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Topic: Your experience with Obsession Aspects
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Doux Rêve
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posted December 19, 2011 09:17 PM
  
Yes, makes sense, thank you for clarifying.You will probably attract Plutonian types, though, if you repress that part of you. IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy
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posted December 19, 2011 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Venus square Pluto here, and I'd say, most of the time I'm the one totally obsessed.  Only one time can I say it was the guy who was obsessed.I do get very attracted to Pluto men. It's a total turn-on for me. Also started to notice lately that I do either attract people, or there's something about me that puts people off. Never really thought I was that intese, but after thinking back, maybe I do project more than I realize.
Honestly? It's probably not you. From both a witness standpoint and actually being on the receiving end, I've noticed that Plutonian people tend to get projected ONTO alot, as opposed to being the ones who do the projecting. And usually we're projected onto in a negative way - we get a bunch a crap dumped/blamed on us, whether we deserve it or not. It used to bother me but at this point I've made my peace with it and just expect people to dump their issues on me rather than have the courage and self-awareness to handle it on their own. But yeah - ideally I'd prefer to be with someone with something in Scorpio or at least a busy/prominent Pluto. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted December 19, 2011 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
It used to bother me but at this point I've made my peace with it and just expect people to dump their issues on me rather than have the courage and self-awareness to handle it on their own.But yeah - ideally I'd prefer to be with someone with something in Scorpio or at least a busy/prominent Pluto.
^ This. IP: Logged |
scrappydog
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posted December 19, 2011 10:46 PM
I agree 100% with Doux that the person who is "most obsessed" in a relationship is the person who is most plutonian natally. With my experience if venus,mars,ect. has major pluto aspects in their own chart they will be more obsessive and vice versa.
I had a relationship where his pluto conj my venus, squared my mars, and trined my moon. My pluto made no aspect to his planets at all. I was waay more obsessed than he was because I was plutonian naturally and he was not.IP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360
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posted December 19, 2011 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
Honestly? It's probably not you. From both a witness standpoint and actually being on the receiving end, I've noticed that Plutonian people tend to get projected ONTO alot, as opposed to being the ones who do the projecting. And usually we're projected onto in a negative way - we get a bunch a crap dumped/blamed on us, whether we deserve it or not. It used to bother me but at this point I've made my peace with it and just expect people to dump their issues on me rather than have the courage and self-awareness to handle it on their own. But yeah - ideally I'd prefer to be with someone with something in Scorpio or at least a busy/prominent Pluto.
Hey, now that's a way I never looked at it before. Kind of explains a lot. I chalked all that kind of stuff up to having Mars in the 12th. Funny that even though I like Pluto guys, I'm not into Scorpios AT ALL! I've had a few show interest in me, but I'm totally repelled by Scorpio. It's more guys with heavy Pluto in their natals that I like.
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BelligerentPygmy
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posted December 19, 2011 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Hey, now that's a way I never looked at it before. Kind of explains a lot. I chalked all that kind of stuff up to having Mars in the 12th.Funny that even though I like Pluto guys, I'm not into Scorpios AT ALL! I've had a few show interest in me, but I'm totally repelled by Scorpio. It's more guys with heavy Pluto in their natals that I like.
The energy is the same thing basically though so wtf? lol IP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360
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posted December 19, 2011 11:38 PM
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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
The energy is the same thing basically though so wtf? lol
 Yeah! I know! Only answer I have is Taurus rising. The Scorpio/Taurus opposition doesn't seem to click for me. Or at least very, very rarely. IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy
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posted December 20, 2011 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Yeah! I know! Only answer I have is Taurus rising. The Scorpio/Taurus opposition doesn't seem to click for me. Or at least very, very rarely.
Ahhh - makes sense, it does. *nods* IP: Logged |
Taineberry
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posted December 20, 2011 12:55 AM
Don't forget to look at quindecile aspects too.IP: Logged |
sand
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posted December 20, 2011 01:41 AM
i think my chart is pretty obsessive. pluto in scorpio on ac opp venus in taurus conjunct dc. i am venus and pluto dominant too. mars comes in third. although i think they have to whack me on the head with a stick before i notice. but once they get through it starts.. IP: Logged |
maira
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posted December 20, 2011 07:48 AM
Great replies everyone!
I started thinking about my relationship with ex husband - sometimes the person who is more Plutonian can hide the obsession better.
