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Topic: House meanings
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1561 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 22, 2012 06:40 PM
there seems to be some confusion about what the houses mean and sometimes I see too much emphasis say put on 5th house being solely for romance, BUT it means much much more than this.... quote:
First House The first house represents the physical plane of experience that deals with the totality of the individual. It represents the physical body in general and the general constitution. It is a very significant house in that it deals with what others pick up about you; that all important first impression. It represents some of the very early childhood experiences that shaped your self image and your outlook on life. Look at planets in this house and/or it's cusp ruling planet to get a feel for the individual life approach. The first house corresponds to Aries and so any planets in this house function with some underlying Aries style. Additionally, the first house corresponds to Mars and thus also represents our aggression, motivation, survival modes and self-interest. Second House The second house deals with the physical plane of existence with regards to what you have in the material sense. Money, money you earn, debts, and possessions, especially those you value highly. It is also your value system in general and your personal feelings of self worth. In other words, what you can allow yourself to have, based on what you feel you deserve. For example; are life options few because of lack of cash? Do you spend every penny you have and then some because you don't really feel you deserve to have money? Attitudes pro and con about money and material goodies are found here. This is the house of liberty. This refers to the liberty and options in life that having a secure financial picture produces. The second house corresponds to Taurus and so any planets in this house function with some underlying Taurus style. Additionally, the second house, also represents our personal likes or dislikes, deep emotions and attachments. Third House The third house deals with the physical plane area that includes close relatives in general, especially bothers and sisters. Elementary school experiences and our first teachers other than mom and dad. It represents individuals that affect our lives by close proximity. Thus, city life, the community we live in and our neighbors fall under the auspices of the third house. It's also short trips and local modes of transportation such as cars, buses, city rail systems, etc. Since the natural ruler Mercury is such a busy fellow, this house also represents reading, networking, writing, letters, small scale advertising, telephones, radios and any other form of communication. The third house corresponds to Gemini and so any planets in this house function with some underlying Gemini style. Additionally, the second house also represents teaching, education, our mentality, the realm of ideas, variety, duality and adaptability. Fourth House On the physical plane, the fourth house is primarily associated with our home base and the mother. However, not everyone had the influence of a mother and in this case the fourth house can be relied on to bring insights into our childhood upbringing and the environment we were raised in. The foundation which was laid for our emotional stability and ability to cope with challenges later in life may be revealed by studying the condition of the fourth house. One's home, real estate and property concerns, domestic issues, our private life and family in general are fourth house domains. The fourth house corresponds to Cancer and so any planets in this house function with some underlying Cancer style. Additionally, the fourth house also represents our sense of security, self-protectiveness, our nurturing ability vs. our need to be nurtured and instinctive emotional responses. Fifth House
The fifth house is mainly associated with all things pertaining to the creativity which allows you to be recognized as successful in whatever area your heart directs you to, not just the creativity that is commonly associated with artistic pursuits, although those areas are found here also. The resulting attention and praise you may receive from fifth house activities feeds the heart and soul of your inner child. Thus the fifth house rules children in general, as well as children you may someday have yourself. The fifth house rules hobbies, leisure time activities, play and recreation, and all forms of entertainment. Gambling, taking risks and financial speculation fall under the fifth house umbrella, as well. Since the fifth house and Leo corresponds to the heart, this house also represents the area of love, romantic ventures, and dating. Note that a certain element of risk exists when one decides to play the "game" of love. Why do some peaceful dating relationships fall apart when a couple marries? Or, on the other hand why do some couples fight continuously while dating and settle down once married? Look at the fifth to see how a person is when dating. As soon as one marries, the energy shifts to the seventh house and that is where insight into the above questions are often found. The fifth house corresponds to Leo and so any planets in this house function with some underlying Leo style. Additionally, the fifth house also represents our creative potential, false vs. true pride, our own will, getting recognition and the heart's desires. Sixth House The sixth house represents the area of work. To expand this idea further, we can include our employees if we have them and co-workers. The work found in the sixth house is work that is necessary, and so everyday chores and daily routines are to be found here, along with service to others and volunteer work. Service to others can run the gamut from nurses to