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Topic: Scorpios and forgiveness?
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Anjellyfish Knowflake Posts: 159 From: AR, United States Registered: Sep 2011
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posted January 12, 2012 04:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by RegardesPlatero: I have the moon in the 8th, in Cancer.I agree about cutting people off. However, some (not all) people who get to that point with me can earn (and yes, it must be EARNED) a second chance. Blow that one, though, and we're done. There are a number of people whom I have cut out of my life, but of those, only three have zero hope ever of speaking to me again and of ever even being 'neutral' with me, let alone being reconciled to me. The rest of them would have to apologize, admit how much they hurt me, truly understand how deeply they hurt me and how much emotional suffering they caused, and would honestly have to really care that they had hurt me for me to ever speak to them again. I saw three of them about a year ago and not one spoke to me, which tells me everything that I need to know. They don't feel bad about anything and have no interest in seeking forgiveness(I would have said hi to two of them if they had said hi to me first and would have been civil), so I'm better off with them staying away from me. Their loss, not mine. I don't hate them or wish harm on them, but I don't really care about what happens to them, either. I could make peace with most of them if they were willing to be understanding and remorseful. But hey, no big deal if they don't.
They may ignore you, not because they don't feel apologetic or fail to see what they did wrong, but I've had people cut me off before, and my attitude is that speaking to them or acknowledging them is pointless, because they'll probably still ignore me. Also, they may feel awkward, or no longer care and have moved on. Why wait around or try to reconcilitate with someone who has cut you off or severed ties with you? I don't cut people off, but if people cut me off, and then want to reconcilitate...my attitude is "no" because I'm not an object, or an option, so I don't deal with people who compartmentalize me in such a manner. I do also hold huge grudges against people like that. So, either they see it the way I do, or they moved on and no longer care, or feel awkward. I personally do not chase after people or bother with fickle people, imho. IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1013 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted December 07, 2019 07:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by NickiG: anjellyfish, it depends on what level their scorpio placements arei know this is talked about a lot, but i really cant stress it enough i have 3 scorpio placements, including my sun, and the minor things i can forgive, but if you break my trust with a HUGE thing, it would take forever for me to trust you again and possibly even longer for me to forgive you i also believe (after a lot of observation) that the more planets you have in a sign the more pure the energy is for example, a person with only one planet in scorpio will act more like your average scorpio would (or rather, what you might have read about the sign) but a person with a packed sign acts more true to what the energy really is (i know leos who dont act "leoish") and i dont act like your typical scorpio
Which placements do you have in Scorpio? ------------------ Cancer Rising 2nd House Leo Sun 3rd House Leo Mercury 6th House Sagittarius Moon & Pluto 1st House Cancer Venus & Mars 9th House Pisces Jupiter conjunct MC. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 4874 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 07, 2019 11:22 AM
I have never experienced this with Scorpio! My mom is about as much Scorpio/Pluto as it gets with Sun, Moon, Mercury Scorpio sq Pluto and she is as forgiving as they come! Sure, she's had issues but it's been about herself and no one else!Personally, I feel Taurus being much more on the unforgiving side of the spectrum and especially the moons. Heck, I am less forgiving than she is and have Sun/Moon/Mercury sq Pluto and only Uranus and NN in Scorpio. IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 441 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted December 07, 2019 11:46 AM
I have a Scorpio28 Sun conjunct a Scorpio30 Chiron (in 3rd house) ... with Mercury at Scorpio16.I forgive without hesitation - but never forget ... because not forgiving damages our health, and forgetting condemns us to repeat the past. Hence ... trusted others who wrong me/betray my trust invariably perceive me as unforgiving (because I do then treat them differently/exclude them from my inner circle) - but, in reality, what has changed is that I no longer trust them to "do no harm" (to me). IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Moderator Posts: 2165 From: Mars Registered: Jul 2015
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posted December 07, 2019 12:07 PM
I'm Aquarius/Scorpio dominant and it takes a lot for me to be unforgiving. I will put up with a lot before that line is crossed and when it is, I am quite ruthless/cold about it. If you come at me trying to tear me down I will throw it back at you in your face; at that point, you've asked for it. I get that people say stupid **** sometimes but I know when people are just talking out of their ass vs. intentionally trying to hurt me. I won't put up with the latter; if that's how some people want to be then they can learn the hard way. People that I won't forgive don't exist in my lives anymore. They lost that privilege when they made the choice to cross me. It's not just because I'm angry, it's more complex than that. I will most likely hold back on revenge unless you really cross a major line; I may forgive but I never forget. IP: Logged |
TrueScorpio Knowflake Posts: 149 From: Registered: Sep 2017
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posted December 07, 2019 03:19 PM
A Scorpio never holds someone else to a higher standard than they have for themselves. I'm extremely biased but Scorpios are so acutely aware of their own flaws that I think they're one of the most forgiving of the signs. As such, they are very forgiving of others. I think what most people don't see is that if a Scorpio has cut ties that person has been given ample opportunity to reveal themselves as authentic and trustworthy. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Moderator Posts: 2165 From: Mars Registered: Jul 2015
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posted December 08, 2019 03:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by TrueScorpio: A Scorpio never holds someone else to a higher standard than they have for themselves. I'm extremely biased but Scorpios are so acutely aware of their own flaws that I think they're one of the most forgiving of the signs. As such, they are very forgiving of others. I think what most people don't see is that if a Scorpio has cut ties that person has been given ample opportunity to reveal themselves as authentic and trustworthy.