Agree with the projecting bit, in my case it could also be my personal planets in the 7th and the fact that they are trine Neptune. In the relationship with ex husband, I got panic attacks (he was really insecure and panicky, but hid it behind a big wall - Scorpio asc). When we divorced, the attacks stopped. Somewhat off topic, I think that the problems lessen when the Plutonian accepts the dark side. I'm not talking about acting it out necessarily, but about observing it and embracing it. And I find that the toughest lesson for a Plutonian is learning to embrace his or her vulnerability - it is only at that point that he becomes invulnerable IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted December 20, 2011 08:51 AM
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Betty Boop
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posted December 20, 2011 05:41 PM
Regardes - I was going to mention your Nodes some days ago when I clicked on your chart. When I saw that you have Aries NN/Libra SN - the first thing I thought was "Well that explains it!".
I know a few people (three of them are Libra Suns) who were born in '87 & have an Aries NN. Basically - this means you are not just Libran... You are Libran on steroids!! lol This can happen when you have the SN in the same sign as your Sun sign. It puts so much emphasis on this point.. and it's more difficult to move towards the NN point.. The SN feels all the more comfortable and easy. From my own personal experience with the NN - I think it is sooooooooooooo extremely important. It can make or break your life. It can mean happiness or pain. People put so much emphasis on the planets and the rest of the chart - but the NN/SN axis is very significant! It's almost like the playground where everything else happens.
The good thing about it is -- The NN is always something you are *open* to.. It's always something that you will find a path towards.. There will be many opportunities in your life for you to learn to be more Aries-like (more confident & assertive and less concerned about what others think of you) . It's true that it is not *easy* for anyone to incorporate their North Node traits (Mine is Taurus btw).. It does not come 'naturally'... BUT... it's not impossible either. It's something you are *able* to do. It's a test you are *able* to pass and it's a test that (at least in my experience) - life/fate & experiences you have - will help you - pass. Most people I know in their 40s/50s (sometimes 60s) - are a lot more like their NN sign (even when they have no planets in that sign). It's very interesting.
Something will always happen - whether earlier or later in life to give you the ultimate push towards your NN. There will always be an extended hand that says "come this way" (whether it is coming from an actual person or an opportunity of some sort) - but it's up to you whether you take the plunge and go for it.
Your mind will tell you not to go for it! (because whatever this opportunity is - it is not Libra-ish.. and not something that makes you feel comfortable).
Maybe it's a bit like the trip you had planned.. Your mind might say "This isn't rational or logical and maybe I just shouldn't"... but your gut feeling will be "I need to do this"
If you DO go for it (whatever it is - it needn't be this particular trip) - it will bring a lot of happiness and positivity in your life. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted December 20, 2011 05:50 PM
Also - you need to be around people with fire prominent!!
Sagittarius is probably the easiest for you but I wouldn't dismiss Aries&Leo. These people can *help* you become more assertive - even if at first they seem annoying.This is one of the reasons I did not at all like your therapist's reaction when you told her about your trip.
Her reaction is one of reason (air) and caution (earth).
But this isn't what you need. A fiery friend would tell you to GO for it!!!
Hell - if they were a Sag they'd be so excited - they'd buy a ticket and go *with* you!
Fire (on the positive side of the element) is inspirational. You need more of that vibrancy/energy and inspiration in your life. You need to have faith in yourself and *listen* to those people who also have faith IN you.. not the critical types. I would stir clear of people who dampen your enthusiasm because that is the *opposite* of everything fire stands for. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted December 20, 2011 05:50 PM
Moon/Venus sq Pluto and this is how it is,
When I fall in love, it feels like being put under a spell. Literally. I'm encased in this place where nothing negative is allowed to penetrate and I want the one I fall in love with to enter that space, they come to me, I don't come to them, I want them to be under MY spell. I want them to be hypnotized. I make it so that nothing is a concern for them, every problem they had is now a thing of the past. BUT when someone falls for me, and I don't feel the same, I see that they look at me that way, they think that they can enter into my protected space and it will be like that for them, and THAT causes them to feel an obsession with me. It's valid for me when I fall in love, but when I don't my Moon/Venus/Pluto attracts people who will pick up on that aspect in my chart and THEY then act it out. Usually they already have Scorpio ASC/DSC, or Pluto touching personal planets, personal placements in H8, so it's not a far stretch for them to get into that thinking.IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted December 20, 2011 05:57 PM
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tautomer4314
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posted December 20, 2011 06:07 PM
I have moon conjunct pluto in scorpio in the first house. Needless the say I can obsess over things pretty bad if I emotionally lock on it. I have a TON of self-control so it's only ever gotten out of hand a few times in the past. Those times though were dangerously bad.------------------
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maira
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posted December 20, 2011 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Most people I know in their 40s/50s (sometimes 60s) - are a lot more like their NN sign (even when they have no planets in that sign). It's very interesting.