politicians. Politicians often have an active sixth house. Jobs that we take to survive are also described by the sixth house. This is the house of physical labor as well. In order to be able to use our body to perform physical labor, we must take care of it and so the sixth house is also diet, your attitude towards food, health issues and personal hygiene. The sign Virgo suggests discrimination and so these traits are useful when we're making decisions about what to put into our bodies. Small animals, the weather and clothing are other sixth house areas. An area that doesn't get much attention is the sixth house relation to old relatives in general. One astrologer I know reads it as "family karma." It does seem to be a valid definition. The sixth house corresponds to Virgo and so any planets in this house function with some underlying Virgo style. Additionally, the sixth house also represents categorizing and order, worry and concern, self-improvement and using powers of discernment. Seventh House
Since the first house represents you; the seventh house being directly opposite the first is other people in general. Look at the seventh house for clues about what other people send out to you based on what you send out via your first house? Committed relationships are found here, along with the contracts and legal obligations which often form them, though there are exceptions to this rule. For instance, best friends form a kind of committed relationship that exists outside of legal documents. Marriage and business partners are legal commitments. Here also, is where we find those who might openly oppose us. Someone who is willing to take you to court to file a lawsuit against you, must do so openly as opposed to behind the scenes. Therefore, lawsuits are a seventh house area. Again, as with legal commitments, this opposition may not always take the form of an actual lawsuit. Traits from your first house that need to be balanced are often acted out by those who are opposite to us. For example; a Libra rising person who is too willing to please, may pull in aggressive or selfish partners, shown by the Aries seventh house cusp. If you repress a particular trait, then that too is often acted out for us by our closest partners. The seventh house corresponds to Libra and so any planets in this house function with some underlying Libra style. Additionally, the seventh house also represents giving and receiving and balance of power issues. Eighth House Several areas fall under the rule of the eighth house. Sex and sexual intimacy are eighth house matters. Note the word intimate. The eighth house may reveal one's ability to share deep, intimate bonding with another person. Because of this, the eighth house is also connected to the popular notion of meeting one's soul-mate. The eighth house is the house of major lifestyle changes. Whatever planets fall into this house will be completely transformed in some way and the individual's approach to the things represented by that planet emerge drastically altered. Surgery is associated with the eighth house. Death and all matters pertaining to death belong to the eighth house. Inheritances, other people's money in general and the spouses money are eighth house matters. If the seventh house is equivalent to the partners first house in your chart, then your eighth house represents their second house and thus, their finances. Support from others both financial and moral and the value system of others are eighth house issues. The occult is normally associated with the eighth house. In this case, occult refers to the manipulation of natural or psychic forces in order to produce desired outcomes. Mysteries, magic, secrets, ulterior motives and the investigation of these things are all eighth house matters. The eighth house corresponds to Scorpio and so any planets in this house function with some underlying Scorpio style. Additionally, the eighth house also represents extreme conditions, drastic changes, as well as, control and power issues. Ninth House
The Ninth house represents the development of the mind. Here we find all things related to higher learning, such as universities, professors, and continuing education programs. The ninth house is really like third house matters expanded. Life philosophies, religion, gurus, preachers, spiritual experiences, your ideas about God and belief systems of any kind belong to the ninth house. The religious aspect of the ninth house is generally more orthodox and dogmatic in nature. Foreign people, places, languages and things are ninth house areas, as well as long journeys and visits overseas. Here in the ninth is where we also find the great outdoors, country life, nature, getting away from it all, large animals, sports and athletic pursuits. First spouse in-laws reside here, too. Large scale publishing and big time advertising campaigns are also ruled by the ninth house. The ninth house is also courts of law, judges and the judicial system in general. The ninth house corresponds to Sagittarius and so any planets in this house function with some underlying Sagittarius style. Additionally, the ninth house represents expansion of anything, wanting freedom, and moral codes and ethics. Tenth House
