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Topic: Venus/Pluto aspects in Natal Chart
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tgem Moderator Posts: 5139 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted January 08, 2014 08:42 AM
Gemini venus trine Pluto at 1 degree and Leo mars sextile Pluto at 3 degrees. Tall, dark and handsome...oh yes yes yes!!! I think Robert Downey Jr. Is probably the hottest man alive  Although I do have a lot of Scorpio/Pluto in me, looks wise I have fair skin, light eyes, and med. brown hair. (Probably the cancer ASC and prominent neptune.). However, personality-wise...God yes, give me the passion, the soul-searching kind...lock eyes from across the room and time stands still. If the passion is gone, I'm gone...I'm an all or nothing and just CANNoT do the casual sex flings...I connect the love/emotions with the sex so strongly. IP: Logged |
whaaat Knowflake Posts: 658 From: Portland, MA,U.S Registered: Jun 2013
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posted August 15, 2014 04:24 PM
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whaaat Knowflake Posts: 658 From: Portland, MA,U.S Registered: Jun 2013
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posted August 15, 2014 04:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by alaz7200: @Anongrl10: I know people with Venus in Taurus opp. Pluto in Scorpio. It seems that they are more often the ones to be the victim of Plutonic feelings than the one perpetuating them. They attract controlling, obsessive partners rather than act that way themselves. They want control, too, they're just not as upfront about it as say, a Venus conj. Pluto in Scorpio, like me.
THIS. My whole family is super Scorpionic too! This would also explain why every Psycopath ever tends to end up gravitating toward me >: (
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LiOnfshh78 Knowflake Posts: 49 From: Florida Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 15, 2014 06:15 PM
Alaz7200, I'm also a conjunct of Venus pluto, and I have mars thrown right on top as well. All in Libra almost exactly conjunct. I've only known 1 other person with the conjunct. There is a lot of chemistry there, but our nodes are almost exact opposite of each others, don't know if this plays in at all, buy it's weird. Maybe subconsciously we know we have the same love styles if you willIP: Logged |
Leorpio Knowflake Posts: 695 From: Cypress Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 15, 2014 07:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by alaz7200: AquaGuy, n For instance, many Venus/Pluto people I know are a very dark, intense-looking bunch. Eyebrows, above all, are very defined. I myself have jet blue/black hair and deep-set green eyes beneath very thick arched eyebrows.Yes/no?
Omg that's me! I have Venus trine Pluto and I have almost black hair and deep set green eyes beneath very thick arched eyebrows LOL wtf! I didn't know that would be the result of it! Definitely attention from the opposite sex though. Girls seem to love me. :P IP: Logged |
socialgraffiti Knowflake Posts: 522 From: Registered: Jul 2013
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posted August 16, 2014 01:35 AM
This aspect reminds me of this poem: "I crave your mouth, your voice, your hair. Silent and starving, I prowl through the streets. Bread does not nourish me, dawn disrupts me, all day I hunt for the liquid measure of your steps. I hunger for your sleek laugh, your hands the color of a savage harvest, hunger for the pale stones of your fingernails, I want to eat your skin like a whole almond. I want to eat the sunbeam flaring in your lovely body, the sovereign nose of your arrogant face, I want to eat the fleeting shade of your lashes, and I pace around hungry, sniffing the twilight, hunting for you, for your hot heart, like a puma in the barrens of Quitratue." -Pablo Neruda (Sun, Mercury & Venus conjunct in the 8th, minor aspect to Pluto in the 7th) IP: Logged |
socialgraffiti Knowflake Posts: 522 From: Registered: Jul 2013
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posted August 16, 2014 01:36 AM
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sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 994 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted November 18, 2019 05:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: how do mindgames bring you closer? haha to each their own i guess. but i was involved with a scorpio girl with the mars pluto conjunction and she was the queen of mindgames,we were involved for over a month but she would never admit she had feelings for me,even though she was always wanting to be intimant haha and if we werent together she would be texting me,and if i didnt answer her text within 5 minutes she would freak out,but she never admitted even liking me haha,but she wanted to know all about me and my feelings and secrets,but she wouldnt share anything with me
quote: Originally posted by anongrl10 LOL, typical Scorpio. Waht did she have in Scorpio? I so hate it when Scorpio people do that. I'm a Venus Scorpio and will only bother when WITHIN a relationship in which case it is mutual; otherwise it's friendly and breezy (Sag Sun, Aqua rising). Wanting to know all your secrets while they withhold all the similar info about themselves is just an immature Scorpio's insane need to control others and have power over them.
