posted January 15, 2012 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
is this a common thing for venus pluto people? I only like guys with dark hair and dark eyes too!!!

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Hahaha, this is sooo true for me, too! Pluto/Venus conjunct in Scorpio (1 degree orb), 8th house.

I am very intense, an intense lover, even my flirting style is heavy and brooding. My friendships border on obsessions, they are deep and passionate, but only because I care so much. I am highly private in love and with my friends; I can be jealous (totally hate that about myself, since I am a Sag sun/Aquarius ascendant), etc. My friends and family and lovers I hold to high standards but I also devote tons of time and effort on them.

One of my best friends (who was incidentally born a month exact before me) shares this aspect (Venus/Pluto conjunct in Scorpio). I see we handle friendships and our love life is very similar.

posted January 15, 2012 02:08 PM            

There seems to be a recurring theme of the females here attracted to the dark hair/dark eye, brooding, intense type. This comes as no surprise, as Venus represents what one is attracted to, and coupled with Pluto, would suggest dark, strong features and physicality.

To those with the Quintile or BiQuintile, do you feel your aspect manifests as strongly as anyone else with a Venus/Pluto aspect? I have a Moon BiQuintile Neptune in my chart, and have always felt this aspect very strongly in my chart. I find that I'm able to utilize the good of the aspect and separate from the bad. Not unlike the trine, just more active.

Do we all agree that we can "manipulate" our way in and out of virtually anything? I must admit that, like a switch, I can turn the powers of magnetism on and off. As Lioness said, "When I care, I really care... When I dont care, I dont care at all..." In keeping with that, when I must attain something for my own well-being or edification, I can lure who and what I need at the drop of a hat.

SwiftFreeze, it's great to hear from a fellow Venus/Pluto in Scorpio. I resonate with your "before I dissapear into the night" statement. Frequently, I will be consciously aware of the impact I'm making on others, and once the sexual element of it all makes its way to the forefront, I'm out the door. It's definitely the art of the tease. After lots of analyzation, I've deduced this to Pluto's hunger for power. The power to attract others, get them all riled up, and the power to take it away. What do you think?

I tend to think that it was a Venus/Pluto person who coined the saying, "I always get what I want." Venus represents what we desire, and Pluto is perpetually on a conquest to attain its desires at any cost. Personally, I've always resonated with this saying.

posted January 15, 2012 02:22 PM            

Looks like we posted around the same time. Thanks for your response. It's great to hear from another Venus/Pluto in Scorpio. Unlike other combinations of Venus/Pluto, I feel as though those of us born in our generation with the two planetary bodies conjunct in Scorpio simply can't get away from the Scorpio energies, as someone with, say, Venus in Taurus or Leo aspecting Pluto in Scorpio, might be able to.

I tend to look at this aspect as the focal point of my chart. I feel its influence most potently in all that I do. Because I am a Libra Rising, I suppose it does take on all the more significance as my chart ruler.

I must say that my flirting style is very intense and brooding, too. Perhaps a tad too forthcoming at times, sending the less-intense scurrying for safety.

I am extremely devotional in friendships as well. For this reason, I don't have too many friends that I render part of my "inner circle". I don't make much use of FaceBook, etc. because quite frankly, I find that very superficial.

"My friends and family and lovers I hold to high standards but I also devote tons of time and effort on them." I can't tell you how much that describes me. Like me, you are also a Sagittarius Sun. It's interesting how the Venus/Pluto dynamic plays out for us Saggies, as the energies are so contradictory to one another. I do have a side to me that's very life-of-the-party (Sag), but once the night is over, it's only my true friends that matter. The people in attendance at a party or club simply become part of the audience.

posted January 15, 2012 04:31 PM            

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Originally posted by alaz7200:
Hi all,

I'm new to the Forum, and as someone with a Venus/Pluto aspect in my Natal Chart, the combination has always intrigued me. In my case, Venus is conjunct Pluto in Scorpio. As one might presume, my interpersonal relationships are very much infused with themes of possession, obsession, devotion, eroticism, and crises. The only relationships (platonic or romantic) that attract me are those of depth and promise. I am extremely private about the goings on within my relationships, and dually solicitous of those I love, or more accurately, form attachments to.