In the tenth house we find one's primary career goals. The career found in the tenth house is what we would prefer to be known for vs. the sixth house, where we take certain jobs out of necessity. Hence, the tenth house is also described as one's fame, reputation, honor and highest achievements. It's also the boss; either your attitude towards the authority of others, or you as the authority. When you think of the tenth house, think of traditional institutions that have withstood the test of time. Government and political aims naturally fall into the domain of the tenth house. The tenth house is the public eye vs. the fourth which is your private life. Traditional astrology teaches us that the tenth house is the house that represents the father, based on the fourth house as mother and the tenth being opposite the fourth represents her spouse. I have often found that an accurate description of the father is described by the fifth house. In fact, astrologers have varying opinions concerning which house represents which parent, with some believing that the tenth is mother and the fourth is father. Stick with the traditional meaning to start and experiment if you wish with the other ideas on this matter. The tenth house corresponds to Capricorn and so any planets in this house function with some underlying Capricorn style. Additionally, the tenth house represents taking responsibility, and the rewards of resolving karmic issues. Eleventh House Traditionally the eleventh house is related to friendships and acquaintances, though generally not as close as those we consider to be best friends. A less considered aspect of these relationships, but one that I have found to be true is the following; that because of the ancient rulership of Saturn, the friendships found in the eleventh house often have a kind of "karmic alliance" tone to them. These types of relationships form in order to evolve both parties, based on past life issues together. Our personal hopes and wishes is another eleventh house area. Groups of people in general, especially those groups which have a common bond or goal are found in the eleventh house. This can include, humanitarian causes, clubs and social organizations of any kind. Science, technology, computers, airplanes and all things that represent either ideas that are ahead of the times, or progress for mankind are eleventh house areas. This is the house of ingenious ideas and new inventions. Some of these new ideas upset long held traditional viewpoints and so this is the house of the revolutionary. The individual who may be forced into a kind of self imposed isolation because he finds it difficult to march to the same drumbeat as everyone else. This could also refer to the leader who has the ability to inspire action in others, and yet because he is the leader, he feels inside that he must maintain a kind of solitary detachment. In this case, intimate or deeply personal entanglements are simply too messy for those who must manage large groups of people. The eleventh house corresponds to Aquarius and so any planets in this house function with some underlying Aquarius style. Additionally, the eleventh house represents bizarre circumstances, being or feeling different from the "norm", rebelliousness, and unexpected events. Twelfth House
Here in the twelfth house we find areas of life that tend to place one away from the rest of society. Hence, this house is most commonly known as the house of large public institutions, hospitals, prisons and asylums. Monasteries naturally fall into this category, as well. Sometimes this isolation is self imposed. A writer who needs long periods of uninterrupted time is an example of self imposed isolation. A hospital stay is not usually a self imposed situation. You will often see the phrases behind-the-scenes or hidden from view used in connection with twelfth house matters. This covers a fairly large area of potential experiences. That which is purposefully deceptive as well as, actions taken for the sake of simply doing rather than for glory or recognition. The latter leading naturally to altruistic acts of helpfulness and kindness, in which the act itself is the sole reward. Hidden enemies are in the twelfth house as opposed to the open opposition in the seventh house. Any planets in this house may represent something that the individual either doesn't have a clear view of or doesn't want a clear view of. The edges of reality become blurred, allowing one to exist in the more ideal scenario that one creates on the mental plane. Or, in other cases, the use of addictive substances or self indulgent habits that allow a person to escape unpleasant realities for the time being, though never eliminating the source of pain is another possible manifestation of this reality avoidance syndrome. Traditionally this is the house of suffering and self undoing. You’ve probably seen this already. What exactly does it mean? It means this. How do you tangle up your own web? Look at planets in this house and the sign on the twelfth house cusp. Do you avoid reality? Do you lack boundaries with respect to these things? And what about the suffering part? Do the answers to any of the former create problems for you? Does guilt, repression, or self-doubt play a role? This is also the house of spiritual inspiration, cosmic consciousness and enlightenment. Addicts who join support groups are often strongly encouraged to put their faith in a higher power. Even those who doubt the existence of God, can find comfort in tuning into the notion of a higher power. The spirituality found in the twelfth house is more in tune with what some might call "Universal Consciousness." Religious dogma is dissolved along with the boundaries that separate us from other dimensions. Psychic channeling and miraculous healing are higher potentials found in the twelfth house. The twelfth house corresponds to Pisces and so any planets in this house function with some underlying Pisces style. Additionally, the twelfth house represents the influence of past lives, forgiveness, atonement and mysterious disappearances.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houses.htm house meanings http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/houses.php http://www.astrologyzine.com/what-is-a-house-in-astrology.shtml http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoundation/BookKarma&NewDirections.htm http://www.gotohoroscope.com/houses-in-chart.html http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h1.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology) http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_house2_e.htm http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houses.htm
