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Topic: Venus in it's Fall---Scorpio
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Ami Anne
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posted February 17, 2012 10:07 PM
  
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Originally posted by starzy54:
The intensity of my Scorpio Venus is frustrating to me. I feel so deeply, and powerfully that i sometimes find it hard to actually enjoy myself in love.I am just so dramatic and overwhelmed with feelings when i feel REALLY close to someone , that tears just start falling from my eyes, and it comes off as scary to my partners.A hug and passionate kiss can turn into a cry fest for me lol..its embarrassing.Why can't i enjoy myself?! and not think so dramatically.And I have the anti-social tendencies, i get so worked up and busy with the people i love, that i forget about my own personal friendships and making new ones.
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chocogold
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posted February 17, 2012 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Venus in Libra is NOT demanding or needy -_-, nor is it self centered. Get your facts straight woman lol. The needy venuses are usually water signs. Esp cancer.
that is my experience and other people's experiences as well
if you dont like it, that is your problem, not mine.
ami said things that didnt apply to me, guess what? i replied from my personal point of view but you know what? maybe other scorpio venus are just like she described... venus in taurus demanding and possessive
libra venus, always need attention, always need to be placed on a pedestal and also demanding... and both, when doing things for others, never do it out of altruism but, 'i did this for you, therefore'
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Betty Boop
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posted February 17, 2012 10:41 PM
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Why can't i enjoy myself?! and not think so dramatically.
Because it hurts that nothing lasts forever I guess. And when you love someone deeply you are also aware of the fact that one day you will lose them. It is the Scorpio/Pluto death connection.
I know that we all lose people and we go through changes as time goes on - but those who have younger/'happier' signs in their chart usually experience painful things much later in life. So while they are young they *act* young.
Scorpio is closer to the transpersonal signs and it is ruled by a transpersonal planet. So Scorpio Venus is much more aware of the emotional dynamics of love and sex - and how it is all related to *life*- to being alive.. to giving birth - to eventually dying - because it's all so cyclical. This is why they don't take things lightly.
I completely understand though having Capricorn Mars/Neptune and Venus opp Pluto. I really like this about them. IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted February 17, 2012 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Venus in Libra is NOT demanding or needy -_-, nor is it self centered. Get your facts straight woman lol. The needy venuses are usually water signs. Esp cancer.
Omg do you have like, a thing against water signs? Half your posts that I see have something negative to say about water placements. IP: Logged |
Lava Flower
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posted February 17, 2012 11:48 PM
I have been somewhat involved with a srorpio who has pluto conjunct sun within 4*, and has a scorp venus. He also has retrograde scorp mercury and libra mars. He is obviously intense, yet he does not go after that which he desires most. He has an aqua moon.IP: Logged |
crabbypatty
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posted February 17, 2012 11:51 PM
All I will say at this late hour is this.... I have not one demanding or needy bone in my body...and I have Venus in libra. I do like good manners...I hate coarse speech...and I an into aesthetics.IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted February 18, 2012 01:57 AM
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Omg do you have like, a thing against water signs? Half your posts that I see have something negative to say about water placements.
Since when was stating the truth having sth against them? Venus in cancers are very clingy, even with guys. And no, i don't have anything against them, just some traits (melodramatic, overemotional, paranoid, defensive) annoy me at times. I have a pluto singleton and I'm an earth sign so I seem to be surrounded by water signs, heck even my parents are both scorpios. And most of them do seem to be ^ what I stated above. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted February 18, 2012 02:21 AM
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Originally posted by chocogold:
that is my experience and other people's experiences as well
if you dont like it, that is your problem, not mine.
