posted January 10, 2012 09:41 AM            

I recently stumbled on the idea to cross check my persona charts with my twin flame's chart and our composite as well the dracos.

I looked at Moon, Saturn, Chiron, Pluto, Karma, Valentine, Juno, Kaali and Eros for reasons I will state one at a time.

The results from my persona charts to his natals

Moon Persona chart

Synastrically my Moon at 3 cancer falls on the empty peg of his T-Square -

Moon and Mars at 29 Pisces, Valentine at 1 Aries
2 Libra Pluto
2 Cappy Sun

Moon's persona chart

all 0 degree aspects

my MP Venus conjuncts his natal eighth house ruler Saturn

my MP vertex conjunct his Uranus and Kaali

my MP Juno conjuncts his sun

Saturn Persona chart

Synastrically my Saturn conjunct his Uranus and Kaali and draco Saturn opposes his natal Sun

MP Mercury ( my natal DC ruler ) conjuncts his Pluto

MP Eros conjunct his natal Eros

MP Karma conjuncts composite Ascendent - Chiron

MP DC conjuncts composite Moon

MP Nessus conjunct his S. Node and composite Saturn.

Chiron Persona chart

Synastrically his Draco Valentine falls on my Venus-Chiron and opposes his Pluto - all 0 degrees. As per Jeff Green the opposite point of Pluto is the very purpose of the soul for this incarnation hence this point is VERY important for us.

The sabian reads " A Spanish gallant serenades his beloved " - not only did we have a spanish lifeline together he IS Spanish this time around too !

More on our Valentine connection later, its gets much spookier

MP Saturn conjunct his Vertex and composite DC

MP Juno conjunct his natal Moon - Mars exactly

MP Karma conjunct his natal ASC-Nessus

MP Osiris conjunct his Chiron

posted January 10, 2012 09:56 AM            

Natal Pluto is part of a yod featuring Venus-Chiron and Neptune.

MP Vertex conjuncts his DC and Jupiter.

MP Eros conjuncts his natal Siva and Eros

MP Karma conjunct composite ASC-Chiron exactly

MP Venus conjunct his natal Karma

MP DC is his draco Sun

Karma 3811

Synastrically my Karma opposes his Uranus,Kaali and Karma - which is conjunct my Pluto and Lilith .

Draco Karma conjunct his natal Sun

Karma Persona chart

MP DC conjuncts composite DC exactly

MP Mercury-Mars conjuncts composite ASC-Chiron

MP True Node conjunct my natal Kaali-Sun,Moon and opposing his Sun.

MP Lilith conjunct his Venus-True Node exactly

MP Eros conjunct his Lust, Moon,Mars and Valentine opposing his Pluto

MP Lust conjunct my natal Karma and opposed his Karma, Kaali, Uranus, Lilith.....

posted January 10, 2012 10:11 AM            

Natally Kaali is very important for me . Its conjuncts my Sun, Moon and opposes my Isis and his Sun exactly.

Kaali Persona chart - 0 degree only

MP Moon conjuncts composite DC and my natal Valentine

MP Venus conjuncts his draco Sun

MP Eros conjuncts composite Moon

MP Valentine and Karma conjunct my natal True Node

MP DC conjuncts his natal Saturn.

Juno

Natally my Juno conjuncts his Sun and opposes my Sun - Moon.

Juno persona chart

MP Moon conjunct natal Karma and opposes his Karma, Lilith.

MP Saturn conjuncts his Vertex

MP Pluto conjunct composite ASC-Chiron

MP Juno and Eros conjunct composite Karma

MP Kaali conjunct his Pluto

MP Karma conjunct composite True Node - Valentine

MP Valentine conjunct his Saturn

MP Osiris conjuncts his True Node - Venus

MP Nessus conjuncts his South node and composite saturn

posted January 10, 2012 10:22 AM            

My Eros conjuncts his Pluto and opposes his Moon-Mars. Because it was discovered on 14 th February Eros is IT for Twin flame type love matches.

Eros persona chart

MP Moon conjunct his Vertex and composite DC exactly

MP Saturn conjuncts his Karma, Lilith and opposes my Karma - ALL this conjuncts composite True Node - Valentine .

MP Kaali conjunct his draco ASC.

MP Isis - Osiris conjunct his natal Sun opposing my Sun, Moon.

MP ASC conjuncts composite Karma.

posted January 10, 2012 10:29 AM            

My draco Valentine conjuncts his True-Node and Venus conjunction. His own draco Siva and Eros conjunct this.

Now for the shocker.

His draco Valentine on my natal Venus-Chiron conjuncts MY draco Psyche.

This is THE aspect that clinched the deal for me. My doubts as to whether we were soulmates or THE thing vanished when I saw the above in addition to out Pluto - Proserpina conjunction.

Valentine Persona chart

MP Moon conjunct his natal Valentine opposing his Pluto, square his Sun and my Sun-Moon.

MP Juno conjunct his Moon-Mars and draco Venus.

posted January 10, 2012 10:30 AM            

I looked at my relationship with my twin flame. We have:

My MP Moon Virgo 25 conjunct his MP Moon Virgo 26, and ISIS 24 Virgo.