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Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 218 From: place in.., fl, usa Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 22, 2012 06:50 PM
Because SAGMC you help everyone on LL so much, I will now try my best to return my gratitude. From "THE ONLY ASTROLOGY BOOK YOU'LL EVER NEED" by Joanna Martine Woolfolk, PG 295 "FIFTH HOUSE--- This is the house of Creativity and Sex. The Fifth house rules over everything you do for pleasue and to express yourself creatively. Your sexual nature (the most basic creative urge in your psyche) is a large part of its domain. Children and the joy you recieve from them are governed by this house. The 5th house also relates to entertainment, holidays, amusements, and the arts. It rules love affairs, new undertakings in life, speculation and gambles, and games of chance. It is the house that express your artistic talents as well as your ability to enjoy yourself in life. In childhood, pets and playmates are part of this house, for it holds sway over all the things to which you instinctively give affection. This is the house of your heart." THE EVERYTHING ASTROLOGY BOOK by Jenni Kosarin pg 92 "House 5: Children and Creativity. Pleasureable pursuits, creative outlets, children (the 1st born child particularly), love affairs, sex for pleasure. UNDERSTANDING THE BIRTH CHART -ASTROLOGY by Kevin Burk, pg 178 "THE FIFTH HOUSE- The fifth house is the party room. It's where we go here when it's time to let our hair down and have fun. All forms of creativity, self-expression, games, speculation, and gambling are found in the fifth house. Oh, and sex is in the fifth house, too. (and so are children). The fifth house relates to love affairs- any romantic relationship that does not involve the contractual commitment or where the individuals don't live under the same room. (Once two people either get married or move in together, it becomes a seventh-house relationship.) So where we go when we want to feel special and unique. Everything we exprience in the fifth house makes us feel good--both in general, and about ourselves as individuals in particular." BE YOUR OWN ASTROLOGER by Paul Wade pg 64 "This house covers fun, holidays, hobbies, pets, recreation, sport and speculation. Creativity in the broadest sense, children as a creative act, and romance as a true expression of ourselves all find a place."
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Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 218 From: place in.., fl, usa Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 22, 2012 07:17 PM
PLANETS IN HOUSES by Robert Pelletier pg 130"The fifth house shows your desire to express yourself in some particular way. it provides the ingredients you need for creative expression that is visible extension of yourself. This can occur through loving someone (This is very much Desiring Shadows. She is a sun/merucry/venus/true node in the 5th, & she makes sure friends know when shes dating the weirdest, most unique guy out there! XD Lolz.) , giving birth to a child, painting, writing, acting in a play or being completely engaged in sports. However the department refers only to your raw talent and potential for creative self-expression. By itself, it allows you to indulge in pleasureable activities and, in a sense, to remain a child at heart. Through the affairs of this house you endeavor to become all that you potentially are and to be appreciated for your talents or gifts. The preceding houses become incorporated in the circumstances of the fifth; your ambition to excel, which comes from the first, requires the resources of the second, the reasoning facult of the third, the sensitivity of the fourth, and the creative inspiration of the fifth to produce results. By using the 5th house properly, u can have much potential to the fullest of your career. A negative attitude toward the potentials of the 5th house can seriously distract you from accomplishing your objectives, if you are so fascinated with temporary pleasures that you neglect to develop your creativity. Future goals and objectives are intimately linked to the fifth house, and unless you develop your potential into usuable skills, you may never gain the reward that can result from them in the eleventh house, which opposes the fifth. IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 218 From: place in.., fl, usa Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 22, 2012 07:19 PM
You meant all of the houses in general?FAIL ON MY PART. Well, atleast you got to learn extensively about the awesome fifth house............ IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 2876 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted February 22, 2012 07:25 PM
no wonder i like the city i have jupiter in h3.why is the 6th family karma? so for health we look at h1 and h6? never knew h8 was surgery. could afflicted planets here show a plastic surgery addict with new bewbs every year? IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Knowflake Posts: 348 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 22, 2012 07:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Desiring Shadows: You meant all of the houses in general?FAIL ON MY PART. Well, atleast you got to learn extensively about the awesome fifth house............
XD that was greatness IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 218 From: place in.., fl, usa Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 22, 2012 08:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: XD that was greatness
Lolz. Thanks. IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1561 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 23, 2012 09:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Desiring Shadows: Lolz. Thanks.