quote: Originally posted by anongrl10 Yeah, probably too intense for ya! My Mars in Aqua squares my Venus in Scorpio so I am pretty familiar of the Aqua-Socrpio clash. Like you said, you have to be a very good match otherwise if you are going to end up with a Scorpio woman. Keep looking!
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91 no not too intense for me,too closed off for me,i dont have a problem at all with feeling deeply,i want someone who feels deeply, scorps and heavy pluto types disturb me because they supposely feel so deeply but hide it and put on a poker face and reveal nothing,in my opinion you cant have a healthy relationship where you hide your feelings and thoughts ,and play mindgames with each other. i would have no problem being with a scorp girl who had intense emotions and was open and honest about them,it would certainly make understanding them and getting along with them alot easier
I don't have Pluto or Scorpio placements really.. I'm Uranian. This up here ^^ says it all. The two will be forever on different planets: Plutonians and Uranians just don't mix! I never understand the games and secretiveness. Like aquaguy91, I am baffled at how mind games, secrecy - AND the secludedness - are supposed to bring you closer? Love is meant to expand and flow to all. Not be sucked into an exclusive black hole between only two people. But ya'll still hot and sexy  Uranus conjunct Moon & square Venus here  IP: Logged |
Moonbeth Knowflake Posts: 595 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted November 18, 2019 06:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: I don't have Pluto or Scorpio placements really.. I'm Uranian.This up here ^^ says it all. The two will be forever on different planets: Plutonians and Uranians just don't mix! I never understand the games and secretiveness. Like aquaguy91, I am baffled at how mind games, secrecy - AND the secludedness - are supposed to bring you closer? Love is meant to expand and flow to all. Not be sucked into an exclusive black hole between only two people. But ya'll still hot and sexy  Uranus conjunct Moon & square Venus here 
😊 What about someone with sun conjunct uranus and venus square pluto then?
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sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 994 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted November 18, 2019 08:38 PM
^^ That's my next question too IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 1147 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 20, 2019 09:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: Gemini venus trine Pluto at 1 degree and Leo mars sextile Pluto at 3 degrees. Tall, dark and handsome...oh yes yes yes!!! I think Robert Downey Jr. Is probably the hottest man alive  Although I do have a lot of Scorpio/Pluto in me, looks wise I have fair skin, light eyes, and med. brown hair. (Probably the cancer ASC and prominent neptune.). However, personality-wise...God yes, give me the passion, the soul-searching kind...lock eyes from across the room and time stands still. If the passion is gone, I'm gone...I'm an all or nothing and just CANNoT do the casual sex flings...I connect the love/emotions with the sex so strongly.
Robert Downey Jr. is at best 5' 9", not "tall" at all. (On a side, and wry note, it's funny how it's ok for women to objectify men and our bodies, but not the other way around. Or, at a party awhile back, I was saying goodbye to a female friend and giving her a hug, when she took two very enthusiastic handfuls and squeezes of my butt during the hug. We do not know each other that well and aren't that close. Good lord there might be hellz to pay if I had done this to a female friend who wasn't strongly attracted to me. One phrase, two words--double standards [I suppose this is a manifestation of collective male karma?]). IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 125332 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 25, 2019 03:50 PM
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cthonicstar Knowflake Posts: 172 From: Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 25, 2019 06:31 PM
Sextile aspect here- I feel like my life I've desired unavailable/unattainable men-love them from a distance sort of thing lol. I noticed others on this thread are saying the same thing I would too-it feels like everything Venus is feeling, Pluto amplifies. Art has been so therapeutic for this! IP: Logged |
ParallelToucan Knowflake Posts: 90 From: USA Registered: May 2019
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posted April 07, 2020 08:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Delilah: I have the sextile and tend to only be attracted to intensity. I used to think there was something wrong with the guy. Lol. Nope, it's me. With Venus and Mars both in my 8H, the sextile is a bit stronger. I love an intense look from across the room. I want devotion and don't understand people who can have more casual relationships or one-night stands at all. It just seems like a big waste of time to go for more temporary satisfaction rather than longer fulfilment. Maybe it's just me, but can anyone else sense Venus-Pluto in other people? Whenever I meet a guy who has Venus square Pluto natally I feel like it would be wise to be extra careful around them.
