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Topic: Venus in it's Fall---Scorpio
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64772 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 09:44 AM
Venus in its Fall–Scorpio By amiann | Published: February 16, 2012 I did an article on Venus in Scorpio, in a man’s chart. The Fall position of a planet is a planet which does not like it’s home/placement. The home may be too big, too small, too hot or too cold. The planet kind of sticks out, like a sore thumb. As such, the Fall position will, always, bristle. Venus is the planet of love and beauty. Scorpio is the most sensual and passionate sign of the Zodiac. Quite simply, Scorpio is too sultry a sign for Venus. I discussed the male Scorpio Venus, so I will concentrate on the woman with Venus in Scorpio. I am not sure who suffers more from the Fall position of Venus, men or woman. My first thought would be woman, but I don’t think you can discriminate. Across the board, all female Scorpio Venus seem to carry some sort of burden. Do they all admit it? Hardly. Scorpio is a very proud sign. Hence, we can hardly expect them to admit about feeling “oversexed”. However, in private moments, with those whom they trust, I think they will. At any rate, we all have planets in the Detriments and Falls. The planet is different for each person. Hence, each person must deal with one or more energies which do not work well. The female with Venus in Scorpio may come across as a siren. This Venus may lead with her sexuality. In the same way, other Venus’ lead with what is predominant to them. I will give some examples. Venus in Gemini would lead with her intellect. Sag Venus would lead with her vivacity. Aquarius Venus would lead with her love for humanity. Leo Venus would lead with her glamor. Venus in Scorpio seems as if it tries too hard to be sexy. As such, she may scare men off. Then, wonder what happened. This Venus seems reluctant to take advice from a Venus who may be able to see what is happening, such as a Gemini Venus, with her cool head. The pride of the Scorpio Venus makes her not able to take advice, well. This may be her downfall.Open up, Sisters. Learn that you do not need to excel in all things, in order to be worth something. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64772 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 09:46 AM
Venus in Scorpio In a Man’s Chart By amiann | Published: February 9, 2012 Thank you, Ashley, for the ear worm: Chris Isaak’s song “Wicked Games”. I will listen to the song a hundred times until I can’t stand it, anymore. This song speaks to Venus in Scorpio. Venus does not like Scorpio. Venus is a delicate planet of refined sensibilities. Smoldering Scorpio may do well in Mars. but it overwhelms Venus. Venus in Scorpio seems to plague it’s natives, male and female. Quite frankly, it makes them feel they are oversexed. This may sound like it should not be a complaint, but it seems to plague this Venus. Back to the song. This man seems like he does not have a strong enough Mars to deal with his sultry Venus. Mars is one’s drive. Mars shows how we will go after what we want. Venus shows what we love.If one’s Venus were in Scorpio and one had a non go -getter Mars, one’s frustrations would increase exponentially. This song feels like a Libra or Cancer Mars. Libra Mars over thinks. Cancer Mars gets frozen in fear and runs for the safety of it’s crab shell. For a Venus in Scorpio, one would do better with a Fire Moon such as Aries or Leo. Those would be go getter moons. The man in the song seems like he has a tender moon such as Cancer or Pisces; altogether an inauspicious trio. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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inthemisosoup Knowflake Posts: 460 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted February 17, 2012 10:13 AM
I am not sure I agree with you--simply because I don't feel being "oversexed" is a problem.  A lot of this does ring true to me, however. Because I really think Scorpio is such a heavy placement for Venus, I get frustrated a lot. With love, whether the love I am experiencing is "deep" enough, always having doubts and suspicions, etc. And I am always (ok . . . almost always) the initiator in the flirting/dating stage. it just never seems to work the other way around. And many men do call me intimidating . . . it is so weird because if they really got to know me on a deeper level, they would realize I am just a light-hearted, optimistic Sag. IP: Logged |
Starry~* Knowflake Posts: 402 From: New York, USA Registered: Nov 2011
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posted February 17, 2012 10:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by inthemisosoup: I am not sure I agree with you--simply because I don't feel being "oversexed" is a problem.  A lot of this does ring true to me, however. Because I really think Scorpio is such a heavy placement for Venus, I get frustrated a lot. With love, whether the love I am experiencing is "deep" enough, always having doubts and suspicions, etc. And I am always (ok . . . almost always) the initiator in the flirting/dating stage. it just never seems to work the other way around. And many men do call me intimidating . . . it is so weird because if they really got to know me on a deeper level, they would realize I am just a light-hearted, optimistic Sag.