Well done. It's nice to see someone other than myself is capable of doing to reading and research I also think that 5th cover, friends of the heart and self employment. 8th house is sex and conception.. The Eighth House - conception “The eighth house covers sex, death, and other people's resources. Most beginning astrologers question how these areas of life are related, and the explanation offers insight into some of life's most intriguing activities. The lives of others impact our lives on a moment-to-moment basis. Every human interaction engages the mental, emotional, material or spiritual resources of at least one other person. Sexual response and sexual expression form a fundamental area for us to cultivate the spiritual connection with others through the physical connection.” http://www.llewellyn.com/encyclopedia/article/130 “deepest fears, obsessions, denied dreams, ability to love and care for children, sexual hang ups, obsession/relationship with money, need to exploit others, length and breadth of vanity, secret desire to rule the world, {Or at least, your world and everyone in it} and every religious neurotic tendency you could ever invent, relate to, dispose or crave. According to traditional astrology the 8th house is the precarious domain of sex, death and money. But, it has been my experience that the 8th house goes much deeper than these obvious realities” http://www.articlesbase.com/astrol ogy-articles/face-the-boogey-man-your-incessant-spectator-mind-and-how-it-works-8th-house-deal-949018.html “One way to read a birth chart is to start with the Eighth House, where conception begins. During the nine months of pregnancy, the cycle travels from the beginning of the Eighth House to the ascendant, which represents the moment of birth, the baby's first breath” http://www2.canada.com/topics/lifestyle/astrology/health/pregnancy/index.html another little gem you probably wouldn't read in a book is ruler of 11th (hopes and wishes) IF retrograde (like mine) may not come to fruition... Uranus in 8th can sometimes stop conception. Could be something unsual about conception, it could take along time OR be artificual insemination. Also they can go long periods without sex and then when they get it become insatiable... Going back to 5th house, Here we also look for acting talent. Leo Asc, sun, moon or planets in 5th house acting ability http://www.astrotheme.com/celebrites/ http://classiclegendbooks.com/birthd...birthdays.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=25997 http://art-astrology.blogspot.com/20...ny-curtis.html http://www.astrologychart.eu/actor/ http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008598.html Let's not forget Leo make excellent leaders, inovators, by on the negative side can be arrogant and drama queens and throw the dummy out on occasions...and they 'really' like to be centre of attention. Ideal for acting, whether amatuer or professional. other tidbits...you won't find in books homosexual tendencies - lot of air espec libra and uranus aspects. Any mutable moon and can love more than one person at same time. mutable on Angles can marry more than once. Neptune in first prone to exaggeration (play acting) or mimics, some comedians have this mercury in first in taurus - good singing voice lack of aspects - loner type 3 or more quincunx tend to analyse themselves very deeply and never really stop looking for answers least sociable signs, scorpio, cappi and aries. Cappi because it's a workaholic and tight with it's money. Scorpio as it doesn't want others knowing it's business. venus opp moon, poss ill health and stress. in man's chart suggests problems with mother. Whoever they are attracted to may not fulfil them emotionally and vice versa mars in cancer in 12th, may use physical energy to destroy family. Cancer will interfere with family whatever house, but worst place is 12th. ------------------ I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1561 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 23, 2012 09:55 AM
I've just updated this thread with titbits you won't find in textbooks.Also my own neptune singleton.... http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/postings.cgi Basic astrology forum, retrogrades,Unaspected & SingletonsIP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1561 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 23, 2012 10:02 AM
Work and 6th house I just found this site/link which looks directly at 6th house cusp, planets, rulers etc. very enlightening... http://www.astrologyinserbia.com/e/index.html "My first day at work cusp of the 6th house” You can even turn the chart so 6th house cusp then becomes the Asc and read the chart for work, it's called looking at 'derived houses' Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm You can also play around with *derived houses* What this means is turn the chart, so for example, put your desc as Asc and this will describe your partner. so any planets in 7th become your partners 1st, your 8th house become his 2nd house of earning capacity and so on... http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1561 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 23, 2012 10:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: no wonder i like the city i have jupiter in h3.why is the 6th family karma? so for health we look at h1 and h6? never knew h8 was surgery. could afflicted planets here show a plastic surgery addict with new bewbs every year?