Yes, I am talking to a woman that I used to work with that has the Sextile aspect. I have the opposite aspect. I feel I want harmony in a relationship. We haven't gone on any dates yet, but for some reason since I'm also a Venus Trine Neptune and Moon Square Neptune, my intuition or gut feeling tells me that I'm going to be in for the ride of my life as far as love life is concerned. I guess it helps that I'm a very intense person, but it's crazy how scary it is to me. I'm so Plutonian too. I'm dominated by Pluto and I didn't really notice now until I started thinking about her from years back. Now I can imagine the depths of who she truly is and how deep her emotions must run. It's her persona, her eyes, it just... man, I'm scared to be honest. Not going to lie, and that's hard for someone like me to admit. I don't want to get angry either. Thank God she is a Venus Trine Neptune too. Hopefully that will soften this whole situation up. I guess the thing that scares me the most is that I've never truly shown literally anyone, like literally anyone, my darker side. I don't want anyone to see it. I only express it when I'm alone, like when I'm out at night running by myself or something like that. I hope she doesn't demand this side from me. What do other women with this placement think? I don't think I can ever truly give another woman this side of myself except maybe my own mother. It is truly sacred to me. Just the fact that I'm here on this site expressing it is a rare case indeed. In my opinion of course. I feel like it's like they expect this side out of people in relationships and it's just not always freely given. Hopefully the fact that I'm in for the long haul will be satisfying enough for her since, I really do not like showing my Plutonian side at all. I can almost envision the bedroom situation with these people, like dear lord. It might be too much for my Neptunian side to handle. Look at Jessica Simpson's eyes for crying out loud. I truly believe it's one of the most intense Plutonian placements out there and I'm a Pluto in Scorpio in the first house, Scorpio rising, and Sun in the 8th. I'm also a Juno and Lilith in Scorpio as well as a Mercury in the 8th. I DO NOT want to express this dark side of myself in love in a negative manner what so ever since I'm a Venus in Taurus in the 7th house. IP: Logged |
implosions Knowflake Posts: 540 From: canada Registered: Aug 2017
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posted April 07, 2020 09:02 PM
I can't recall if I've replied to this post a while back or not- but I can share my experience (and hopefully not be repeating lmao).I've got Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio, along with Sun, Mercury, Lilith and Part of Fortune. Technically Sun and Venus are still in the 7th, with Pluto on the cusp of the 8th. Also, somewhat annoyingly, my whole chart is ruled by both Venus and Pluto. I'd probably say my values (Venus) in conjunction with the extremes of individual power and self ownership (Pluto) are uh, deeply important. I've struggled a lot with not letting my value set (or someone elses, if I'm romantically involved) be the end all be all. Actually, I've had a lot of people struggle with my standards romantically, but oh well. I can't be happy without someone who is fully embodied in themselves- and doesn't use it as corrupt or inconsiderately or selfishly. Personal power that's more like, letting power flow through a person, rather than trying to control it? I dunno how to explain. Also I'm all about deep and dramatic love in fictional settings but oh boy does it make me feel awkward in person. IP: Logged |
ParallelToucan Knowflake Posts: 90 From: USA Registered: May 2019
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posted April 07, 2020 09:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by implosions: I can't recall if I've replied to this post a while back or not- but I can share my experience (and hopefully not be repeating lmao).I've got Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio, along with Sun, Mercury, Lilith and Part of Fortune. Technically Sun and Venus are still in the 7th, with Pluto on the cusp of the 8th. Also, somewhat annoyingly, my whole chart is ruled by both Venus and Pluto. I'd probably say my values (Venus) in conjunction with the extremes of individual power and self ownership (Pluto) are uh, deeply important. I've struggled a lot with not letting my value set (or someone elses, if I'm romantically involved) be the end all be all. Actually, I've had a lot of people struggle with my standards romantically, but oh well. I can't be happy without someone who is fully embodied in themselves- and doesn't use it as corrupt or inconsiderately or selfishly. Personal power that's more like, letting power flow through a person, rather than trying to control it? I dunno how to explain. Also I'm all about deep and dramatic love in fictional settings but oh boy does it make me feel awkward in person.