ami said things that didnt apply to me, guess what?i replied from my personal point of view but you know what? maybe other scorpio venus are just like she described... venus in taurus demanding and possessive
libra venus, always need attention, always need to be placed on a pedestal and also demanding... and both, when doing things for others, never do it out of altruism but, 'i did this for you, therefore'
they follow the 't-it for tat' charging system
All air signs like space, so no. Let me tell you, if somebody gave me attention all the time, I would dump them. Neediness and constant need to see me, be with me would turn me off them big time. That's why I dumped my former scorpy mars bf, and another with a cancer moon. Cos both ended up suffocating me and that killed the attraction completely. And I don't see how we can be demanding, Venus in Leos like attention (just like how they love romance and big gestures etc), but venus in libra is all about compromise. Come on, this is basic astrology lol. And venus in libra is quite the giver, there's a reason why people take advantage of us, cos we are sometimes too understanding. And personally, it's scorp that has the whole conditional love thing going on. ^ Example is right up there, about the woman withholding sex as a form of 'revenge.'
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RedScorp
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posted February 18, 2012 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Since when was stating the truth having sth against them?
Eh, it's easy to use the truth in negative ways; but that's irrelevant, now ain't it, since you clearly have nothing against water placements, hm?  IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted February 18, 2012 02:27 AM
Lol to say cancers aren't needy, or scorpios aren't intense and manipulative is like saying aries aren't generally competitive or virgos aren't obsessed with details. It's just the way things are. They possess those traits, you can deny it all you want but lol, most of them do possess some of those traits. So no, don't have anything against those placements, just don't like some of those traits.I actually went through a period where I was like cancer placements are awesome (met quite a few cancer placement people in a short time) but then after a while it's like gosh! Talk about moody -_-. I didn't like how I had to walk on egg shells around them bc there's a tendency to overreact soo easily.
The girls are better, some of the men need to man up. IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted February 18, 2012 02:48 AM
Yee, I get what you're saying. C:IP: Logged |
chocogold
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posted February 18, 2012 03:51 AM
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
All air signs like space, so no. Let me tell you, if somebody gave me attention all the time, I would dump them.
but that's you
i didnt know that astrology was considered here as a fundy religion...
you cant talk about aspects as if they were written in some holy book
so you can say in your case,
but def. not on others... venus in libra...seriously..not needy?
fine line between being vain and being self-centered and needy... but whatever... i see more people being critical about scorpio water venus
but when you try to show the critical side of the air venus, you dont like it... oh wait, venus in libra is vain...no wonder...
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Doux Rêve
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posted February 18, 2012 10:04 AM
I think you can't say something so general when speaking about just the sign of Venus.You have to look at the house and especially the aspects it makes, and the whole chart itself. Some people with Libra Venus will indeed be needy or demanding, if they have some Leo or Cancer or whatever in their chart that would point to it. You can't just generalize things so much. Yes, there are traits which are often present and are quite descriptive of a particular placement, but please, don't argue about it! IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted February 18, 2012 10:15 AM
Doux speaks my mind.
This is exactly the reason I hardly ever read general descriptions about placements. I do it out of curiosity sometimes but they usually only resonate by 50%. The rest is up to my chart. I would recommend anyone who wishes to learn more about Venus in Scorpio to study real people's charts as a whole and observe the people's behaviors. Do it for a close friend or a family member, etc. You can learn a lot this way. But just random, overgeneralized descriptions with no chart references nor specific references to specific people's behaviors and personalities is just too vague and it's easy to ignite a petty argument over what is "basic" and what is "average" or "common". Well, things aren't so simple. Astrology is a science and an art. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 18, 2012 10:35 AM
The charts are a blending of hundreds of energies. We take each one out and examine it, as that is how we learn. A Master Astrologer such as IQ can blend these, effortlessly. For the rest of us, it is a learning experience, not an opportunity to hit others OR ourselves over the head with any placements. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted February 18, 2012 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by crabbypatty:
All I will say at this late hour is this.... I have not one demanding or needy bone in my body...and I have Venus in libra. I do like good manners...I hate coarse speech...and I an into aesthetics.
