posted March 04, 2012 09:48 AM            

What are the main differences between a square and an opposition in the natal chart? And do they work the same way in synastry?

I've always thought that oppositions are less problematic than squares, but how exactly do they play out? Do they indicate internal conflict or conflict with an external source?

When I see a Venus-Mars opposition, for example, I don't know how it is different from a Venus-Mars square, etc.

posted March 04, 2012 10:27 AM            

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posted March 04, 2012 10:35 AM            

However, in synastry. A man's Virgo venus squared my Gemini Venus. I feel things the clearest on my Venus because it is unaspected. This was an immovable thing. I could feel that locking of energy there with him.

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posted March 04, 2012 10:44 AM            

With Square, you can never satisfy fully both planets.
With opposition, Only one can be fully satisfied.

posted March 04, 2012 10:55 AM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
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[b]With Square, you can never satisfy fully both planets.
With opposition, Only one can be fully satisfied.

Opposition is not that bad since involving planets are in friend elements. But it is not valid for square[/B]

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Brilliant way to put it Mert

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posted March 04, 2012 04:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Doux
The way I look at it is that in the opposition one would yin/yang between opposite poles so one would BE on one side or the other at any given time. With the square, one seems locked in to a non movement. What do you think?
I am speaking about the natal here.

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Yes I agree with you.

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
Shortly

[b]With Square, you can never satisfy fully both planets.
With opposition, Only one can be fully satisfied.

Opposition is not that bad since involving planets are in friend elements. But it is not valid for square[/B]

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It seems to me that it is still possible to integrate them both somehow, especially in an opposition. Maybe by finding the midpoint and trying to integrate that energy.

posted March 04, 2012 04:21 PM            

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posted March 04, 2012 04:23 PM            

Oppositions show the need to make a choice, one or the other,
while the Square shows where a compromise is needed.

posted March 04, 2012 04:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Doux
List everything you are concerned about.Is it natal?Is is synastry? I can't follow

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In general, but especially in natal.

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
The difference between Squares and Oppositions?

Oppositions show the need to make a choice, one or the other,
while the Square shows where a compromise is needed.

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Hmm I see a bit more clearly, but still, don't you think there can be a "middle ground" in oppositions, too? In natal, I mean. Like a way to integrate both energies instead of just choosing one of them?

Thanks for responding by the way !

posted March 04, 2012 05:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
So for example, back to the Venus Mars square, how would that be different from an opposition?
I suppose with the opposition, one may identify either with Mars or with Venus, depending on the situation.
But what about the square? Will they express both energies or be unable to express them at all? I'm confused.

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Opposition often manifests through projection. So,if one finds Venus energy more manageable,or simply expresses it rather than Mars' they could project Mars energy towards outter end,partner,creative work. But,Venus and Mars,by being naturally opposing and complementary at the same time (main male and female principle),in opposition,their energy can turn out to be fortunate.

posted March 04, 2012 05:33 PM            

I only have one opposition, but it's wide.
I still think it's easier than the squares though, there's an exchange between the planets.

posted March 04, 2012 06:43 PM            

And yeah, that sounds plausible to me.
More often than not, we identify with our personal planets and the outer planets are manifested by other people/circumstances.
I think it especially happens with oppositions.. but squares can play out that way too.

But with two personal planets in hard aspect, maybe it's just an internal conflict? Like Moon-Mercury square, or Moon-Venus square, it's more about what *you* think/feel inside than about what happens outside of you.. For example you may have a hard time choosing between reason and feelings, needs and desires, etc.

posted March 04, 2012 07:01 PM            

Phew, consider yourself lucky, girl

Ok gotta go now, time to go to bed! (it's late here.. acually it's already March 5 here )