Couldn't have said it any better! Venus in Scorpio here also..but I guess instead of a optimistic Sag like yourself, deep down, I'm a peace-loving Libra :P IP: Logged |
enchantress Knowflake Posts: 206 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted February 17, 2012 10:39 AM
i love venus scorpio people! i feel like they can connect with me in an emotional level, even if it is not on a romantic level. I am a venus in scorpio as well. We're all subtle when flirting and we are like a secret stalker, hahaha. No one might even suspects us that we like someone aside from that person we're trying to get! but most people have mistaken my friendliness into flirting, oops! blame my sag moon there great article btw!IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64772 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 11:08 AM
Yes, inthemisosoup---That was a strong word. It may not have been the best choice of words, as well.I think preoccupied with sex would be a better way to say it. Do you agree? ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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DayandNight21 Knowflake Posts: 431 From: Registered: May 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 12:36 PM
I disagree about the man who sang wicked game, Chris Isaak being weak in that a woman is overpowering him. He is simply saying that she has not been straight with him, it was about deception and morals. I do agree that a scorp venus needs a strong mars as a gogetter. I know a scorp venus mars and he is def what ami described, likes sex and is a gogetter.
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posted February 17, 2012 12:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by inthemisosoup: I am not sure I agree with you--simply because I don't feel being "oversexed" is a problem.  A lot of this does ring true to me, however. Because I really think Scorpio is such a heavy placement for Venus, I get frustrated a lot. With love, whether the love I am experiencing is "deep" enough, always having doubts and suspicions, etc. And I am always (ok . . . almost always) the initiator in the flirting/dating stage. it just never seems to work the other way around. And many men do call me intimidating . . . it is so weird because if they really got to know me on a deeper level, they would realize I am just a light-hearted, optimistic Sag.
let's not forget aries and tauarus are JOINT second place in highly sexed rankings. Venus in scorpio is all about emotions, controlling, and being in control. When it commits, it can never let go, or finds it very very painful. Then it all depends on how venus is aspected as if conjunct/hard aspect to saturn will be very reticent to iniatate anything. conjunct/hard aspect to neptune over idealises and puts partner on a pedestal and wears rose tinted glasses. Conj/hard aspect to uranus wants excitement and to 'ring the changes' may even want a kinky sex.... Now mercury can only be upto one sign away from your sun sign, and venus can only be upto 2signs away from your sun sign. So after taking into account, Asc, Sun and Moon (three most important things IN a chart) we then look to mercury and venus. Venus in water is all emotions, but is it afflicted or has easy aspects. You shouldn't really talk about just a planet in a sign without talking about it's house position, being where there venus expresses and aspects being HOW venus will express itself... ------------------ I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
inthemisosoup Knowflake Posts: 460 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted February 17, 2012 01:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Yes, inthemisosoup---That was a strong word. It may not have been the best choice of words, as well.I think preoccupied with sex would be a better way to say it. Do you agree?