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naturalbeige
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posted February 18, 2012 01:29 PM
As a woman having a Venus in Scorpio, I would like to think that the way they use their sexuality would have a subtle approach. That way they can separate those who would like to be in that Venus' company vs. the superficial kind. I do run into frustration with this placement also... like I'm a perfectionist who wants a real relationship and not just a one-night stand. Thankfully, all of my relationships have been very meaningful. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 19, 2014 08:21 PM
I just saw this. This kind of intensity was what I was talking about.------------------
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Aries23Degrees
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posted February 20, 2014 03:11 AM
Venus in Scorpio man here.I've met two types of Venus in Scorpio; Those that suppress the sexuality and often act "offended" by sex. Usually they have Saturn sitting on their Venus by conjunction, opposition or square. And then I have met those who are so open about sex that they are able to incorporate it into a conversation like its nothing. I think the best match for a Venus in Scorpio is someone who is able to match their intensity. Some of them may fear their own shadow and so, if there is someone who is able to show them to themselves, this could be very defining. Venus/Mars in Scorpio always seems to know how to respond to me.Without fail. Venus/Mars in Cancer are a bit of a headache but the emotional "activeness" of us combined is very involving.Never a dull moment. I like the Venus/Mars in Pisces but we don't seem to last. There are too many layers to uncover of the attraction is not mutual. There are always some kind of issues.
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Odette
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posted February 20, 2014 07:05 AM
I love this Venus. I get close to them very quickly, because my Venus is opp Pluto.I agree with most of the things you said in your initial posts.. but I don't agree with them being plagued by being oversexed. They are usually happy with their sexuality and drive - and they don't feel out of control. This is extremely different to Aries Venus.
Personally.. I don't think Venus belongs to Taurus. I'm in the camp who like Ceres as a possible ruler for Taurus.
So Scorpio doesn't seem like a detriment placement from my pov..
I can see how the Venusian and Scorpionic energies are not an easy mix... but the 'connection' is not as rocky or out of sync.. as it is with Venus in Aries. IP: Logged |
jjj
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posted February 20, 2014 08:38 AM
I am Scorpio moon/venus/mars and I agree to everything Betty Boop said here, especially the self-neglecting part and feeling the threat of death. She put in words something I have felt, but couldnt formulate myself.IP: Logged |
m.blade
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posted February 20, 2014 08:48 AM
Isn't Venus in fall in Virgo? Venus is considered exalted (where it's most comfortable) in Pisces. Venus is in DETRIMENT in Scorpio from my knowledge. It's Moon that's in fall in Scorpio. IP: Logged |
Liliya
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posted February 20, 2014 09:10 AM
I've read somewhere on a foreign astrology site, that Venus in Scorpio, especially women, like a dose of suffering in relationship. Like there always has to be some pain. I'm not saying the physical pain, but it's like you don't like when everything is smooth.Is it true? I know a couple of women with Scorpio Venus, and they all seem to have a bit unstable relationships. Also, my Scorpio Sun/Mercury/Venus/Jupiter (Venus conj Sun, others up to 9 degrees) ex was constantly causing situations, which would make us both suffer. I'm not a wall flower either, but I thought I'll get grey hair by the age of 25 with him  IP: Logged |
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posted February 20, 2014 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by Liliya:
I've read somewhere on a foreign astrology site, that Venus in Scorpio, especially women, like a dose of suffering in relationship. Like there always has to be some pain. I'm not saying the physical pain, but it's like you don't like when everything is smooth.Is it true? I know a couple of women with Scorpio Venus, and they all seem to have a bit unstable relationships. Also, my Scorpio Sun/Mercury/Venus/Jupiter (Venus conj Sun, others up to 9 degrees) ex was constantly causing situations, which would make us both suffer. I'm not a wall flower either, but I thought I'll get grey hair by the age of 25 with him
It depends. I'm with a Venus Scorpio but they have asc/sun/moon/mercury in Libra who just wants peace. I find that she dislikes confrontation and would much rather have peace. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 20, 2014 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by m.blade:
Isn't Venus in fall in Virgo? Venus is considered exalted (where it's most comfortable) in Pisces. Venus is in DETRIMENT in Scorpio from my knowledge. It's Moon that's in fall in Scorpio.
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