posted January 07, 2012 09:45 AM              

If someone intends to murder but ultimately doesn't, what does it matter?

posted January 07, 2012 10:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Ok now this thread is getting way preachy LOL. Too much emphasis on "intent" here. Action is what really matters. Remember what the road to hell is paved with?

If someone intends to murder but ultimately doesn't, what does it matter?

Whereas you will face retribution for your negligence if you commit unintentional vehicular manslaughter.

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Lol...I'm not sure if I follow.

Talking about actions relative to intent and karmic consequences is...a bit less concrete. I might even say it is more abstract, so to speak. One could say we don't know 'for sure' how these things will play out. The idea is provocative, at the very least.

Talking about intent of one's actions and social and, or legal consequences is a horse of a different color, no? There are legislative, judicial, legal...etc, bodies in place that supposedly 'govern' human behavior and one can ('most' of the time) get a sense of how these bodies will respond to transgressions to 'social codes.'

posted January 07, 2012 10:38 AM              

The one on my mind involves a small glass rod, a hammer, a weiner, and a third party but it's unsuitable to spell out on this board.

posted January 07, 2012 10:47 AM            

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If he is insulting you sexually now after you aren't together, probably doesn't want you to move on. So, if they shatter your confidence, you'll stay mourning over the decay of the relationship or angry with them.

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Exactly.

posted January 07, 2012 11:33 AM              

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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
[B]These people are crazy. He needs to be taught a lesson. It's a dish served best cold. Remember that

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posted January 07, 2012 12:53 PM            

Scorpio sun, moon, mercury,venus, jupiter here. I'd say the best thing to do for you is to walk away and leave him, act like he doesn't exist. However if what you want is to get back him or at the very least annoy him, yea that wouldn't do it. He would see you're walking away under self flattering light eg. you're hurt and he has power over you, etc. The most effective way to hurt a scorpio is to play with their insecurities. Date someone that HE knows better than him and flaunt it.

posted January 07, 2012 02:56 PM            

Well, after his last message where he was congratulating me on a recently "freshened up" body part, I decided I would send him a s**tload of pointless messages [and a good one where I accused him of being cowardish for not being enough of a man to face me] just to annoy me and provoke a reaction. Then, I got bored and stopped.
I knew he couldn't handle not having the last word though.

Anyway, long story short, he truly believes that by ignoring me, he is driving me away from his "horrible, manipulative self" and it's all an act of kindness.
My last and final reply was about how seriously and deeply unfulling he had been on an emotional and sexual level [which is true], that he needs more practice if he intends to keep it this way or he'll keep making a fool of himself and that he will soon be a lonely, limp dicked psycho with noone by his side.
Judging from his reply after that, I did hurt his ego ..He also told me he doesn't need my advice. My job is done..

posted January 07, 2012 03:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Choc:
After several weeks of ignoring me because he feels super guilty for mistreating me in the past, my super duper immature Sco ex decided a good technique to turn me off of him was to resort to sex-related insults [after I kiiinda annoyed the crap outta him].
Unfortunately for him, I can see right through his motives, despite the fact he loves playing mystery man. So, before I quit his effing a$$ for good, and although I know he will try to sting me even worse after that, I wanna come up with the a$$holiest response ever or at least, I wanna have him owned.
My Pluto in the 1st hasn't let me find peace so far. He treated me in a truly crappy way [mind games galore] in the past and even though I was still willing to smooth things out with him and let go [Libra Asc] he effed it up again.

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Don't entertain his ignorance. A mad Scorpio (and I know because I have a Scorpio Mars and a Scorpio Decanate on my Cancer Ascendant) will want to bring their victims down to the lowest pits of life. If you simply ignore him, don't show signs of defeat and cut off all contact with him (i.e. changing your number, moving) he will be defeated in that he has failed in getting to you and bringing you down!

I'm so grateful that I never let anyone bring out the Scorpio Mars in me, because it's a dangerous thing when you have someone with a heavy influence in Scorpio (Rising, Moon, Mercury, Venus or Mars) out to get you! That's a very bad thing, because that sign in very vengeful by nature!

I say get away... get far away from him while you can!!!

posted January 07, 2012 03:50 PM              

I find it difficult to follow your story there but if it comes to an active form of revenge, sleeping with one of his friends or love interests should do. You know, Scorps and sex. And if he takes revenge, do it again.