What would you say about someone like me dating a woman with Venus Sextile Pluto? Do you think the relationship will be too intense for my harmonious Venus as well as Venus Trine Neptune? She also has Venus Trine Neptune but for some reason I just get a gut feeling that I'm going to have to give her something that I don't really feel comfortable expressing. Maybe it is perhaps against my nature too. She said she wasn't sure if her last boyfriend would have been able to handle her emotions if he stuck around and she said that she feels deeply. So do I, but I don't know if I have that same level in love affairs. I can only bring it out in certain scenarios, and I don't feel like love might not be that type of realm for me. I'm a Venus Opposing Pluto too... I don't really know what this means for me or what's in store for the both of us. Would you care or mind to help me out with this? I do realize that this is probably something I should experience for myself but I would like to know what I'm in for though since I've never experienced fully giving my entire soul to another person before. Thanks for the help if you decide to answer. and thanks for your reply, it's insightful. I'm also quite an empath too, I might not be an empath to the level of some people, but this might take a lot out of me, especially in the bedroom if you know what I mean. Not trying to be awkward either, but just trying to be honest. I'm just imagining things ahead (Moon Square Neptune, Venus Trine Neptune). I don't know what kind of intensity I'm in store for, like is it some dark stuff or is it just simply like intensity in the fact that they have to feel like I'm giving them everything I got or something? In love I'd rather be Venusian and Neptunian, not Plutonian lol..... IP: Logged |
implosions Knowflake Posts: 540 From: canada Registered: Aug 2017
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posted April 07, 2020 09:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by ParallelToucan: What would you say about someone like me dating a woman with Venus Sextile Pluto? - I'm a Venus Opposing Pluto too... I don't really know what this means for me or what's in store for the both of us. Would you care or mind to help me out with this? I do realize that this is probably something I should experience for myself but I would like to know what I'm in for though since I've never experienced fully giving my entire soul to another person before. - I'm just imagining things ahead (Moon Square Neptune, Venus Trine Neptune). I don't know what kind of intensity I'm in store for, like is it some dark stuff or is it just simply like intensity in the fact that they have to feel like I'm giving them everything I got or something? In love I'd rather be Venusian and Neptunian, not Plutonian lol.....
