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Topic: pluto in the 8th house (natal)
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inthemisosoup
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posted January 31, 2012 05:40 PM
  
I know Chironrising you edited all your posts but I had just read them and i agree with the part about "healing for better or worse." In the other thread where we talked about Pluto in the different houses, Ami Anne posted about Pluto in the 8th wanting depth and truth . . . and the truth is I am always getting the heart of a matter, and I tell people like it is no matter what, particularly if it's someone I care about. If I don't care about them, I don't waste my breath (but I am not mean). Because people need to learn and evolve, and they can't do that if you baby or placate them.Anyway, that's how I feel about my own Pluto. You can check the other thread to see what I said/Ami said/others as well. Also, in terms of jealousy and sex, yes I can be jealous and obsessive, yes I love sex. But I don't care to manipulate. I brew under the surface. The only time I played these kind of games was with an ex who I had really intense synastry with, very focused in on Scorpio. IP: Logged |
T
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posted January 31, 2012 05:55 PM
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House. I'm deep, introspective, perceptive, intensely passionate and emotional, analytical, incisive, intense truth seeker, investigative, secretive, very aware and incredibly sexual. I think this placement definitely makes someone incredibly aware, of everything it's like they have heightened awareness, and a very strong radar that doesn't miss a beat. X-ray vision
Bingo! Same here Joan  (except incredibly sexual part) IP: Logged |
SaggiMC
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posted January 31, 2012 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by lulubunny:
a person i know has pluto in the 8th house and scorpio in the 8th house (but not pluto in scorpio). just wanted to know what these two placements would say about them  x
Power struggles over joint finances. I have it conj8th and had my first husband in court 4x one year as he wouldn't pay maintenance, did a runner, changed jobs, relocated, all to avoid paying for his two sons.... but i found him Pluto in 8th House - succeedent
Occult things born with interest in psychic awareness. Always interested in partner and feelings. Can be obsessed with sex. Sexual problems if badly afflicted. Shrewd in business and dealing with other people's money, inheritance, Wills, insurances. Power struggles over joint finances but all depends on how Pluto is aspected of course.
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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
SaggiMC
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posted January 31, 2012 05:59 PM
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The sex stuff written about above does not apply to me. I couldnt care less about sex.
Same here, we have to be careful of 'generic generalities' we really need to SEE the chart pls? We need to see how pluto is aspected ------------------
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SaggiMC
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posted January 31, 2012 06:03 PM
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It's probably a house/energy of extremes (Scorpio)
and one could go one way or another.Nympho or celibate. The nympho sex crazed thing has always been foreign to me.
Well how about some middle ground. this is a very psychic house. interests in life after death, goods of the deceased, insurances, inheritances. Joint finances, whether it's parnter, employer or state...
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houses.htm#house8 ------------------
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mintgirl123
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posted January 31, 2012 06:22 PM
I never realised the pluto house placement affected someone that much. I think it really depends on rest of chart. I can be intense and all consuming, but I can switch it off too. And be void of emotion lol. Cos I have air moon, venus and mercury.The whole manipulative and jealous is really foreign to me? I am quite plutonian but I've never been the type to play mind games. I think it's a waste of time. Could it be cos I have an aries rising? Or virgo sun?
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lalalinda
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posted January 31, 2012 06:26 PM
Hello lulubunny! Welcome to LL  IP: Logged |
Chironrising
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posted January 31, 2012 06:30 PM
Carl Jung always had it in the back of his mind that he could be a killer, rapist, and theif...in this way he showed the outmost compassion and proved that unless we admit to ourselves that we are jealous, or could be, possessive, etc...then we emit that we are and attract and people..this is part of alot of different philosophies I see it as a general truth...and this is what pluto is...an unevolved plutonian from the soul perspective follows frued...or the idea that good and evil are outside...jung follows both...that it is outside and inside.... This is what I'm saying...if a plutonian can't admit that he or she holds the plutonian force...like my sister, to be manipulative...then they subconciously become so... that's all i'm alluding to...this psychological fact of acknowleding the shadow...that is plutonian...depth pschology is ruled by pluto. IP: Logged |
Chironrising
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posted January 31, 2012 06:32 PM
When one acknowledges the shadow, he can disengage from neurotic behavior, and still find happiness in the most depressive of objective states...almost as if by magic, inducing a chemical change in the brain similar to a spiritual awakening..that is pluto...the sacrifice turning into the ecstacy of teh soul and spirit... it is the kundalini force...primal being channeled up... this cannot happen unless we see the most evil deeds outside as a possible projection from within us...only then can we control the plutonian force... hope that makes sense namaste. IP: Logged |
lulubunny
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posted January 31, 2012 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello lulubunny! Welcome to LL
thannnkkk youuu! that's the first greeting ive had IP: Logged |
Chironrising
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posted January 31, 2012 06:33 PM
and I deleted my previous posts because they weren't worded well and were too personal..IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted January 31, 2012 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by Chironrising:
When one acknowledges the shadow, he can disengage from neurotic behavior, and still find happiness in the most depressive of objective states...almost as if by magic, inducing a chemical change in the brain similar to a spiritual awakening..that is pluto...the sacrifice turning into the ecstacy of teh soul and spirit... it is the kundalini force...primal being channeled up... this cannot happen unless we see the most evil deeds outside as a possible projection from within us...only then can we control the plutonian force... hope that makes sense namaste.
Yeah but you shouldn't have tarred everyone with the same brush. Just because your sister shows the dark side of her plutonian placements does not mean the OP needs to 'be careful' with pluto in 8th people. Most pluto in 8th would show positive side of that and besides, like I said, this doesn't affect somebody as much their sun, moon, asc, venus.
