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Topic: Unaspected Planets----Please Tell Me How it Feels
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 09:20 AM
I know I have asked this question before, several times Please, bear with me, as I am having new understandings of these planets. I wrote a few things I will share. I have an unaspected Venus, so I am learning about the unaspected planets from the inside, as well.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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alaz7200 Knowflake Posts: 163 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 04, 2012 03:04 PM
I'm very interested in Unaspected Planets, too. Unfortantely, it doesn't seem as though the members of this forum yield bountiful replies in this area of Astrology. I suppose, because Unaspected Planets are rare, many of the members here may not have them in the natal chart, so naturally, are not interested.I, however, have an Unaspected Sun and can vouch for that. Sun is at 27' Sagittarius (Galactic Centre) in the 3rd House. I'd say its influence has always been very potent in my life. Leader, confidence, vitality, extroversion, and joie d'vivre have always been words to describe me. I've always had to be the Best at anything I ever undertake, and this was especially evident at school and with my older brother (3rd House). I am extremely Solar, to the extent that many people well-versed in Astrology commonly mistake me for a Leo. I do vacillate between extreme confidence (bordering on conceit) and feelings of inferiority. What I've noticed, however, is that with Unaspected Planets, this sway-between tends to occur regularly. Interestingly enough, it's when the native is feeling insecure that the planet's qualities shine through more than ever. For example, there are nights when I'll feel extremely discontent with my confidence and ability to "shine", but low and behold, I'll hear from friends that so-and-so mentioned how intimidating and confident their friend (me) seemed. The same is the case with an Aunt of mine; she's got Mercury Unaspected and frequently feels like an inadequate communicator -- but others only praise her with being one of the most articulate speakers they've ever had the pleasure of conversing with. She's Mercurial to the fullest. I know that there are theories that Unaspected Planets are weak and don't manifest, but I strongly disagree. I feel they are stronger than planets with actual aspects, simply because they have no other influence hindering their power. It's just a matter of the native connecting -and staying connected- with the Unaspected Planet's energy. My father is an Unaspected Venus in Libra. He's very insecure and uncomfortable with socializing... but by the same token can be very lazy and Venusian... however, most people who meet him take him for a social butterfly, not knowing about the recluse he really is. In keeping with my theory, the Unaspected Energy is projected very strongly to Others, even though the chart native may not feel so. Thoughts??? IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 1886 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 04, 2012 03:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by alaz7200: My father is an Unaspected Venus in Libra. He's very insecure and uncomfortable with socializing... but by the same token can be very lazy and Venusian... however, most people who meet him take him for a social butterfly, not knowing about the recluse he really is. In keeping with my theory, the Unaspected Energy is projected very strongly to Others, even though the chart native may not feel so.Thoughts???
I have Venus Libra too, in the 7H. The only aspect I have w/ venus is that it semisquares my Sun & Mars, just minor aspects. I'm the same way, I prefer not to socialize but when I have to I know how to.. if that makes sense lol. IP: Logged |
Delilah Knowflake Posts: 503 From: U.K. Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 04:52 PM
My Saturn doesn't aspect the planets in my chart, but does aspect a few asteroids. I have a hard time focusing on projects and sticking to anything for too long.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 06:37 PM
I have some info for a jumping off point of discussion.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 06:38 PM
Unaspected Pluto By amiann | Published: February 2, 2012 | Of all unaspected planets, Pluto is unique. Pluto is, always, unique. Society forces one to put on a public face.The Plutonian man knows all about public and private faces. He is a master of games. The difference is, he knows when it IS a game. He can take off his mask, in quiet moments. Less aware folks, think the mask is who they are. This is where the Plutonian man has the edge. He lives in both worlds. He can maneuver the cocktail party, with aplomb. He can, also, put a proverbial knife to your throat, cool as a cuke . He has exquisite boundaries. You best know the property line . Pluto deals in primal power. A sensitive outer appearance may belie this, if the Ascendant is Cancer or Pisces. However, the Pluto persona will reveal itself. You may feel it, rather than see it, as an animal feels it’s prey before it, ever, reaches his sight.All unaspected planets demand ownership of the planet. The relationship between the holder of the unaspected planet and himself is an intimacy closer than a lover. The unaspected planet makes certain demands. It is akin to a hero’s journey. He must climb mountains and forge rivers before he acquires the prize. In this case, the prize is the secrets of that planet. By the time, he forges the journey and gets the gold, he will have matured enough to use the gifts which were bestowed in their germinal state. He must bring them to fruition by his unstoppable quest to make them his own. The Unaspected Pluto is called to upon to understand the workings of power. That is his hero’s journey. He will be in the ranks of JFK and Castro, who both had unaspected Plutos. How he will use the power is up to him, but he will be a force with which one will reckon, if one is fortunate, or unfortunate enough, to meet up with him. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Delilah Knowflake Posts: 503 From: U.K. Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 06:43 PM
That makes sense. So, with whatever house the planet is in is the area of life that you'll have to work harder to find success?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 06:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Delilah: That makes sense. So, with whatever house the planet is in is the area of life that you'll have to work harder to find success?