Hmm, tbh the initial part of what you described about them sounds like more of what might be going on with their Moon, more than Venus or Pluto. Venus (and Pluto) are very personal planets, so while they do have influence on our relationships, it's more about what the individual is experiencing than what comes out in the relationship, to a degree. The sextile is a nice, if somewhat soft aspect! It's a great thing to have in that the energy flows really well, almost like a natural talent, although it does need conscious intent to activate a sextile. - Venus opposite Pluto is a bit like your personal power may be at odds with or- kind of like sitting across a dinner table with Venus. They're definitely separate energies- but also oppositions are usually sister-signs, so they do understand each other if given the chance to communicate. It will be something you'll have to experience yourself before anyone can tell you about it, I think, too. I'm not so sure it's 'giving our soul' to another so much as it's owning that Pluto in ourselves, really getting to know and understand ourselves, and then being able to know what we're presenting to share with another being. If we don't know, it can cause a bit of chaos when it comes up out of nowhere by a trigger or something. Especially with Pluto, it can be a sudden mad dash need to assume control over a situation where one or the other might feel powerless. Pluto does like power dynamics. And opposite Venus, it makes me think that maybe your values are very 'apart' from where you consider yourself powerful and in control. The scarier aspects of self (like standing up for, or speaking up in a situation to stick up for yourself- that can be a very Pluto-situation, even if it's mundane like just feeling awkward or uncomfortable). - I think the imagining the worst might be about the Venus/Pluto opposition, too, hmm. Pluto energy can be intense and overwhelming, but it rarely (on it's own at least) wants to actually cause harm or any evil thing. It just wants you to step up to the plate and own yourself, your actions, your whole self. Step into your own power and be conscious and intentional with everything. I'm guessing your Venus, being opposite to that space, wants more to receive and benefit from the beauty of love (especially in that trine to Neptune!). Neither of which are bad things to want, but you can't have without giving as well. Life is full of Neptunian and Plutonian elements. That's maybe why we each have a placement for ourselves to use and utitlize when those times come up. I hope this helps! IP: Logged |
ParallelToucan Knowflake Posts: 90 From: USA Registered: May 2019
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posted April 07, 2020 10:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by implosions: Hmm, tbh the initial part of what you described about them sounds like more of what might be going on with their Moon, more than Venus or Pluto. Venus (and Pluto) are very personal planets, so while they do have influence on our relationships, it's more about what the individual is experiencing than what comes out in the relationship, to a degree. The sextile is a nice, if somewhat soft aspect! It's a great thing to have in that the energy flows really well, almost like a natural talent, although it does need conscious intent to activate a sextile.- Venus opposite Pluto is a bit like your personal power may be at odds with or- kind of like sitting across a dinner table with Venus. They're definitely separate energies- but also oppositions are usually sister-signs, so they do understand each other if given the chance to communicate. It will be something you'll have to experience yourself before anyone can tell you about it, I think, too. I'm not so sure it's 'giving our soul' to another so much as it's owning that Pluto in ourselves, really getting to know and understand ourselves, and then being able to know what we're presenting to share with another being. If we don't know, it can cause a bit of chaos when it comes up out of nowhere by a trigger or something. Especially with Pluto, it can be a sudden mad dash need to assume control over a situation where one or the other might feel powerless. Pluto does like power dynamics. And opposite Venus, it makes me think that maybe your values are very 'apart' from where you consider yourself powerful and in control. The scarier aspects of self (like standing up for, or speaking up in a situation to stick up for yourself- that can be a very Pluto-situation, even if it's mundane like just feeling awkward or uncomfortable). - I think the imagining the worst might be about the Venus/Pluto opposition, too, hmm. Pluto energy can be intense and overwhelming, but it rarely (on it's own at least) wants to actually cause harm or any evil thing. It just wants you to step up to the plate and own yourself, your actions, your whole self. Step into your own power and be conscious and intentional with everything. I'm guessing your Venus, being opposite to that space, wants more to receive and benefit from the beauty of love (especially in that trine to Neptune!). Neither of which are bad things to want, but you can't have without giving as well. Life is full of Neptunian and Plutonian elements. That's maybe why we each have a placement for ourselves to use and utitlize when those times come up. I hope this helps!
