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Topic: Interpreting Eminem's natal chart
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Starry~*
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From: New York, USA
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posted December 26, 2011 01:09 PM
  
Hi all, I'm currently trying to learn more about astrology and how to interpret natal charts. I was listening to Eminem recently and listening to some of the stuff he talks about it was apparent he had some personak hardships in his life.I was just wondering what is it about his natal that makes him so prone to drama? (well besides the fact that he's a public figure and goes around creating it with other celebrities) Like for example, what in his natal chart can show his crazy love life with his then wife Kim (they divorced twice and in his songs he raps about her). It's apparent they have a huge love hate relationship. I believe she is a Capricorn..? Eminem's tob is unknown. **EDIT** I uploaded his birthchart with 12pm as TOB a few posts below.
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Chironrising
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From: Chicago, IL, USA
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posted December 26, 2011 02:52 PM
Sun in libra conj uranus I believe...more than anything...and t.i. is a rapper with a libra sun conjunct uranus and saturn....if not conjunct aspecting closr if I remember correctly.IP: Logged |
Chironrising
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posted December 26, 2011 02:57 PM
I believe he is a gem ascendant. That pluto in the fifth house is sounding right....to me...with sun in the fifth...hes like a bobdylan lyrical factory power house...dylan had it inthe eighg but ruler of the fifth was there....saturn is serious conjunct ascendant....for him also makes sense....and hi achieved success late in life....so sun in the first livra doesnt bake well.IP: Logged |
Chironrising
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posted December 26, 2011 03:01 PM
Jupiter in capricorn in eighth gives him soul...gives him flow.......and he shared his early life in a group....proof...d12 abd psychic bonds. Saturn in gem shows his failure in school good aspects push him to make friends in art....learning dis an obstacle inside him...low self esteem overcame venuse sextile jupiter a beattiful chart I must say.IP: Logged |
Starry~*
Knowflake Posts: 135
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posted December 27, 2011 02:11 PM
Wow thanks! you're the only one who can comment on it haha.What exactly does it mean for a person when they have sun conj uranus in libra? is it bad? IP: Logged |
lindisfarne
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From: she doesn't know that i left my urge in the icebox
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posted December 27, 2011 03:34 PM
He has mother issues too... That's probably the biggest hardship for him. If I remember he talks a lot about that in the beginning of his music career. Also.. the image isn't loading for some reason.. can you post a link instead? I'm using Safari, maybe thats the reason I don't know. Is a it a broken link you posted? IP: Logged |
Starry~*
Knowflake Posts: 135
From: New York, USA
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 27, 2011 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
He has mother issues too... That's probably the biggest hardship for him. If I remember he talks a lot about that in the beginning of his music career. Also.. the image isn't loading for some reason.. can you post a link instead? I'm using Safari, maybe thats the reason I don't know. Is a it a broken link you posted?
I'll re-post once I get home - At work right now :P But his DOB is unknown so I just put it down as 12pm.
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Starry~*
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posted December 27, 2011 04:25 PM
You are right with the mother issues. It seems he has a lot of issues with female figures in his life. What in a natal chart can suggest that? An afflicted moon? IP: Logged |
Chironrising
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posted December 27, 2011 04:35 PM
I wouldnt say he has mother issues..he has moon square mercury and sesqisquare pluto...poverty stricken ove.bearing mother...pretty common during this great depression.IP: Logged |
Starry~*
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posted December 27, 2011 08:19 PM
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Betty Boop
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From: Betty Boop Land
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posted December 27, 2011 08:22 PM
I looked up his chart previously but what confused me is that different places had different birth years for him.
I'm not so sure that it is '72.IP: Logged |
Chironrising
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posted December 27, 2011 08:22 PM
Yeah, doesn't seem like he had mother issues as much as parental issues in general...saturn(father) and moon(mother) are both fairly well aspected with very few tensions...what I do notice is jupiter and pluto being in hard aspect, and jupiter being pummeled...I guess this is eminem's high level of integrity, he never gave up rapping because he always knew he was a rapper...or an artist, or lyrisist...we can see studying his life that at every corner until around 35 he had to suffer great tragedies that begged him to change, but he didn't, he kept his integrity in tact...his honesty about himself...and this must have come from an uncle or distant father figure...as jupiter rules uncles and father figures that are not the father. IP: Logged |
Starry~*
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posted December 27, 2011 08:23 PM
Is his venus squaring saturn? If so is that why he has such problems with his love relationship?IP: Logged |
Chironrising
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posted December 27, 2011 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by Starry~*:
Is his venus squaring saturn? If so is that why he has such problems with his love relationship?
That's for sure...that usually comes from the mother or father not agreeing with the types the son is involved with... IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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From: Betty Boop Land
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posted December 27, 2011 08:24 PM
hmmm That's strange.. When I look it up now it seems to be '72 everywhere.
But around a couple of years ago.. when I looked up "eminem born" - there were websites that had his birth year down as '73 and '74 - as well as - '72. IP: Logged |
Starry~*
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posted December 27, 2011 08:27 PM
I think in his song "Cleaning Out my Closet" he said '73 as when he was a "baby" but perhaps his birth year was 72?? and his father left his mother in '73 when he was just a baby of a couple of months?IP: Logged |
Starry~*
Knowflake Posts: 135
From: New York, USA
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 27, 2011 08:32 PM
This is Kim Mathers' Birthchart. She is a Cap sun!  This is their synastry together..though both TOB is unknown so it's both at 12pm. Eminem is on the inside, Kim on the outside.  What do you guys think of their synastry? I just see a big red line right smack across the chart with Kim's Moon + Mars being opposed by his saturn. Yikes!!! 
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Betty Boop
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From: Betty Boop Land
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posted December 27, 2011 08:35 PM
Starry - I'm inclined to go with '72 since that's the official date everywhere... but there is something about the chart that just doesn't fit his life story and his energy.
He had so many problems in his childhood.. He had (has?) a bad relationship with his mother.
In the '72 chart his Sun and Moon are trine in air... The friends I have with Sun/Moon trines come from really peaceful families. (but I know this is a generalization at the end of the day!)The '73 birthday would give him a Cancer Moon possibly conjunct Saturn.. and his Sun/Moon would be in squared signs (Libra-Cancer). This sounds more accurate purely in terms of his life story.
I'm not actually sure what to think. IP: Logged |
Starry~*
Knowflake Posts: 135
From: New York, USA
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 27, 2011 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Starry - I'm inclined to go with '72 since that's the official date everywhere... but there is something about the chart that just doesn't fit his life story and his energy.
He had so many problems in his childhood.. He had (has?) a bad relationship with his mother.
In the '72 chart his Sun and Moon are trine in air... The friends I have with Sun/Moon trines come from really peaceful families. (but I know this is a generalization at the end of the day!)The '73 birthday would give him a Cancer Moon possibly conjunct Saturn.. and his Sun/Moon would be in squared signs (Libra-Cancer). This sounds more accurate purely in terms of his life story.
I'm not actually sure what to think.
Ah ya, that would be a better interpretation and explanation but for now I guess we'll have to go with what the public info says! haha IP: Logged |
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