In my MP Chart I have a grand trine with Moon 25 Virgo, Mercury 24 Capricorn, and Jupiter Taurus 26.

-My MP Mercury conjunct his Natal Venus exact, ruler of his IC and 9th houses.
-My MP Mars, Eros are conjunct his Natal Jupiter exact, ruler of his 12th house.
-My MP Pluto conjunct his Natal Mars exact, ruler of his 10th house.

-his MP Neptune Capricorn 8 is conjunct my Natal Moon/Neptune exact. Ruler of my 10th.
-his MP ASC 12 Libra conjuncts my Natal ASC exact.
-his MP MC 13 Cancer conjuncts my Natal MC exact. And Sirius.

-his SP Mars, Eros 12 Aries are conjunct my Natal DSC exact.
-his SP DSC 14 Gemini conjuncts my Natal Venus exact, ruler of my 1st house.

-My CP Saturn, Neptune 11 Capricorn conjuncts his Natal ASC exact.

posted January 10, 2012 11:35 AM            

I was conversing with IQ about that recently. I am going to copy some of my thoughts, that I wrote to him about that here. I am sure he won`t mind.

"it made perfect sense to me that you looked at the Moon and Saturn Persona charts. They are an "item" somehow.

They are the frame of our personality so to speak, Moon as the most internal, personal, inner planet, closest to earth or as a matter of fact, a PART OF EARTH, and Saturn being the last frontier to the transcendental energies of Uranus, Neptune, Pluto and so on.


Of course they are also "mummy" and "daddy", the mature feminine and the mature masculine principle (in a different way than Sun of course).

They are related to opposite houses, no matter how you count the houses, just like Venus and Mars are.


And also their "mathematic" is similiar.

I read that in the book by Mertz many years ago.

to complete a cycle Saturn needs just the same amount of YEARS, as Moon needs days / nnights.

29,458 years vs. 29,458 days/nights.


Tentatively speaking I think that maybe Moon and Saturn, including persona charts and shifted charts might relate to "practical soulmates" (maybe even twinsouls), the manifestation (Saturn) of the soul (Moon) on earth (earth`s perspective).

Not an idealized conceptual view on it, but a very grounded, practical, day-to-day manifestation.



Though it may not be necessarily romantic (as Venus and Mars, or Proserpina and Pluto seem to be).

Interestingly Venus and Mars are the planets, closest to earth, giving it a frame. I donīt think that is a coincidence, and it probably bears meaning on astrological analysis."

I am very fascinated by my own Moon Persona and Saturn Persona.

In my Moon Persona I have Sun on 17.06 Aquarius and MOon on 25.28 Sagittarius. And this is the reversal of my normal tropical chart (my Sun Persona), where I have Sun on 25.56 Sagittarius and MOon on 17.06 Aquarius.

Of course in every Moon Persona chart the Sun is on the same spot as the Moon in the natal chart (that is the very definition of Persona charts), but I found it amazing that the MOon in my Moon Persona is also on the same spot as the Sun in the natal. That is not always the case.

Going beyond that, my MOON Persona chart has an ASC on 6.52 Cancer (MOON Persona = ASC in CANCER).

And my SATURN Persona chart has an ASC on 8,42 Capricorn (SATURN Persona = ASC in CAP).

At least for me these really seem to be a "pair".

Oh and synchronistically the ASC-DESC line in Moon and Saturn Persona chart, links to my triple conjunction of VEnus (6.07 Cap), ISIS (8.32 Cap) and OSIRIS (7.50 Cap).
With Draco JUNO on 6.47 Cancer!

posted January 10, 2012 11:40 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusdeIndia:
[b]Eros 433

Because it was discovered on 14 th February Eros is IT for Twin flame type love matches.

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I always felt that EROS is of utmost importance, but I never really understood why. I now looked up TR Sun on 14th february.
Turns out it is then on 24 Aquarius, just where my natal PSYCHE (and mean BML) is! (24.02 Aqua and 24.29 Aqua)
Wow!

posted January 10, 2012 01:25 PM            

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"it made perfect sense to me that you looked at the Moon and Saturn Persona charts. They are an "item" somehow

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Okay, spooky synchronicity, I am Sun and Moon in Cancer and he has his Sun opposing them !!!

However no aspects between these planets synastrically unlike Pluto-Proserpina and Siva - Parvati which we have conjunct, or Eros - Psyche which are squared natally for us.

I think the Moon-Saturn pair belongs to the physical plane and is the densest vibration of the Yin - Yang kind,rather than the realm of the spirit and its split into divine masculine and feminine principles for earth life.

And yes all aspects are mine to his.... gosh it will take a whhile to do the reverse.

Lets look at the aspects between my Moon Persona and his Saturn Persona

zero degree only -

My MP Karma conjunct his SP DC

My MP Sun conjunct his SP Venus-Mars

My MP Saturn opposes his SP Chiron

My MP Moon opposes his SP Eros

My MP Moon conunct his SP Psyche

My MP Saturn his SP Karma

My MP ASC conjunct his SP Osiris

There are a lot of other aspects of the persona charts to our natal and composite that I will list later....not to mention dracos.yikes.

posted January 10, 2012 02:34 PM            

However no aspects between these planets synastrically "

You have the resonance with them through the Cancer-Capricorn axis.