posted February 10, 2012 01:37 AM              

She doesn't really express her love verbally, but more so through actions. She gets uncomfortable having to express it verbally, like visibly uncomfortable. One time I made her say "I love you" back to me because I have Gemini rising and I'm obviously a very open person being an Aries, and she looked kinda embarrassed like it wasn't proper to express that or something. Oh, and we've also been best friends for seven years. I can count the number of times she's told me what I mean to her on one hand.

posted February 10, 2012 03:58 AM            

I'm posessive and jealous when it comes to dating the opposite sex. If I find out you lied to me once, that's an opportunity for me to be suspicious about everything else. If you lie to me again, then that relationship won't work. A Scorpio is probing and suspicious, so if you betray or lie to them, not keep your word, it's better to leave the relationship at once.

Suffice to say, I tend to buy things, cook, clean, listen to their problems, etc. Remember birthdays, special dates, etc. Also, sex is extremely important. Most of all, being loyal and honest, and real. For a Scorpio, all that is required for love.

I'd like to add that it's not true that all Scorpios like to play games. I would love to express the way I feel, but the dating scene doesn't roll like that. It defers from person to person, but it's of the norm to play hard to get, act like you don't care, andn what not... I find it a waste of time and prefer not to play games. Honesty is very muc appreciated. It shows we can be honest and trust you. And believe me, you want to build that trust with a Scorp.

posted February 10, 2012 09:10 AM            

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A very good friend of mine is a scorpio rising (conjunct pluto 1st). He's very very intense about who he loves and puts more energy into it then most people I know. In the past he has smothered people because of it. Very few people could take the intensity and focus that he had. Until he met the girl he is currently with. She loves that.

The biggest things with scorpio risings that I have seen is they simply have a very intense heavy presence. You either jive with it, or you don't.

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i have that exact lol! plus mars in scorpio and taurus sun and venus on the other side.

it's true my partners have always loved being possessed or owned according to them.

posted February 10, 2012 09:13 AM            

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posted February 10, 2012 09:14 AM            

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Originally posted by IamLoved:
OMG you guys rock! Thank you so much for your timely responses!

I truly appreciate everyone!

I wonder what kind of power games Scorpio risings play when they are in love.

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posted February 10, 2012 09:14 AM            

Venus may be one of the hardest planets to have in the 12th house. Neptune is thought to be the easiest, followed by Jupiter. After that, it is a matter of opinion, perhaps. To me, Venus seems hard. We, all, need love. Love is the soul food for the human. Venus is the planet of love, all love, not just that between lovers. The 12th house Venus seems to sit on the sidelines and watch love go by. There does not seem to be much for her. She may think that the outer world is denying her, but that is not the case. The outer world, reflects the inner world, in most cases. This Venus hurts too much to put herself forward and risk rejection. She may try, but she may find herself hiding under the bed, as the result of the effort and vowing not to try, again. Love seems to come easily to some. To Venus in the 12th house, she is a creature of the next dimension, as are all holders of 12th house planets. As such, she needs a lover to take her hand and encourage her to come out, that she is loved despite her flaws, which she magnifies more than any one else could. Be gentle with this Venus. You will have a special creature love you, if she gives you her heart

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posted February 10, 2012 09:34 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
THIS. This drove me nuts. I like to help people, I like to listen to them if they're worried or stressed. This is how I "love", and he wouldn't ever tell me how he really truly felt about anything. He bottled it up and it destroyed such a positive connection.

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posted February 10, 2012 10:23 AM            

I may be a little needy at times (but I'm also a Pisces Sun ), but it's not something I particularly like or cultivate in myself (Aqua Moon).
It helps to be with a partner to whom you can say, "Hey, I'm feeling a little needy and/or insecure right now. Compliments and cuddles!" (or some variation ).

re: power games: I guess I'm a weirdo within my group

Summarized actual conversation I had many years ago with a Scorp Sun:

He - "Relationships are about power! Who has it, who doesn't - the goal is to have the most."
Me - "...No. A real (romantic) relationship [author's note: by which I mean "partnership"] can be about power...I guess. But it's about giving some of your power away, about allowing another person - your loved one - to have power over you. You're vulnerable to hurt, and that's a loss of power - but that's part of trusting another person."