Hahaha . . . sure. Obsessed would probably be an even better fit.  IP: Logged |
inthemisosoup Knowflake Posts: 460 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted February 17, 2012 01:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by SaggiMC: let's not forget aries and tauarus are JOINT second place in highly sexed rankings. Venus in scorpio is all about emotions, controlling, and being in control. When it commits, it can never let go, or finds it very very painful. Then it all depends on how venus is aspected as if conjunct/hard aspect to saturn will be very reticent to iniatate anything. conjunct/hard aspect to neptune over idealises and puts partner on a pedestal and wears rose tinted glasses. Conj/hard aspect to uranus wants excitement and to 'ring the changes' may even want a kinky sex....Now mercury can only be upto one sign away from your sun sign, and venus can only be upto 2signs away from your sun sign. So after taking into account, Asc, Sun and Moon (three most important things IN a chart) we then look to mercury and venus. Venus in water is all emotions, but is it afflicted or has easy aspects. You shouldn't really talk about just a planet in a sign without talking about it's house position, being where there venus expresses and aspects being HOW venus will express itself...
Well I have always had rather serious and heavy emotions when it comes to love and friendship. My Venus is well-aspected (trine Jupiter and Mars, sextile Neptune), but it also has a 1 degree conjunction with Pluto and it is in the 8th house. My Mercury is also in Scorpio, but in the 9th house. So I know all about what it means to have a Scorpion's approach to love. I think that makes what I am saying quite relevant here. Both my ascendant and Sun want space and freedom (Asc Aqua, Sag sun). Sometimes it all gets a little confusing. Usually when I am not with my SO I am thinking about him in some way . . . but I so enjoy the time away, anyway. I like having my space. And I am rather private. Of course, I don't like being too distant, because then it starts the cycle of doubts and etc. all over again. I will have serious qualms before dating a Venus and Mars in Aqua again, for example. He got me on the one hand intellectually and sexually, but emotionally I couldn't handle his aloofness.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64772 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 02:11 PM
Makes sense about the Aqua aloofness next to the Scorpio intensity. They are squared signs. I can't get close to Pisces and Virgo's beyond casual friendships. These are the squares to my Gemini stellium.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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chocogold Knowflake Posts: 212 From: USA Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 04:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think preoccupied with sex would be a better way to say it. Do you agree?
not at all, more like 'always horny' never intimidate men, if anything, they find my openness and comfort feeling toward sex very sexy... IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted February 17, 2012 05:23 PM
i've also seen perhaps the opposite where the venus in scorp is not sexual. i'd rather not ask why coz i grew up with this person lol..IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64772 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 05:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: i've also seen perhaps the opposite where the venus in scorp is not sexual. i'd rather not ask why coz i grew up with this person lol..
LOLOL Well, the person buried it, I think. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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SmilingHeart Knowflake Posts: 1069 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 05:52 PM
Wait! Isn't Venus in it's fall in Virgo? That is what I've read. Is that wrong?IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 2400 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted February 17, 2012 05:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by SmilingHeart: Wait! Isn't Venus in it's fall in Virgo? That is what I've read. Is that wrong?
Yeah I think scorpy moon is in the fall. It's detriment in venus in scorp. IP: Logged |
SmilingHeart Knowflake Posts: 1069 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 06:01 PM
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Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 07:10 PM
quote: I don't feel being "oversexed" is a problem.
