, Aquarius, and mercury is what represents such a blanket term as "intelligence" is foolhardy at best and completely and utterly dishonest at worst.Is music not an indicator of intelligence? Is art not? Is being able to navigate the emotional spectrum of yourself and others not intelligence? Doesn't Scorpio have its own kind of intelligence? Sagittarius? Taurus? A finely placed Jupiter can bring about as much intelligence as a finely placed mercury, simply in a higher form. I really don't understand the absolute obsession with mercury and to a lesser extent Uranus on this forum at all...Pluto and Saturn can represent different types of brilliance as well. Even Venus can give one intelligence, especially socially. Hell, I'd say that for good judgment is if people know how to read others WITHOUT suspicion or judgment and to act accordingly for the benefit of all involved. "Good judgment" is even more subjective and complicated than intelligence so don't even get me started on it. Tl;Dr: there is more than one kind of brilliance and intelligence, many of which are just as valuable if not more so than "book smarts" and there are different "good judgments" for different people.
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 15719 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 22, 2014 09:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by LovelyKitty: Hi, Amelia28 Do you have /had Bf who born on late 1980? I just browsed the thread reply randomly and I think I saw my identical astrology twin .Thanks P.S. Sorry for out of the topics
Yes I do. Nov 17. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 15719 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 22, 2014 09:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by Leorpio: You really have to define what you mean by "intelligence" and "brilliance" because there are different types of intelligence and different types of brilliance. To me, a Pisces mercury conjunct Neptune that is amazing at music is JUST as brilliant as an Aquarius mercury trine uranus. There is emotional intelligence, bodily Iintelligence, metaphysical intelligence, etc. To say simply that Uranus, Aquarius, and mercury is what represents such a blanket term as "intelligence" is foolhardy at best and completely and utterly dishonest at worst.Is music not an indicator of intelligence? Is art not? Is being able to navigate the emotional spectrum of yourself and others not intelligence? Doesn't Scorpio have its own kind of intelligence? Sagittarius? Taurus? A finely placed Jupiter can bring about as much intelligence as a finely placed mercury, simply in a higher form. I really don't understand the absolute obsession with mercury and to a lesser extent Uranus on this forum at all...Pluto and Saturn can represent different types of brilliance as well. Even Venus can give one intelligence, especially socially. Hell, I'd say that for good judgment is if people know how to read others WITHOUT suspicion or judgment and to act accordingly for the benefit of all involved. "Good judgment" is even more subjective and complicated than intelligence so don't even get me started on it. Tl;Dr: there is more than one kind of brilliance and intelligence, many of which are just as valuable if not more so than "book smarts" and there are different "good judgments" for different people.
I am perfectly aware of this. I am in the field of psychology and we do cover this and yes good judgement does not automatically equal intelligence but there is a correlation between the two. You can reply to this post and say for this type of intelligence I feel so and so aspects contribute to it and for this so and so etc.... Its an open thread exploratory in nature. My favorite type of intelligence is fluid intelligence or creativity/resourcefulness. IP: Logged | |