Health is indeed 1st and 6th but you can also look at POF Part of fortune as this can be linked to health matters to. POF http://www.astrotherapy.eu/ParsFortunae.htm http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-5210.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpOVfJmEFH4 http://www.arlenekramer.net/astrology8.asp last one is POF conj planets “However, in the case of both significations one must keep in mind that no one indication in the chart, not even the Part of Fortune, can be taken by itself as a total indicator of any area of life. For health one must also look at the Ascendant, its ruler, the Moon and its ruler. Also the sixth and eighth houses as indicators of illness and death respectively have strong indications for health. For material prosperity one should also look at the second house, the tenth house, and their rulers.” http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_fortune_e.htm “The fortune indicated by this part is not necessarily materialistic or even tangible, though it can be. It depends on the sign and house location of the Part of Fortune. The benefit can be on the physical, intellectual, emotional, and/or spiritual plane of experience. In all cases it is through the cultivation and expression of this point that one will experience harmony and a sense of well-being.” http://www.astroresources.com/fortune.htm “The Part of Fortune represents worldly success, and is associated with the physical body and health as well. It can be indicative of the career or vocation. Worldly success and prosperity are associated with the Part of Fortune, and both its sign and house placement suggests innate abilities and talents--areas of life and qualities that are expressed naturally.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/partoffortune.html just found a site for calculating this and many more Parts or Lots -- http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php "Some formulas listed here have both an AM and PM version. The PM version is a reverse of the AM version and when indicated, persons born in the daytime (Sun in 7th - 12th houses) should use the AM formula while persons born in the evening (Sun in 1st - 6th houses) should use the PM formula. Sometimes it's best to try both formulas." Check the placement of the Sun in the chart, it must be sensibly placed relative to the horizon for the given time of day. For a day birth, the Sun must be above the horizon. From astro.com explanations on POF We use different formulae for Pars Fortunae for a day birth than for a night birth. You can change this rule with an option in the extended chart selection. The day formula is: ASC + Moon - Sun The night formula: ASC + Sun - Moon Astrologers differ in their views about which formula to use for Pars Fortunae. If you're interested in in-depth information, please read the article "The Lot or Part of Fortune" by Robert Hand in our "Understanding Astrology" section. IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1561 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 23, 2012 10:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by Desiring Shadows: [B]PLANETS IN HOUSES by Robert Pelletier pg 130
following on from this here are my versions of outer planets in houses..Basic astrology forum discussing Saturn in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000660.html To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology…. Basic astrology forum discussing Neptune in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000661.html Basic astrology forum discussing Uranus in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000662.html Basic astrology forum discussing Pluto in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000663.html To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….
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littlecloud Moderator Posts: 1304 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted February 23, 2012 10:43 AM
I have a hard time seeing the 8 house as one for conception for the simple fact that gestation is 9 months not 5. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 296 From: starcity,saskatchewan,canada Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 23, 2012 09:34 PM
What if u have nothing in the 5th except for pallas athena? IP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 1304 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted February 23, 2012 09:46 PM
You look at 5th house Ruler and aspects it makesIP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1561 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 24, 2012 04:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by littlecloud: I have a hard time seeing the 8 house as one for conception for the simple fact that gestation is 9 months not 5.
why are you associating gestation with 5?? do you mean house 5? which simply describes your children if they are born and survive. ------------------ I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1561 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 24, 2012 04:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by ariesdragon: What if u have nothing in the 5th except for pallas athena?
We all have some empty houses, it's not a 'biggie' it just means that your focus in not a major concern in THAT house, it's elsewhere..... quote:
Pallas in the 5th House: This is good for your creativity. Artists with this placement would tend to have a good sense of form. In sports and games, Pallas in the 5th house is good for working out strategy. In matters of gambling and speculation, there will be a tendency to find patterns rather than just blindly rolling the dice. When it comes to children, this placement can make it easier to think up all sorts of new games and activities for them. http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Pallas21.2.html
http://astrofix.net/2010/06/19/pallas-athene-in-houses/ http://www.churchofasphodel.org/articles/pallas_the_genderbender.html I'm sorry I don't have links for athene.. hope this helps ------------------ I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 2012 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 24, 2012 05:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by SaggiMC: why are you associating gestation with 5?? do you mean house 5? which simply describes your children if they are born and survive.
I think she may have been meaning it like this: appr. conception and gestation: 9 months / timeunits birth: 1st house. 9 houses before birth. The 9th house BEFORE the 1st house is the 5th house. That is at least how I understood what she was saying. If I have misunderstood that, I apologize.
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