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inthemisosoup
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posted January 31, 2012 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by Chironrising:
Carl Jung always had it in the back of his mind that he could be a killer, rapist, and theif...in this way he showed the outmost compassion and proved that unless we admit to ourselves that we are jealous, or could be, possessive, etc...then we emit that we are and attract and people..this is part of alot of different philosophies I see it as a general truth...and this is what pluto is...an unevolved plutonian from the soul perspective follows frued...or the idea that good and evil are outside...jung follows both...that it is outside and inside.... This is what I'm saying...if a plutonian can't admit that he or she holds the plutonian force...like my sister, to be manipulative...then they subconciously become so... that's all i'm alluding to...this psychological fact of acknowleding the shadow...that is plutonian...depth pschology is ruled by pluto.
I'm not saying I can't manipulate . . . for sure I can, anyone can. This has nothing to do with Pluto. Everyone has the potential to do good or evil, no matter astrology. What I am saying is I've never really acted on this desire (I've definitely had desires to do so). For the most part, anyway. Check my post from above. My Pluto is in Scorpio, trine mars, trine jupiter, conjunct venus, sextile neptune for the record. IP: Logged |
Chironrising
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posted January 31, 2012 06:36 PM
Cool cool...I didn't tar anyone it was misread...I was just saying becareful and see if they are evolved..in the meantime if you are a plutonian like me...all my planets aspect pluto either by scorpio sign rulership or aspect... and it's in pluto in the fifth house... then this will be great for you to watch...it's alan watts.
http://youtu.be/69xtLLtV-xI IP: Logged |
Chironrising
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posted January 31, 2012 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by inthemisosoup:
I'm not saying I can't manipulate . . . for sure I can, anyone can. This has nothing to do with Pluto. Everyone has the potential to do good or evil, no matter astrology. What I am saying is I've never really acted on this desire (I've definitely had desires to do so). For the most part, anyway. Check my post from above.My Pluto is in Scorpio, trine mars, trine jupiter, conjunct venus, sextile neptune for the record.
that is an awesome aspect to have...awesome. IP: Logged |
T
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posted January 31, 2012 06:40 PM
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I think it really depends on rest of chart. I can be intense and all consuming, but I can switch it off too. And be void of emotion lol.
**The whole manipulative and jealous is really foreign to me? I am quite plutonian but I've never been the type to play mind games. I think it's a waste of time.
Exactly the same here. Will have to think what could attribute to that. well.....Cappy rising, for starters, maybe.. Also, my Taurus sun and Virgo moon. Us earth signs don't have time for BS, games or petty jealousies. lol IP: Logged |
inthemisosoup
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posted January 31, 2012 10:57 PM
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Henok
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posted January 30, 2013 10:35 AM
I have venus (scorpio) conjuct pluto (scorpio) both in the 8th house, and its all about controlling yourself really, and there is horrible dissatisfaction for some I suppose as was with me when you fall into what you were trying to prevent the first time IP: Logged |
Canadiangirl
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posted May 08, 2014 05:46 PM
What about someone with pluto in 8th with a venus and mars (in pisces) in 4th house? I hear fourth house is about sleeping around.IP: Logged |
AlexDern
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posted May 08, 2014 06:13 PM
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What about someone with pluto in 8th with a venus and mars (in libra) in 4th house? I hear fourth house is about sleeping around.
Canadian girl....was your old name hmmmm? IP: Logged |
Canadiangirl
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posted May 08, 2014 06:14 PM
lol, not sure what you mean. IP: Logged |
AlexDern
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posted May 08, 2014 09:10 PM
Someone I know with pluto in scorpio in the eighth house was recently diagnosed with mouth cancer....they are very very young.IP: Logged |
freebrainstorms
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posted May 08, 2014 11:04 PM
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WOWW the fire would just intensify everything ! how dyou deal with it all?!
Wow all these old threads keep popping up where I realize that I never responded to people. I'm so sorry lulubunny (if you're still on here) and I need lots of physical activity, lots of free time to be by myself, as well as I need to only surround myself with positive people. I also have a really hard time not getting SUPER intense immediately in my relationships with people. I don't really feel like I know a person until they've bared their soul to me and I seem to have a knack for making that happen early into the meeting and then they usually freak and back off because it's too much too fast - I think that's partly why I like Scorpios more than your average Aquarius. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted May 09, 2014 05:07 AM
Any house where Pluto is in can bring on profound "shifts" in the innate beliefs/conditioning that the native has had about the affairs of the house concerned.In the natal chart, the house where Pluto is in will show the area of life where these "transformations" and shifts are going to be a lifelong experience. It can be very difficult to "see" as the workings are always very internal and private and can stretch throughout the person's life. My friend has Pluto transiting his 5th currently and I said to him that something very profound and perception-changing will happen with regards to the area of romance. He laughed it off as nonsense but when the transit was in full gear,he started an affair with a Caucasian man. This was very unusual for us to hear because he has always been a person that had firm beliefs about race, creed, culture and one's place of belonging(Pluto in 4th natally). The relationship they are having is transforming the ideas that he has had about this race. He has always disliked Caucasian people and accused them of feeling "privileged", having a sense of "entitlement", thinking of themselves as "superior" to others etc. So in the 8th house, my guess would be that the native will experience many shifts and ideas that he may have with regards to the area of sexual intimacy and death. Perhaps he'll conclude one thing only to have the idea bulldozed by another realization; maybe initially believing that death is "bad" only to come to realize that it is actually a "soul release" etc. IP: Logged |
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