No, it's not the Moon. I don't think a Cap Moon would produce Plutonian eyes like that. Take a look at Jessica Simpson's eyes as an example. I can sense that type of energy from a mile away. Just like I can sense Venus in Cancer energy very well, as well as Venus in Taurus energy. No offense or anything but it does give insight that the Sextile is a softer version of the conjunction. Hopefully it's more of a surface, physical, and devotional type of thing rather than an uneasy or uncomfortable all encompassing type of situation. I didn't mean to make it sound all negative either and I am sorry for that if I did... I merely meant that it might be too intense for me in love. I want plain jane and simple, not complex, overly psychological, and intense. Even though, ironically, that's exactly who I am as a person by nature, but... just not in love affairs though. Maybe that's why she's so inherently attracted to me? I don't know. I agree with the second point that it could be inherently opposing as well as possibly relative in modality within opposition. Yeah, so about the 3rd... I'm glad you touched on that since it makes me less uncomfortable now. I feel like I'm always pretty natural in my own skin just as long as I'm not slipping off into some kind of alternate dreamland or find myself acting out other's emotions unintentionally. So, I suppose I will be fine with giving her my all since I am a all go or no go person like she is. If it gets too uncomfortable for me then I suppose I will end it as soon as possible. I just hate to do that though since she's been through so many disappointments as far as relationships. Like people flaking out on her due to insecurity or whatever....or just ghosting her. I don't want to be another upset especially after just getting out of a relationship that still hurts me. I'm not going to get all mushy mushy here over the internet but you get what I mean though. Thanks for clarifying too. Take care. IP: Logged |
implosions Knowflake Posts: 540 From: canada Registered: Aug 2017
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posted April 07, 2020 11:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by ParallelToucan: No, it's not the Moon. I don't think a Cap Moon would produce Plutonian eyes like that. Take a look at Jessica Simpson's eyes as an example. I can sense that type of energy from a mile away. Just like I can sense Venus in Cancer energy very well, as well as Venus in Taurus energy. No offense or anything but it does give insight that the Sextile is a softer version of the conjunction. Hopefully it's more of a surface, physical, and devotional type of thing rather than an uneasy or uncomfortable all encompassing type of situation. I didn't mean to make it sound all negative either and I am sorry for that if I did... I merely meant that it might be too intense for me in love. I want plain jane and simple, not complex, overly psychological, and intense. Even though, ironically, that's exactly who I am as a person by nature, but... just not in love affairs though. Maybe that's why she's so inherently attracted to me? I don't know. I agree with the second point that it could be inherently opposing as well as possibly relative in modality within opposition.Yeah, so about the 3rd... I'm glad you touched on that since it makes me less uncomfortable now. I feel like I'm always pretty natural in my own skin just as long as I'm not slipping off into some kind of alternate dreamland or find myself acting out other's emotions unintentionally. So, I suppose I will be fine with giving her my all since I am a all go or no go person like she is. If it gets too uncomfortable for me then I suppose I will end it as soon as possible. I just hate to do that though since she's been through so many disappointments as far as relationships. Like people flaking out on her due to insecurity or whatever....or just ghosting her. I don't want to be another upset especially after just getting out of a relationship that still hurts me. I'm not going to get all mushy mushy here over the internet but you get what I mean though. Thanks for clarifying too. Take care.
I think I was more referring to the comment of her saying her ex wouldn't have been able to handle her emotions -- that's more of a Moon related thing, as Pluto and Venus alone don't have too much to do with emotional intensity (unless aspecting the Moon). But, if you're uncomfortable with more intense or soul-deep type of relationships, then you might want to let them know early on or make your own decisions. A sextile is still a softer aspect, and the 'intensity' will be more fluid and easy going than even the conjunction would be (and speaking from experience, it ain't that soft there). Sextile is more of a spicier trine energy than a softer conjunction, IME. Also, there is a biiiiig difference between a love affair and something that is necessarily deep and psychologically intense, especially if you're already like that, that'll come with you into ANY relationship, given the amount of time. Neptune (which I'm assuming is helping Venus in what it wants out of relationships) is still gonna need grounded to get more of that easy going nature. And although Cap Moon is still earthy, they are still pretty damn intense  Yeah, definitely knowing when you're feeling someone else's feelings and then letting them exist without diving in- that's a big Neptune theme! Which, given your Pluto aspect, it probably comes up a lot, but owning that Pluto will SUPER help in those situations, too. If she has a string of disappointments, that's probably more as well to do with her making the choice to enter into relationships with people she knows aren't right for her either, sad to say. We all make our own choices. But I hope you guys figure it out and communicate well  IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte Knowflake Posts: 789 From: astral plane Registered: Dec 2009