I agree with this. When I am done with someone, it is because that person has repeatedly failed to prove themselves as authentic and trustworthy as you have said. There's a difference between making mistakes vs. being untrustworthy because of these actions that have built up overtime. IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 1046 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted December 08, 2019 06:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by charlie: I have never experienced this with Scorpio! My mom is about as much Scorpio/Pluto as it gets with Sun, Moon, Mercury Scorpio sq Pluto and she is as forgiving as they come! Sure, she's had issues but it's been about herself and no one else!Personally, I feel Taurus being much more on the unforgiving side of the spectrum and especially the moons. Heck, I am less forgiving than she is and have Sun/Moon/Mercury sq Pluto and only Uranus and NN in Scorpio.
Then, your Mom is prob has mastered manipulation. Once Scorpio mastered it, they can manipulate themselves to manipulate outer, they hide their true feelings from everyone, even from their lover/family. Usually this Scorpio has a hard life to live (before or still). My mother in law (my husband's mother) is a Scorpio and I don't remember the rest of her chart right now. Whenever I have a chance to see her closer, yes, she has mastered the manipulation. I see that she actually is a highly sensitive person, can't take rejection, and has fragile heart. But she tries to hide all of the true feelings so people (who also that close to her) don't run away from her because she knows she has strong intense reaction. Scorpio is surprisingly care too much about what other people think of them although they say "whatever" but you know they take it to the heart. That's why some of them is quick to cut you off or stay to manipulate. I also have Sun/Mercury square Pluto, Venus trine, Mars minor. I give people chances but the trust level takes lower than before. Until I decide the person doesn't worth any trust then I cut it off. It happens to my Aries sun Taurus Mars ex, I gave him chances after a lot of betrayal and physical violence. Broke up with him I cut him off like he is death to me after I found out one of them is our close mutual friend. Even if I ever meet him again, he just a stranger as my feelings are death to him. Some of my friends at the time told me that he looked like he still had a hope for me and I acted shocked in a jokingly manner. Naaaah. I don't even feel like he was once close to me, I probably won't even realize if he passes through me. To just forgive is easy for me, or I say move on? But to COMPLETELY forgive isn't that easy because it's not easy to forgive myself to let my self in the situation where I give chances. IP: Logged |
Astra Knowflake Posts: 1072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 08, 2019 07:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by Anjellyfish: Not trying to dog anyone or a certain zodiac sign with this post. Anyways, I have noticed from much personal experience (and those of my friends who are acquainted with astrology have observed this) that some Scorpios or who have strong Scorpionic influence, aren't very forgiving. Like...if you wrong them or do something that hurts them or makes them angry of any nature, even if unintentional....they are quick to cut ties with you/disown you/silent treatment, etc. and depending on how evolved they are, they may also seek revenge. It doesn't seem to be with all of the ones I know..I'd say 50%? They seem really quick to cut someone off over stuff.Anyways...has anyone ever noticed this? Curious as to why they are like this. Ever noticed any other astrological signs or placement who may do this?
I find that Scorpios (sun, mars and moon to a lesser extent) are fairly forgiving to an extent provided that you show genuine remorse. I think Scorpio moons have the hardest time of letting things go if you hurt them deeply seeing as how the moon is all about someone's emotions. You have to do something quite extreme for them to cut you out of their life. IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo Knowflake Posts: 2778 From: Welcome to Mercury Registered: Jul 2015
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posted December 09, 2019 12:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by TrueScorpio: A Scorpio never holds someone else to a higher standard than they have for themselves. I'm extremely biased but Scorpios are so acutely aware of their own flaws that I think they're one of the most forgiving of the signs. As such, they are very forgiving of others. I think what most people don't see is that if a Scorpio has cut ties that person has been given ample opportunity to reveal themselves as authentic and trustworthy.
Yeah, basically. Scorpios and/or Plutonic types go to great lengths to bond with people they care about. So if they're cutting you off, then there's probably a list somewhere of the wrongs they've overlooked before this one. There is exceptions, of course. I know of one Scorpio Moon in particular that broke off his decades long bond with me because of his drug abuse. I wasn't the only one. You might argue that by cutting off those closest to him, he's actually protecting them from his own self-destruction. Although I would call that BS, and being heavily Plutonic, I still haven't let it go. If you give us the cold shoulder during a crisis instead of letting us in, good luck getting our attention again. IP: Logged | |