Not exactly. I will put more info up. The unaspected planet is buried. It is in a germinal form or almost a fetal form, in that the owner of it MUST discover it. It is a unique thing. I think you will understand if you read these posts. Tell me what you think ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 06:52 PM
Unaspected Planets —Buried Treasure By amiann | Published: January 20, 2012 | An unaspected planet is rare. I do not believe in past lives ,as I am a Christian. However, many astrologers say that an unaspected planet is a gift for good deeds in past lives. I say this, to say that an unaspected planet is a gift. However, it is a strange gift, in that it can stay unwrapped. The person with the unaspected planet is an anomaly, as he is both gifted and retarded in the traits of the unaspected planet. Let me explain. The unaspected planet does not grow in a normal way. Aspects can be likened to parents. They shape the child, planet in this case. The planet without aspects can run free. He may soar. He may plummet or he may hide. However, he is called upon to deal with a treasure, as a person of royalty. He has both a burden and an opportunity.Each planet deals with a part of the human experience. Venus deals with love. Mercury deals with the mind. Uranus deals with creativity. Pluto deals with power. The Sun deals with identity. The moon deals with emotions. Mars deals with all forms of drive, which includes anger, passion, and aggression. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 06:52 PM
The unaspected Venus deals with all things Venus rules. Venus rules love and beauty. Venus loves a harmonious environment. People with a strong Venus may be gifted in interior design. Venus ruled people may have creative talents in music and art. Venus ruled people may be lazy, on the down side. Picture a rotund nude eating grapes. That is a picture of Venus. The unaspected Venus has to deal with love, in all it’s many forms. This Venus must figure out how love functions. This is a weighty proposition, but it is his destiny. If he is courageous, he may find that he understands the depths of love. This love is not limited to lovers. It is about the quality of love operating within all humans.The unaspected Mercury wants to imbibe words. He may collect dictionaries, repositories of words. He may collect pens, the tools of words. When he reads, he may look up words, as he wants to understand subtle meanings.The unaspected Mercury may get so lost in words that he does not understand emotions. The unaspected Uranus is highly creative. He will make a unique imprint wherever you may find him. He will be copied by others, but does not care to copy others. He is an independent sort.Mozart was thought to be an unaspected Uranus. The unaspected Pluto will need to deal with power. He may be a despot or a powerful democratic leader as was, both, both Castro and JFK. The unaspected Neptune will need to deal with the next dimension.The next dimension is that of creativity, daydreaming, drugs and spirituality. When one leaves this realm, even for a moment, as in daydreaming, one has entered the next dimension. The unaspected Neptune must go in to the next dimension and come out with his feet on the ground. Then, he will be worthy of offering succor to others. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 06:53 PM
More Information on Unaspected Planets By amiann | Published: January 19, 2012 | As I learn more , I have more to add on various subjects. I was just doing the chart of an Unaspected Mercury. There is a certain unique dynamic with Unaspected planets. One craves the nature of the planet. With an Unaspected mercury, one craves words. One may collect dictionaries, as one Unaspected Mercury did. One may collect pens and pencils. One loves anything to do with the mind.With the unaspected Venus, one craves love, all the various forms of love. The Unaspected venus can be charming. As such, he would be popular. However to the person, himself, he wants to imbibe love, as if he were thirsty . However, if one puts ones attention and effort on the Unaspected planet, one will find that he will have a unique genius in the dealings of the planet. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 06:54 PM
After you read that, I will put up more on the individual planets. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 07:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Delilah: My Saturn doesn't aspect the planets in my chart, but does aspect a few asteroids. I have a hard time focusing on projects and sticking to anything for too long.