What are your experiences of Venus/Pluto love, in any context? I have yet to meet another person with a Venus-Pluto conjunction, thus cannot attest to how the planetary energies play out for others. I would also be curious to learn about how the square and opposition (and to a lesser extent, the trine and sextile) manifest in your lives, or the lives of those you have come to know.

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hi there, what is the rest of your chart like and what house does your conjunction fall into? i feel like it makes a big difference on where it manifests itself

anywho ive got a close venus/pluto conjunction in scorpio as well, my rising is in taurus so the conjunction falls right on the axis opposing my ascendent and my suns in libra so i have the double rulership of venus.

since as long as i can remember ive had issues with jealousy, insecurities, betrayals, and very deep feelings towards people and obsessions. i dont think ive ever been in a light and breezy relationship, and there have always been serious fights/storms. ive noticed that my insecurities really manifest itself out in my partners, and i drive them away at the same time when i do this. i think i might be the most jealous person that i know.. but im getting better at it! im trying to let it go. i wouldnt say that i have control issues but ive noticed that when theyr are habits or traits that i dont like i do press alittle too hard on wanting them changed and ive learned not to do that anymore and to just accept it as it is. my perspectives on relationships have changed so much and every relationship i change a certain part of myself for the better. i do feel like i desire intimacy and closeness and the types of relationships that i find myself changing my habits/perspectives for the better are the ones that i care about the most. ive learned to really open myself up and love everyone, i use to be extremely harsh in my feelings towards people growing up, but through my own personal philosophies and experience ive i guess transformed my whole perspective on people and healing myself and others. i think apart of that too is that venus/pluto tends to hold things in and ive had to learn to let things go

posted January 15, 2012 05:13 PM            

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Originally posted by alaz7200:
Thank you to AquaGuy91, Lioness, Delilah, sand, lu_pirate, bluegreyeyes, VenusDiSirius, SensibleHeart, DayandNight21, RunAroundScreaming, and enchantress299 for your insightful responses!

There seems to be a recurring theme of the females here attracted to the dark hair/dark eye, brooding, intense type. This comes as no surprise, as Venus represents what one is attracted to, and coupled with Pluto, would suggest dark, strong features and physicality.

To those with the Quintile or BiQuintile, do you feel your aspect manifests as strongly as anyone else with a Venus/Pluto aspect? I have a Moon BiQuintile Neptune in my chart, and have always felt this aspect very strongly in my chart. I find that I'm able to utilize the good of the aspect and separate from the bad. Not unlike the trine, just more active.

Do we all agree that we can "manipulate" our way in and out of virtually anything? I must admit that, like a switch, I can turn the powers of magnetism on and off. As Lioness said, "When I care, I really care... When I dont care, I dont care at all..." In keeping with that, when I must attain something for my own well-being or edification, I can lure who and what I need at the drop of a hat.

SwiftFreeze, it's great to hear from a fellow Venus/Pluto in Scorpio. I resonate with your "before I dissapear into the night" statement. Frequently, I will be consciously aware of the impact I'm making on others, and once the sexual element of it all makes its way to the forefront, I'm out the door. It's definitely the art of the tease. After lots of analyzation, I've deduced this to Pluto's hunger for power. The power to attract others, get them all riled up, and the power to take it away. What do you think?

I tend to think that it was a Venus/Pluto person who coined the saying, "I always get what I want." Venus represents what we desire, and Pluto is perpetually on a conquest to attain its desires at any cost. Personally, I've always resonated with this saying.

Thoughts?

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posted January 15, 2012 05:15 PM            

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Originally posted by alaz7200:
Do we all agree that we can "manipulate" our way in and out of virtually anything? I must admit that, like a switch, I can turn the powers of magnetism on and off. As Lioness said, "When I care, I really care... When I dont care, I dont care at all..." In keeping with that, when I must attain something for my own well-being or edification, I can lure who and what I need at the drop of a hat.

SwiftFreeze, it's great to hear from a fellow Venus/Pluto in Scorpio. I resonate with your "before I dissapear into the night" statement. Frequently, I will be consciously aware of the impact I'm making on others, and once the sexual element of it all makes its way to the forefront, I'm out the door. It's definitely the art of the tease. After lots of analyzation, I've deduced this to Pluto's hunger for power. The power to attract others, get them all riled up, and the power to take it away. What do you think?

