posted February 21, 2012 01:06 PM            

I am doing the chart of a female unaspected Cancer Moon in the 10th House. I cannot stop thinking of Micheal Jackson, who had an almost unaspected Moon. He had one square from Saturn. This is a hindrance, so one can say that Micheal’s theme of the unaspected moon is strengthened. I think with sadness about Micheal’s life because I think he was misunderstood. People thought he was a predator because they did not understand the anomaly which IS the unaspected Moon. The holder of an unaspected planet IS an anomaly. Let’s get that straight, right off the bat. The person is an aberration. This does not mean the aberration is bad. It is just different. We must start from there, if we are to understand the unaspected Moon.

Micheal Jackson is a very public example of an unaspected moon. What one sees when one looks at Micheal is raw vulnerability. His sweetness is genuine. His childlike spirit is genuine. His love of children was genuine, not perverted, as was indicated by his lawsuit against him, which was settled When one is a pubic figure who was as wealthy as Micheal, there would be actual predators coming out of the woodwork. Micheal was the victim, not the predator, in my opinion. No person can know what went on behind closed doors, with absolute certainty. My opinion is based on knowing Astrology and knowing human nature.

The unaspected planet is considered a gift. If one believes in reincarnation, which I don’t, the bearer of an unaspected planet was thought to have earned it by good karma. At any rate, it is considered a gift. I can see this with the other unaspected planets. However, the unaspected moon is very hard on the native. The unaspected moon native blesses others, while he may suffer, greatly. Micheal was a blessing to others. This is the hallmark of the unaspected moon. The unaspected moon possesses traits which are unheard of in an adult. He is, still, childlike. He retains an innocence , even though he may go through many trials. Perhaps, he is a child, locked inside an adults body, the proverbial Peter Pan. We love the story of Peter Pan. It endures through the ages because it lives, somewhere in the innocent part of all of us.

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posted February 21, 2012 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hey Ami

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Hi Lala
How sweet of you to stop and give me a warm fuzzy!

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posted February 21, 2012 01:37 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is my interpretation. I will ignore all people who care to argue with me. Thank you.

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So how about logical debate??

posted February 21, 2012 01:44 PM              

So looking at his 8th house of sexuality we see taurus/venus and venus in hard aspect to Uranus -- not great for *normal sex* whatever that is. It is considered a divorce aspect which he has been

So under that libra venusian exterior is a strong dominant virgo who clearly had problems with father, sun conj pluto.

Mercury retrograde, peopel watcher in childhood, felt unable to 'speak up'

mars in 8th house of square to Uranus, again suspect about sexual preferences. Mars is a masculine planet and conj vertex in earthly sensual taurs. So wasnt' it little boys??

Ruler of the Seventh House in the Seventh House

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posted February 21, 2012 02:07 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I don't care to do logical debate, Saggi MC

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Michael’s parallels
Mercury/sun parallel, which acts like a conjunction
Venus/mars parallel, which in square aspect natally this brings extra importance to sexual activity
Sun/mercury contra parallel Jupiter/node
Chiron/node/Asc parallel

Node/asc shows this lifetime was an important one for him. Chiron shows his wounds are expressed outwards insomuch as he never seems happy with his appearance..

posted February 21, 2012 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
why has my post on unaspected been deleted please?

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For some reason, your post posted on the "soulmate from hell" thread.

posted February 21, 2012 02:23 PM              

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Aspects form a vital component of the interpretation of the natal chart. They link the planets that are the active and dynamic factors of the horoscope. Each link means that a piece of our psychic energy is making contact with another part, and that these parts not only influence each another and can work together (or work against each other), it is also particularly true that they see each other and experience each other consciously. This makes it possible for us to get to know ourselves.
It does, however, happen that one or more planets do not receive or make any major aspects. They stand apart, and are therefore unintegrated. They have no direct influence on other planets (or psychic dynamics), and are themselves also not influenced, so they can exhibit extremes in their effects. We notice this particularly in an all-or-nothing attitude: quick to exaggerate, or precisely the opposite: not responsive in the least. http://innerself.com/content/self-help/personal-growth/astrology/planets/3854-unaspected-planets.html

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Unaspected Moon- People with an unaspected Moon, men in particular have feminine qualities and relate well with women. Usually it is diffiuclt to control the abundant energy of Moon but these people can be managed well and they develop a kind nature. Louis Pasteur had an unaspected Moon in his birth chart. http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-unaspectedplanets.htm

Unaspected moon: Horoscope is permeated by the specific need energies formulated in the symbol of the Moon; can tend toward emotional hypersensitivity http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-unaspectedplanets.htm

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UNASPECTED PLANETS

The term "unaspected" can be misleading, since a planet will invariably make some aspect pattern...either through minor aspects, connection with the angles of the chart, midpoints of or thru harmonics.[AND parallels] Perhaps the finest resource available offering a selection of various astrological opinions concerning unaspected planets is Geoffrey Dean's Recent Advances In Natal Astrology (published by The Astrological Association, England, 1977. Dean devotes an entire chapter discussing this phenomenon. In general, astrologers feel that while not necessarily weak, an unaspected planet does not integrate itself easily with other components of the psyche (represented by the other planets). This is also my attitude concerning unaspected planets. Yet although these planets may not interrelate very well, their prime distinction is that they can at least retain their truer nature more markedly so than aspected planets, for better or worse.