Unaspected Saturn is one of the best
------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 07:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Delilah: That makes sense. So, with whatever house the planet is in is the area of life that you'll have to work harder to find success?
Well, I have not focused too much on House, as the planet itself is so profound. I need to think about house, too, but it may not be as important, not sure. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Capriquarius Knowflake Posts: 1583 From: So. Cal Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 08:05 PM
Wow, Ami Anne! Great stuff, straight from the heart. [Edited: oops, thought you had a Mercury-Venus conjunction....it's been a while]My rx Jupiter is ALMOST unaspected. It forms a quincunx with my Sun with a 4-degree orb, but maybe that orb is too wide for a struggling aspect like the quincunx. When I was young, people would tell me that I'm blessed. I never understood what they meant...maybe that's so because I can't personally access nJupiter. It also conjuncts BML though, so it's probably best that I don't rely on my luck or philosophize too much, or whatever else Jupiter stands for. Jupiter also rules my IC and I felt like I had no control over my itinerant home life during the formative years, due to Dad's (represented by IC) travel-intensive job (In in Sagittarius, long-distance/foreign travel). It's been simultaneously a blessing in disguise and a source of pain because we Cappies do love control and crave stability. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 08:19 PM
Thanks, Cap I am writing some more on it, now. It feels so nice to hear your kind words!------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 08:46 PM
This still has typos but I will put it out so you can read.Unaspected Planets–A Look at Contemporary Theories By amiann | Published: February 4, 2012 | I have studied unaspected planets in all the books I can get my hands on. I have an unaspected Venus, so I can intuit the workings of an unaspected planet from the inside. There is a dearth of information, as to what the unaspected planet ACTUALLY does in the life of the person. One needs practical information when one does charts. A lot of airy fairy or overly intellectualized info is virtually worthless when you have a chart and a person, in front of you. My goal is to make asteroids and other planetary issues easy to understand and easy to use. If I err in the process, please forgive me, in advance. All astrologers agree that the unaspected planet is like a feral child, free from the usual constraints. The aspects constrain, restrain and modify a planet. Without these, the planet is free. Some Astrologers say the planet is flighty and a wild card, forever searching for the traits of the planet, in a frenzied kind of way. The holder of the unaspected planet is like a person in the ocean but thirsty and desperately looking for drinkable water. I can see where Astrologers get this. However, I think this stage would be the first one toward digging up the unaspected planet. All Astrologers see the unaspected planet as buried and it’s expression being latent until it is released i.e expressed.I agree that this is the first stage to unearthing the unaspected planet. I do not see it as the end point. It may be if the person does not develop it. In that case, I agree 100%. However, I do nor believe it is the end of the story. The holder of the unaspected planet does have a frenzied approach to the planet at the beginning of the maturation process of the unaspected planet. It must grow up from infant to teen to adult. The key thing to remember with an unaspected planet is that the person must figure out how to express this planet, by his own trial and error. It will produce a frenzied feeling, as it is pushing for birth, as an actual birth process. In that sense, the person may feel obsessed with what the planet represents. The unaspected Venus may be too social in a frenzied way. The unaspected Saturn may be obsessed with discipline ,responsibility and doing a good job. The unaspected Pluto may be obsessed with power and it’s workings. The unaspected Mars may be obsessed with his drives, his goals and his passions, which includes anger. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 08:47 PM
Many of the writings on unaspected planets stop here. This is where I will try to add what I have studied with my own journey to express an unaspected Venus. One does feel frenzied in the area of the planet. That frenzy can propel one to go to the next stage. The next stage is to take that passion and “mania’ for that planet and try to face what it is doing, in your life. Then, to ask the question “How can I incorporate this planet in to myself, and make it my own. At this stage, one goes beyond the typical explanations of the unaspected planets.The holder of the unaspected planet looks and sees that he is indeed obsessed with the planet’s domain. At that point, he tries to go into the planet and all it’s workings as one would dive IN to a wave, rather than run from it. Then, the planet will start to open up to the native in a totally unexpected way. The native will see both the power and the humility one has in the gift of this planet.One will feel both humbled and exalted, as one has a very special gift, but it must be used with maturity and humility or it will NOT express itself. There is a strange paradox inherent in an unaspected planet. Hence, the native matures as he comes of age with his unaspected planet. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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alaz7200 Knowflake Posts: 163 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 04, 2012 10:42 PM