I tend to think that it was a Venus/Pluto person who coined the saying, "I always get what I want." Venus represents what we desire, and Pluto is perpetually on a conquest to attain its desires at any cost. Personally, I've always resonated with this saying.

Thoughts?

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Em... Not quite. I would say that I tend to draw manipulative people towards me and they have the audacity to be angry once I show them the door. Pluto rules my 10th and 11th houses. I don't like authority figures and have had some of the worst "friends" in the history of friendship. My Venus is in Virgo and Pluto is in Scorpio. Virgo may cool down my ability to manipulate because I don't. I did when I was a teenager, but not now. Can't even say why.

posted January 15, 2012 07:46 PM            

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Originally posted by alaz7200:
Thank you to AquaGuy91, Lioness, Delilah, sand, lu_pirate, bluegreyeyes, VenusDiSirius, SensibleHeart, DayandNight21, RunAroundScreaming, and enchantress299 for your insightful responses!

To those with the Quintile or BiQuintile, do you feel your aspect manifests as strongly as anyone else with a Venus/Pluto aspect? I have a Moon BiQuintile Neptune in my chart, and have always felt this aspect very strongly in my chart. I find that I'm able to utilize the good of the aspect and separate from the bad. Not unlike the trine, just more active.

Thoughts?

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Welcome

Well, it's what the quintile does, It makes you take the best of the aspect. That's why they are oftem called "gifts". It's not as intense as the conjunct, square or trine. But a great aspect.

I feel like I could do anything that this aspect consider as bad (manipulating, etc), but still be considered as a nice person. I guess that's what quintile does. I can use sexy clother and not be tagged as "vain". It's like 'nymphomaniac' could be considered as a compliment for us with quintile.

Quintile also applies to creative works, so I'm a illustrator and Pluto-theme stuff are great for my work, I do have an intense artistic presence (and I have 2 friends with this quintile who are the same).

A moon biquintile neptune may be awesome!! Since thoose two planets match really well (better tham venus and pluto). I have an square ans It's not so hard to deal, so a biquintile is awesome

Hahaha, also, I think I'm the only here attracted to blode guys!

posted January 15, 2012 07:53 PM            

(i also prefer dark hair/eyes/complexion but i don't have this aspect. though i do have venus rising and pluto singleton and most elevated so maybe since they both kinda dominate my chart in a way that is why??)

what do you guys think of this article?

posted January 16, 2012 02:43 AM            

@SensibleHeart: I love the Heathcliff/Catherine association. Not surprisingly, "Wuthering Heights" was one of my favorite books in high school. I am most definitely addicted to love as well. Once I'm in love, that is. There seems to be no moderation. I just crave more, more, and more of it. "Smother love" is the perfect description.

posted January 16, 2012 03:35 AM            

it's weird cuz the only people i've been serious with have this aspect and i'm very empathic to the point where i truly can't distinguish my feelings and others' about 90% of the time, and this generally stands until i know someone VERY well. anyway, venus/pluto seems pretty secretly obsessive (?) and in these relationships i always felt obsessively TOWARD them, but with the whole going cold/mind games thing that can go with this aspect it always seemed they weren't a lot of the time.. BUT turns out they were, so i think i was actually mostly feeling their feelings.

posted January 16, 2012 03:45 AM            

I only just saw your post Lioness

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When I care, I really care... When I dont care, I dont care at all..

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posted January 16, 2012 09:14 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
I'm a real kiss fetishist and the best and most intense kissers (you know, melting together in DEEP DEEP passion.. the desire to taste EVERY part with just kissing so that you'll totally LOSE yourself in it etc.) always had a v/p-aspect.

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posted January 16, 2012 09:39 AM            

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Originally posted by SensibleHeart:
I have an extremely addictive personality when it comes to love. I want what i want and i want LOTS of it. complete devotion. When i think of plutonian energy i often thing of heathcliff and catherine from wuthering heights. Those of us who have our love planets probably "love hard" the same way.

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YESS!!! HEATHCLIFF!

posted January 16, 2012 10:28 AM            

@alaz7200 quintile are so misundertood! They say it's a minor aspect, but we, who have it, doesn't feel like a minor aspect! I also have mars/jupter and moon/mars biquintile (I think without this last one I wouldn't have healthy relationships - my moon is all problematic and my mars is really strong!)