An unaspected planet can appear quite intense and one-pointed in its expression, since its energy is not colored by other planets functioning thru other signs. And since other houses are not involved, this planet is apt to concentrate its circumstantial manifestation in one emphasized area. There are no blending of principles found, and thus no apparent modification of the innate expression of that planet. Yet without aspects, planets are not encouraged to express themselves in the multifaceted manner of aspected planets. Dr. Dean, in a personal two year study, established that while unaspected planets do express themselves in an individual's character (he disclaims that they are "dumb notes" in the chart), they seem much harder to control in their expression than aspected planets. He also states that "the principle of an unaspected planet tends to be either switched on or off with no halfway measures allowed,and the native oscillates between on and off. Hence, "all or nothing" is another fair general discription. He concludes that because of this oscillation feature, the unaspected planet's strength is very difficult to ascertain. http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/dde3467b-df04-4a45-94c8-7aeb8e91e741

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posted February 21, 2012 02:27 PM              

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Originally posted by maira:
For some reason, your post posted on the "soulmate from hell" thread.

Imo, MJ was a Gemini ascendant. Your comment about pedophilia does not deserve an answer.

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Where did you get this info? I got this from astrotheme which is usually a very reliable source.

posted February 21, 2012 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by maira:
For some reason, your post posted on the "soulmate from hell" thread.

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posted February 21, 2012 02:32 PM            

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Basil Fearrington rectifies to 11:53 PM in "Astrology of the Famed," writing in a footnote of the Introduction that "I had many opportunities to observe Michael but could not get close enough to ask him about his time of birth." On 12/31/1998, Fearrington emailed the statement that "I had occasion, while playing in the opening act for the very last Jackson tour to ask Michael what his time of birth was. He said "I will tell you as I told Jackie Onassis, all I know is that it was late in the evening, definitely after 10:30 PM."

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posted February 21, 2012 02:55 PM              

on this site they show three different charts and times with theories
http://celebrityastrologyblog.com/2009/08/10/michael -jackson-lives-investigating-his-birth-time-introduction-and-synastry/

this site seems interesting in rectifying his chart (which is a specialist craft) using transits and prob solar arcs.

on wikki for exampel they have scorpio Asc http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Jackson,_Michael_(1958)

posted February 21, 2012 03:00 PM              

Moon Quincunx Venus
“The frustration you experience in life often comes because you get what you ask for from other people (and life in general). Unfortunately, what you ask for isn't what you want. Partly, you are slowly learning better communication skills, and partly you are learning to understand your own deeper cravings as they are. You see the unacknowledged and undigested parts of your sensitivity and creativity present in others, but, these are really projections that you have to own within your self if you are to change for the better.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

“shows that you have a low opinion of your personal needs and give a greater priority to persons whom you feel obligated to. The only problem here is that this process goes on and on. Your reaction to people is unbalanced and illogical. If you can detach yourself from emotional considerations, you will be able to logically decide how far your obligations go and to what extent you should expect others to make concessions to you. You need to develop greater self respect in order to earn the respect of the people you deal with”
From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

now THIS sounds interesting

posted February 21, 2012 03:03 PM              

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
^I like that one better. The Mars in Twelfth kinda appeals to me, as does the pretty much unaspected Moon. Gemini rising seems pretty solid.

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posted February 21, 2012 03:12 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
so did you miss the square to saturn and quincunx to venus?

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posted February 21, 2012 03:29 PM              

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
I don't count minor aspects in regards to unaspected planets, but no, I did not miss those (hence why I said "pretty much" unaspected).

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posted February 21, 2012 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
see, this is the thing, quincunx are not minor aspects, for me and something is either unaspected or it's not you can't have a *well pretty much* or *half or nearly unaspected* its ridiculous...

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posted February 21, 2012 03:51 PM              

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
LOL "half...unaspected". That one made me chuckle, but anyways! I wasn't saying it was unaspected or I wouldn't have included the "pretty much". Like like like, if a planet's only aspect was a conjunction to another planet, that first planet isn't unaspected, but I'd call it "nearly unaspected" (or something to that end), ya see? c:

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