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posted April 09, 2020 12:23 PM
Wow, reading back on my old responses is entertaining lol crazy how time flies and changing along the way. With that, I thought I’d add some stuff .. I wish I would have asked how people experienced their relationships. Having my Venus conjunct Pluto on my descendent, I feel like my entire life has been this giant karmic draw, and the reactions I pull out of people is typically a lot more harsh than others around me. I’d say, majority of the interactions I pick up on, are a lot of insecurities and reading through people’s “guard” so to speak. So, I’m pretty accurate when it come to “reading” people, and it’s actually something that keeps coming back, where I will pick up on something and call it out, and typically am denied where people tell me I’m wrong, and usually I know I’m right lol, and sure enough what I picked up on was accurate. My dad, has Venus conjunct Neptune in the 2nd house, so to put it simply, I’ve essentially grown up around con artists and liars. And probably a factor in my trust issues, lol. But there’s been so many times, I didn’t trust someone and they were conning my dad, and everyone’s telling me I’m being dramatic or I’m a ***** , this or that, than sure enough!! Look who called out another fake ******* .. haha Personally, I feel like pluto is an extremely sensitive and hyper focused planet, that penetrating ability to read into people, can make myself even feel uncomfortable.. especially when I can tell I’m making others uncomfortable without trying to. It’s certainly difficult to deal with and it’s taken me a very long time to be able to be more detached and not take others peoples actions as my fault. Because I use to blame myself, like why don’t people like me? What is it I’m doing? Typically libra quality, that doesn’t understand the intense ramifications of prominent Pluto. Quit a difficult combo imo or I should say contradicting. Than realized it’s more than that, and oftentimes not very rational, it doesn’t matter how nice you are to people, for some it’s never enough, and they just don’t need a reason to not like you. And that was hard for me. I’ve also found out my Neptune parallels my midheavan, and Pluto parallels my sun/mars/mercury occultation so I feel like that sensitivity makes more sense. Especially Neptune on my midheavan, I oftentimes very much feel like people see what they want to see in me, and the blend of Pluto can oftentimes be rather dark. Oh, another thing I’d mine as well mention since I feel it pertains to this aspect, I am a fricken magnet for people telling me their secrets. Lol. Sooo many times, I go out and meet people and end up having them tell me, willingly! Their whole stories, sometimes crying to me, latching on for dear life, just opening up. It’s like a continual game of therapist. And this happens A LOT. But the people who come up to me are not the usual types sometimes, like for example.. this one time I was in the bathroom and somehow started to talk to this lady who came in, I listened to her and was just my usual self, and he took a liking to me but started to tell me how he just got out of prison, and she was there for 17 years for killing her husband and his girlfriend, and the first thing I said was “omg you caught them cheating?” And I feel like it maybe reinforced her? Like made her feel justified, and she just kept calling me an angel, but it was just because no one gives her the time of day, she kept hugging me and sort of just latched on, I had to sneakily and gently break away. But my mentality is like.. even murderers need love. And while others might have been really scared with that interaction, I was able to feel for this women and still have a connection with her and treat her with respect as a human that deserves to be heard no matter the circumstances. and this to me is as atypical of Venus/Pluto in my book as it gets lol. To see the dark side of people, and to understand it and still accept them for who they are. We make mistakes but that doesn’t condemn us. And we’re all capable of being that close to the shadow, it’s apart of us. I have so many occurrences and it’s certainly not the first murderer or criminal that has come into my life, not that I look for it, but I guess there’s something about me that shows I’m not afraid, and maybe open to that side of life lol. Even in college I managed to make friends with an Italian hit man, more by chance, and him just being very partial to me and feeling he wanted to protect me in some way? Gangs, crime and violence are not foreign to my life and my family, so that’s not to say I am apart of it, but that it’s not a hidden topic for me, and I’m not afraid of people apart of it or look down on that lifestyle. I have friends from all walks of life, and certainly have friends who do not blend in that arena, lol especially the Jupiter friends who are super high on their horse, privileged in life and entirely baffled by the dark undercurrents of Plutonian life. So with saying that, my dark complexion and overtones of Pluto certainly attracts dark types, but it also makes people intimidated when they are not comfortable with that edgy energy. I am very intense, intimidating without trying to be and naturally morbid lol and that’s scary to some while very intriguing to others. I think having Pluto prominent highlights those dark compulsions and really exposes them in our faces, it’s like all that pain and that obsession pulls us to the extremes so that it doesn’t effect you anymore.. if that makes sense? Caring so much you just don’t care anymore. Being so one with the darkness that there isn’t any difference between the light and dark. It’s all one. Just as pain and ecstasy is one. We must have one side to have the other. IP: Logged |