It's hurtful yet not illegal (unless you go for his brother I guess lol)

posted January 07, 2012 03:53 PM            

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How do you get back on a Scorpio..

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edit...nvm, i misread the title....

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted January 07, 2012 04:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
I misread it too.

I take it all the stuff about revenge back, OP! Thought the title said getting back AT a Scorpio. 'Twas late. Have no idea how to get on one.

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at first i thought the title meant to turn the scorpio back on to the idea of a relationship with so and so person after a reeeeeaaaaallllllyyyyy bad, heated arguement or fight....but i think its more of what you thought it was

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted January 07, 2012 04:44 PM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:
I was thinking earlier, about how my post was saying "don't ignore the person because you want to get back at them--that is bad karma just as well...etc, because of your intentions."

Then I realized the OP is actually asking how to get back at them and be vengeful against this person. I suppose it really isn't my place to talk about karma...etc, when this is how they WANT to proceed.

As far as the Scorpio sting, meh. You'll survive. IMO, the Scorpio's who can REALLY hurt/devastate/harm, they actually don't. The one's that have the gall to try aren't nearly as potent from what I've seen. Doesn't mean that what they do won't hurt, relative to your person. But, in the large scheme of things, it isn't much. I've heard some others talk about 'what they would do' and it is NOT nice!

Then again, I have a significant amount of Scorpio and Plutonic energy in my chart as well. Often, I will walk away from conflict, especially when I know how much harm I can cause. But, it isn't worth it to me or the person to see them hurt, as I am too nurturing and caring to do that to a soul.

As stated before, I really think this person just doesn't want you to move on. They know they can't have you, so they might be trying to sabotage your confidence so that you can't move on to someone who will treat you better and with respect. It is so desperate it bothers me. Conceptually, I love water signs (esp. Cancer suns), but the only people I've known who have done this to me or other people, have been water signs.

Again I would advise you, like everyone else, to just walk away if you are unhappy. Be done with it, but do explore the feelings to the full extent as part of your own healing and recovery.

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posted January 07, 2012 04:55 PM            

or Leave Him Alone Forever.

If I were you and I truly hated him, I would do this.
Go back to him. Compliment him.. Tell him how wonderful he is. Whatever is his button, push it. Make him fall in love with you all over again. Tell him you hurt him because you were too stupid with your pride to admit how sorry you were. Make up a dumb excuse like that that works! Then rip his heart out. (not literally) Wait until he feels stable and safe. Move back in with him because you "love him so much" then when he goes to work one night, move out. ....

Sun libra
moon sagittarius
mercury libra
venus libra
mars scorpio
I'm also a Gemini Ascendant so maybe this would be easier for me. I'm not sure. If you know the entire time that this is what you want, then it should be pretty easy to follow through with.

posted January 07, 2012 05:47 PM            

1] I only wanted to get back at him
[I used the wrong phrasal verb, my bad]

2]I went through emotional hell because of his mind games.

3]I was told multiple times to just ignore him and move on but something inside me was asking for some kind of explanation for his erratic behavior so far. I just couln't let it go.

posted January 07, 2012 10:58 PM            

hop on top, and he'll do the rest....
(although more than likely he'll want to dominate you)

posted January 07, 2012 11:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Choc:
I would like to point out that

1] I only wanted to get back at him
[I used the wrong phrasal verb, my bad]

2]I went through emotional hell because of his mind games.

3]I was told multiple times to just ignore him and move on but something inside me was asking for some kind of explanation for his erratic behavior so far. I just couln't let it go.

Two threads about this particular fella http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/210080.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/210405.html

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Oh.... Honestly I didn't look at the second link you posted just the first and I must say. I've come to realize that you are worth a better guy. Within the first two sentences you basically stated that he is not worth your time or dedication. It was YOUR mistake to invest in him knowing he is 1, damaged goods 2, damaging your goods. lol
I think he's already messed up enough. If YOU need to talk about your pain, talk to a therapist or a social worker. Sometimes we need to look within ourselves and realize that he's this person, but I'm not. I'm a better person, and I will make better decisions. That better person is you, let him live his own hurting other life. Hurting this messed up guy will not help you move on and it wont make the situation any better. Put on some make up and go out with someone new! Fresh. Forget he ever happened.

posted January 08, 2012 12:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Either go back to him because you obviously still care enough about this person to torture him,

or Leave Him Alone Forever.

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Agree.