Sometimes, it's better to risk being wrong about trusting someone than to ensure (through your own actions) that you're right about not trusting them.

The Scorp Asc part of me may wince a bit at it initially, but perhaps my Fishy Sun and Venus in Taurus in the 7th override it.
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posted February 10, 2012 10:54 AM            

Yes, he is intense, very very intense. I'm a 100% confident there's no other girl that can handle that about him better than me He used to be possessive about me, but after a brief gap in our relationship, I sense all that is left behind and now both of us are content & at peace with each other

They would want to know things about you & tell you things that are supposed to be secrets.. in fact, after saying it they'd even be surprised at why they told you :P And they take quite some time to be sure of you, so just because you're seriously involved in the relationship does not mean that he is too. They take their own time to come around the whole trust part. But once that's overcome, they would love you to death for sure In fact, they'd be willing to forgive your mistakes too.. only if they love you deeply.

posted February 10, 2012 11:18 AM            

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We open up to you.
We tell you things we have told very few people.
We can support you through a lot of heavy crap.
We have your back.
We keep things to ourselves, when trying to figure them out (worrisome things); at last I used to. I wouldn't want to put my worries on someone else, and wouldn't want anyone else to assume anything about you, just because we were fighting.

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Perfect Teasel!!!

This Scorpio rising loaths games. My very Virgo bfriend tries the game thing with me, often (tho his Mars in Scorp conj my Asc within 2 degreese and opposes my Moon.) When he starts his bullsheeat, I back off, dont play, will NOT engage in a power struggle with anyone.

posted February 10, 2012 11:21 AM            

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Originally posted by AmethystOrnella:
The tests are for us, if there are any. Scorpios are very sensitive, we're like wells, we hold most of our emotions, and when we're in a relationship, we're giving some power to whoever we're with. Not everyone can handle that responsibility. It's how we protect ourselves. Not everyone can handle the tests, but not everyone can handle the intensity either. Not all of us test you until we feel like we have to. When we love you, it's all or nothing. We express our love more physically than verbally though. The possessiveness, I'm kind of like that with my bestfriend too, I don't mean to be, but we demand some sort of loyalty. The clinginess, the sex, the wanting to merge souls or probing deep into the other peroson. That's love.

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posted February 10, 2012 11:38 AM              

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How do Scorpio rising natives express love?

How does a person know that a Scorpio rising cares for them?

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All depends on how their moon and venus are aspected. Being scorpio rising is ONLY 1/12 of the jigsaw puzzle called your natal chart...
http://www.cafeastrology.com/zodiacscorpio.html

scorpio rising is a very private sign, plays it's card close to his chest. Has hard time letting go of loved ones, can be vindictive, mind playing, jealous possessive

Next look where chart ruler Pluto is placed and how it's aspected. If in 12th will need time alone..

posted February 10, 2012 11:38 AM              

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I wonder if the Taurean descendant plays into it, as well as aspects to, or placement of, Venus.

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Am glad someone finally mentioned this as it's the taurean traits they would look for. Next look where venus is placed and how it's aspected. Planets are modified by signs, where they express are houses and how they express are *aspects*

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
when you get this chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left should be *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up the aspect grid –at a glance planet to planet. Post the whole PDF file, what we are looking for if scroll down to ‘partner comparison’ aspect grid

Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% as the max orb between planets is 3'

posted February 10, 2012 11:41 AM              

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My best friend has (I know I've said it a thousand times but for the sake of the thread...)
Scorpio ASC
Scorpio Sun
Capricorn Moon
Scorpio Mercury
Scorpio Venus
Mars in Libra

She doesn't really express her love verbally, but more so through actions. She gets uncomfortable having to express it verbally, like visibly uncomfortable. One time I made her say "I love you" back to me because I have Gemini rising and I'm obviously a very open person being an Aries, and she looked kinda embarrassed like it wasn't proper to express that or something. Oh, and we've also been best friends for seven years. I can count the number of times she's told me what I mean to her on one hand.

Then again I think she has Sun and Venus or Sun and Moon in the 12th house though.

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All depends if all those scorpio planets are in 12th OR 1st house. When you say communicate we look to mercury, sign house and aspects and of course could be in any one of 12signs..