implosions Knowflake Posts: 540 From: canada Registered: Aug 2017
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posted April 09, 2020 12:47 PM
@BeholdAstarteThat's a wild expression of your placements! And I gotta agree with a lot of what you said, too. Especially the bit about people spilling their secrets- very relatable. (Although in my context, it's typically people I get close to- it's really weird when they don't actually). I think with Pluto in general, it's about knowing/owning/respecting all aspects of one's self. The only way to have full power over yourself is to embrace and at least understand/acknowledge the good, the bad and the ugly. And that can be hard for a lot of people, so when we do come across someone that has embraced all of it- or at least respects all of it within themselves, they earn a connection from a Plutonian person, typically. Like the woman you met who had done time- that's a great example of like, someone who knows what they've done, doesn't shy or hide away from it-- I mean I have zero context of them on any other level, so I'm not gonna speak on what type of person they are, but it makes me think of how as long as a person has accepted themselves wholly, it makes it a lot easier for a Plutonian person to actually have a valid, human to human connection with them. I would imagine having Pluto on an angle really reinforces the importance of that for you, too- like it counts for everyone you interact with, rather than just certain areas of life (like a typical house placement, or something). IP: Logged |
ParallelToucan Knowflake Posts: 90 From: USA Registered: May 2019
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posted April 09, 2020 08:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by implosions: I think I was more referring to the comment of her saying her ex wouldn't have been able to handle her emotions -- that's more of a Moon related thing, as Pluto and Venus alone don't have too much to do with emotional intensity (unless aspecting the Moon). But, if you're uncomfortable with more intense or soul-deep type of relationships, then you might want to let them know early on or make your own decisions. A sextile is still a softer aspect, and the 'intensity' will be more fluid and easy going than even the conjunction would be (and speaking from experience, it ain't that soft there). Sextile is more of a spicier trine energy than a softer conjunction, IME. Also, there is a biiiiig difference between a love affair and something that is necessarily deep and psychologically intense, especially if you're already like that, that'll come with you into ANY relationship, given the amount of time. Neptune (which I'm assuming is helping Venus in what it wants out of relationships) is still gonna need grounded to get more of that easy going nature. And although Cap Moon is still earthy, they are still pretty damn intense  Yeah, definitely knowing when you're feeling someone else's feelings and then letting them exist without diving in- that's a big Neptune theme! Which, given your Pluto aspect, it probably comes up a lot, but owning that Pluto will SUPER help in those situations, too. If she has a string of disappointments, that's probably more as well to do with her making the choice to enter into relationships with people she knows aren't right for her either, sad to say. We all make our own choices. But I hope you guys figure it out and communicate well 
Thanks for clarifying. You're right, it isn't a Moon aspect. I don't count this as a love affair, I don't really believe in love affairs even though I have hypocritically had them in the past. We're still in the talking phase and I'm still pretty bruised from the last idiot that I dated so it'll be an experience for sure. Thanks a lot. You've been a big help and I truly do believe that I understand these things better now.
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Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1056 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted April 20, 2020 10:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: I gots Venus opposite Pluto. Basically I'm either IN love or I'm OUT of love. If I'm IN - I'm in for years (at least).. If I'm OUT - there's no convincing me otherwise. My opposition is in fixed signs - Taurus and Scorpio. I do take love very seriously. It's not a game to me... and I'm never attracted to people who try to turn it into a game. I also have Pluto in the 5th lol which doesn't help!
Haha, same girl, same! ------------------ Cancer Rising 2nd House Leo Sun 3rd House Leo Mercury 6th House Sagittarius Moon & Pluto 1st House Cancer Venus & Mars 9th House Pisces Jupiter conjunct MC. IP: Logged | |