I agree. Especially when something has upset them emotionally. I don't know anyone who shuts down more. They completely *shut down* as though their body no longer exists. They stop having sex for years. Sometimes it can go on for a life time. I know a woman with this placement who has been married for 10 yrs with an alcoholic. For the first 6 years she made up excuses for him - she kept forgiving and forgiving. After this she moved to a separate bedroom on the opposite side of their house and never had sex with him again. He is still in love with her and has been sober for the past 2 years. They are now closer and trying to rescue their marriage - but she *still* (to this day) refuses to have sex with him & sleep in the same bed. I am positive this is part of her revenge - because of the years when he hurt her and acted in a careless manner. I think she feels he has not paid his dues yet. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 07:27 PM
IMO These are some things that make Scorpio out of sync with Venusian energy:1. Anti-social! Scorpio is deep and emotional but not a social butterfly. Scorpio Venus does not like any kind of social superficiality. This is similar to Venus in aspect to Pluto. 2. Love of things traditionally considered ugly or taboo! This is because Venus shows what we love and Scorpio does not love anything that is too cutsey or too flakey. 3. No ability to be self-centered and take their own needs into consideration! The Libra side of Venus is about compromise.. and the ability to have your needs *met* in a relationship whilst also meeting the needs of your partner. The Taurus side of Venus is more self-centered.. Taurus being a personal sign stops at "having your needs met". But either way Venus should be at least a *little* bit about *you*. Venus in Scorpio people lose themselves in their lover and the people they care about. They completely neglect themselves. They can forget basic things when it comes to taking care of themselves (like eating!). They are much too focused on the emotional/spiritual world... Venus should be about pampering yourself (Libra/Taurus). People with Scorpio Venus and Venus/Pluto aspects don't really know how to pamper themselves. It does not come naturally to them. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 07:28 PM
Also - I just wanted to say this is my favourite Venus placement as well. I have Venus opp Pluto so I feel we have a lot in common IP: Logged |
chocogold Knowflake Posts: 212 From: USA Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 09:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop:1. Anti-social! Scorpio is deep and emotional but not a social butterfly. Scorpio Venus does not like any kind of social superficiality. This is similar to Venus in aspect to Pluto.
not for me... quote: 2. Love of things traditionally considered ugly or taboo! This is because Venus shows what we love and Scorpio does not love anything that is too cutsey or too flakey.
agree quote: 3. No ability to be self-centered and take their own needs into consideration! The Libra side of Venus is about compromise.. and the ability to have your needs *met* in a relationship whilst also meeting the needs of your partner. The Taurus side of Venus is more self-centered.. Taurus being a personal sign stops at "having your needs met". But either way Venus should be at least a *little* bit about *you*. Venus in Scorpio people lose themselves in their lover and the people they care about. They completely neglect themselves. They can forget basic things when it comes to taking care of themselves (like eating!). They are much too focused on the emotional/spiritual world... Venus should be about pampering yourself (Libra/Taurus). People with Scorpio Venus and Venus/Pluto aspects don't really know how to pamper themselves. It does not come naturally to them. [/B]
not sure libra venus and taurus venus are too shallow and self-centered, imo and demanding and needy... i like bubble baths, to explore, indulging myself in nice things...love being a queen but, def. not self-absorbed and very compassionate like giving benefit of the doubt but not neglectful of myself...i mean, not eating? i like looking good, if i dont take good care of myself, i wont look good IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64772 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 09:16 PM
Thank you for all your wonderful responses. Sharing and learning from each other is where it is at. x ox xo------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 2400 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted February 17, 2012 09:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by chocogold: not sure libra venus and taurus venus are too shallow and self-centered, imo and demanding and needy...i like bubble baths, to explore, indulging myself in nice things...love being a queen but, def. not self-absorbed and very compassionate like giving benefit of the doubt but not neglectful of myself...i mean, not eating? i like looking good, if i dont take good care of myself, i wont look good
Venus in Libra is NOT demanding or needy -_-, nor is it self centered. Get your facts straight woman lol. The needy venuses are usually water signs. Esp cancer.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64772 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 10:00 PM
I have a terrible ear worm. I don't know what sign it would refer to, as it just touches something deep, but I will share it, as I think you will like it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S1novVVD3M ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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starzy54 Knowflake Posts: 484 From: CA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 10:05 PM
The intensity of my Scorpio Venus is frustrating to me. I feel so deeply, and powerfully that i sometimes find it hard to actually enjoy myself in love.I am just so dramatic and overwhelmed with feelings when i feel REALLY close to someone , that tears just start falling from my eyes, and it comes off as scary to my partners.A hug and passionate kiss can turn into a cry fest for me lol..its embarrassing.Why can't i enjoy myself?! and not think so dramatically.And I have the anti-social tendencies, i get so worked up and busy with the people i love, that i forget about my own personal friendships and making new ones. IP: Logged |