Cappi moon is in detriment. It's not a great idea to take just one or two planets and take them out of context. The chart as a whole needs to be taken into account and for this we need to SEE charts

Basic astrology forum, 12th house planets http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000666.html

there is a great new article on moons in 12th towards the end..

posted February 10, 2012 11:56 AM              

Repressed for a long time, your sadness and longing may sometimes burst forth as infantile tears, which seem regressive and inappropriate. Like Alice in Wonderland drowning in the flood of her tears, you feel overwhelmed, and seek to squelch future displays of feeling. “Be strong;don’t cry” may be your motto. You are afraid not only of drowning in your feelings and your needs, but also of revealing your vulnerability to others, then being rejected or abandoned.

Perhaps because of traumatic experiences as a child, in which you experienced unbearable helplessness, need, and dependency in relationship to a parent who could not sensitively respond, you learned to turn to yourself early in life and to establish your self-sufficiency. “I must do it alone; I don’t need anyone,” you decided, as you withheld yourself emotionally in relationships, and learned how to engage with people without full involvement. Emotionally self-contained and insulated, you became a capable survivor, and learned how to effectively play the roles required of you. But often, as a result of your repression, you feel empty and depleted, out of contact with your source of inner sustenance.

If your moon is deeply buried, you may struggle against fear of the primitive infant locked within you, and against a desire to return to the womb or to escape into fantasies of total nurturance. Fearful of your passivity and your desire for motherly love, you compensate through cultivating your adult competencies and by becoming a caregiver. But although you are independent in the external world, you hold onto your established patterns of behavior and to whatever internal sources of security you have developed.

Forced to turn to yourself early in life, you learned how to take care of yourself, and how to substitute behaviors and activities for the nurturing from others you did not receive. You may as a result be compulsive about your self-caretaking rituals, particularly in regard to food. Tendencies toward anorexia, adherence to strict diets, preoccupation with cooking, and fear of eating in restaurants are all manifestations of a twelfth house moon. Sometimes, you become ill as a means of resting from the demands of your adult self, and in order to allow yourself to receive the caretaking that you seek. http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/postings.cgi?action=reply&forum=Basic+Astrology&number=12&topic=000666.cgi&TopicSubject=Planets+in+12th+house

Please go read the full article from this link above

posted February 10, 2012 12:36 PM            

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Sometimes, it's better to risk being wrong about trusting someone than to ensure (through your own actions) that you're right about not trusting them.

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Beautifully stated, mockingbird.

posted February 10, 2012 12:44 PM            

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I'm a Scorpio Rising.

I may be a little needy at times (but I'm also a Pisces Sun ), but it's not something I particularly like or cultivate in myself (Aqua Moon).
It helps to be with a partner to whom you can say, "Hey, I'm feeling a little needy and/or insecure right now. Compliments and cuddles!" (or some variation ).

re: power games: I guess I'm a weirdo within my group

Summarized actual conversation I had many years ago with a Scorp Sun:

He - "Relationships are about [b]power! Who has it, who doesn't - the goal is to have the most."
Me - "...No. A real (romantic) relationship [author's note: by which I mean "partnership"] can be about power...I guess. But it's about giving some of your power away, about allowing another person - your loved one - to have power over you. You're vulnerable to hurt, and that's a loss of power - but that's part of trusting another person."

Sometimes, it's better to risk being wrong about trusting someone than to ensure (through your own actions) that you're right about not trusting them.

The Scorp Asc part of me may wince a bit at it initially, but perhaps my Fishy Sun and Venus in Taurus in the 7th override it.
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Edited to add: That being said, if someone does break my trust, it's not easy for me to actually get over it.[/B]

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Then I'm an anomaly, too - and I hate being told that I'm wrong about myself on these boards. My Scorpio rising is conjunct Uranus, so maybe that's it, but I don't think messing with people is a good thing, power has no place in a healthy relationship (unless it's balanced).

posted February 10, 2012 12:48 PM            

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Originally posted by hippichick:

Perfect Teasel!!!

This Scorpio rising loaths games. My very Virgo bfriend tries the game thing with me, often (tho his Mars in Scorp conj my Asc within 2 degreese and opposes my Moon.) When he starts his bullsheeat, I back off, dont play, will NOT engage in a power struggle with anyone.

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