Something will always happen - whether earlier or later in life to give you the ultimate push towards your NN. There will always be an extended hand that says "come this way" (whether it is coming from an actual person or an opportunity of some sort) - but it's up to you whether you take the plunge and go for it.
I'm sorry for derailing the thread, but this has been on my mind for some time now. BB, do you think that the push towards the NN will happen no matter what? I share your opinion on its importance and I've recently realized how stuck I am in SN patterns that are making me unhappy. It's just that the NN seems very hard to "do" and there are no prospected opportunities in the near future (my NN is in 10th).
Thank you for sharing and again, I apologize for the off topic.
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Lonake
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posted December 20, 2011 06:13 PM
^ Do you attract people to you who activate your NN?IP: Logged |
maira
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posted December 20, 2011 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ Do you attract people to you who activate your NN?
I mostly attract SN peeps. For some reason, they stick to me like glue.
It seems like the NN people tend to fade away, and not because I'm not trying (had a huge crush on a Leo Venus some time ago).
My North Node is square Moon (ruler of the MC) and sextile Saturn. Other than that it's unaspected and I don't have any other Leo placements. IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted December 20, 2011 11:01 PM
i also believe it is all Pluto when it comes to obesssions. i have scorpio asc. (10 degree), sun c. pluto (1 degree), and mars c. pluto (5 degrees) natally, so i do tend to be quite obsessive about things and people. i met a man several months ago who i had venus c. pluto with both ways (at 2 degrees), and it has turned into obsession from both ends. he has pluto aspected by almost every planet in some way and has pluto in the 1st house. so, it is impossible to determine who is more obsessed because we just both are. it's like magnets being pulled together constantly and being away from the person makes you feel quite lost and emptyIP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360
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posted December 20, 2011 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
The good thing about it is -- The NN is always something you are *open* to.. It's always something that you will find a path towards.. There will be many opportunities in your life for you to learn to be more Aries-like (more confident & assertive and less concerned about what others think of you) . It's true that it is not *easy* for anyone to incorporate their North Node traits (Mine is Taurus btw).. It does not come 'naturally'... BUT... it's not impossible either. It's something you are *able* to do. It's a test you are *able* to pass and it's a test that (at least in my experience) - life/fate & experiences you have - will help you - pass. Most people I know in their 40s/50s (sometimes 60s) - are a lot more like their NN sign (even when they have no planets in that sign). It's very interesting.
Something will always happen - whether earlier or later in life to give you the ultimate push towards your NN. There will always be an extended hand that says "come this way" (whether it is coming from an actual person or an opportunity of some sort) - but it's up to you whether you take the plunge and go for it.
Oh my gosh... Betty Boop, that whole post was AH-MAZING!! Yes! Wow, you really articulated what I've been struggling with, trying to finally incorporate my own NN in Cancer. Also hate to hijack the thread here, but thanks so much for that. I don't really attract too many people who help me towards my NN, but with Pluto sitting here for a couple of years on my SN, it has "pulled up" all sorts of NN issues. Things that I'm finally at least putting into my head, and becoming conscious of. Thanks again. GREAT post!
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Starry~*
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posted December 21, 2011 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by appleberry:
From personal experience, either feeling obsessed with another person or noticing they seem obsessed with you... What aspects in synastry did you see that you believed was the cause of this obsession? Or something in your chart or their chart that made either person, respectively, an obsessive person with regards to other people or relationships?
My bf's Pluto very tightly conjuncts my ascendant in scorpio. I heard that is a very obsessive aspect, especially on pluto person's part, to the point where pluto will try to control and manipulate. Is he obsessive with me? Don't think he'll show it even if he is. He's a scorpio  IP: Logged |
sand
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posted December 22, 2011 02:23 AM
^i have that with a lot of people my age too. must be why i don't date pluto in scorps much. IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted December 22, 2011 02:34 AM
Pluto. I have natal mars conjunct pluto in the first house. I guess to many ppl I am very intense despite my moon in aquarius and venus in flirtous gemini. I'm always kinda obsessed with my love interest til I fall out of love. They are always guys who have natal venus conjunct pluto. So I guess pluto/obsessive ppl attracts the same ppl to themselves? Its a pattern I observe. Maybe someone knowledgable on the forum can explain better. IP: Logged |
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