Hi Ami, would you mind posting your interpretation of the Unaspected Sun? It looks like you've gone over all others but us solar types... Pretty Please!IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 10:50 PM
Sure Alaz---tell me what you think!Unaspected Sun By amiann | Published: February 2, 2012 | The Sun is our identity. If one had to be defined by one planet, it would be the Sun. That is why the Sun is easiest to guess.The moon is our deepest heart. Venus is our love nature. Mars is our drive. The Sun is the you of you. One’s Sun is one’s ego. The term ego can be used in a negative way, but it is not negative. One must have a healthy ego.If one’s ego is too weak, one is self doubting. If one’s ego is too strong, one is arrogant. The struggle to find a right sized ego is a hard one. What happens to the Sun in the chart is a picture of the assaults to our ego. The Sun can represent one’s father. The aspects to the Sun can show the relationship with one’s actual father. The chart is many layered, as you know. The unaspected Sun is a unique animal. More Hollywood stars have an unaspected Sun than any unaspected planet. It is the sign of the star. However, there is one caveat. The native must bring it up from it’s buried condition. This is the same for all unaspected planets. They are buried treasure. They can stay buried. They can be unearthed, as well. The unearthing is not easy.One will be called to be an intrepid explorer, as it is a solitary journey. The unaspected Sun must learn what it means to be a person. He must learn what is his to claim and what is not under his control. His ego may be weak until he learns the secrets of harnessing it. He must learn them by putting himself out in to the world, feeling weak and incapable. He must learn the lessons of the ego, by “doing”. There is no substitute for doing . Somewhere in the process, he will discover his unique voice, more so, his unique light, as he has one that will allow him to shine above others. He was made to shine. Then, we, all, can admire him, for the beautiful star that he is ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 10:56 PM
Do you have an unaspected Sun, Sweetie?------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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SmilingHeart Knowflake Posts: 619 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 11:05 PM
Oh, this thread makes me want to have an unaspected planet! It all sounds so fascinating and unique! All my planets are heavily aspected...never less than 7 aspects. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 11:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by SmilingHeart: Oh, this thread makes me want to have an unaspected planet! It all sounds so fascinating and unique! All my planets are heavily aspected...never less than 7 aspects.
It is cool ,Smiling Heart, but I am sure you have some cool placements. Get in to your asteroids and you will find them
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30377 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 11:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Capriquarius: Wow, Ami Anne! Great stuff, straight from the heart (what else can you expect from someone whose intellect is fused with Venus? )My rx Jupiter is ALMOST unaspected. It forms a quincunx with my Sun with a 4-degree orb, but maybe that orb is too wide for a struggling aspect like the quincunx. When I was young, people would tell me that I'm blessed. I never understood what they meant...maybe that's so because I can't personally access nJupiter. It also conjuncts BML though, so it's probably best that I don't rely on my luck or philosophize too much, or whatever else Jupiter stands for. Jupiter also rules my IC and I felt like I had no control over my itinerant home life during the formative years, due to Dad's (represented by IC) travel-intensive job (In in Sagittarius, long-distance/foreign travel). It's been simultaneously a blessing in disguise and a source of pain because we Cappies do love control and crave stability.
Quincunx does not count. It IS unaspected, if that is all you have! I would love to learn about an unaspected Jupiter as I don't know much. Kanwal has one, too. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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SmilingHeart Knowflake Posts: 619 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 04, 2012 11:23 PM
Thanks, Ami! Well, have to live with it but - you know - the grass is always greener on the other side. I have a friend who has an unaspected Mercury though. Can you tell me something about that one? IP: Logged | |