posted April 05, 2012 01:59 AM            

My MBTI Scores: INTJ
Dominant: Introverted Intuition
Auxilliary: Extraverted Thinking
Tertiary: Introverted Feeling
Inferior: Extraverted Sensing

My Enneagram Type: 1w2 - The Reformer (The Helper)
Sum/Moon/Asc - Virgo/Aries/Aries

What I discovered in my case was, there is a perfect correlation between these results.

For example, "The Reformer" is akin to both Virgo and Aries, and The Helper loosely corresponds to Virgo

In the same way, INTJ is pretty much a personification for Virgo blended in a mixer with Aries. :-)

Below is a video that describes INTJ. I thought he was literally referring to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCVcve2CYwg&feature=relmfu

So, I am interested to know the following 3 things from you

posted April 05, 2012 02:07 AM            

I know those theories inside and out, and actually have explored this in the past. It's hard to make a linear pattern between astro placements and types. However, it "makes sense" when you corralate them on an individual level most of the time. There will also be the problem that around 1/2 of the people you poll will not have their type accurate for many reasons. The absolute best fullproof way to type someone is by interview. Online tests aren't reliable, but can be a good starting point for sure.

As for me:
MBTI/JCF: INFJ
Enneagram: 1w2
Sun/Moon/Asc: Taurus/Scorpio/Libra

I have had my types confirmed many times over across nearly every possible way imaginable and I fit both very well. I personally identify better with 1w2, but I still identify with both types strongly.

posted April 05, 2012 02:07 AM            

EDIT! Scorpio Sun, Capricorn Moon, Virgo Rising.

posted April 05, 2012 02:08 AM            

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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
I am VERY versed in enneagram and MBTI (more properly Jungian Cognitive functions). Been studying the theories for at least 5 years now. I used to run a forum specefically for...

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posted April 05, 2012 02:13 AM            

Asc: 29 degrees Virgo (Mercury in the 8th)
Sun: Taurus
Moon: Aquarius

posted April 05, 2012 03:02 AM            

MBTI- either INFJ or INFP (INFJ came more on the tests)

enneagram- either 2w3 or 4w3 (but im kind of new to the subject and have a to look into it deeper and do the test a couple more times)

libra sun
leo moon
capricorn ASC with neptune and uranus conjuncting it

posted April 05, 2012 03:34 AM            

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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
EVERY year since I was 17 I retook that test hoping for a new type but I was always consistently an INTJ :\

Asc: 29 degrees Virgo (Mercury in the 8th)
Sun: Taurus
Moon: Aquarius

And to go with your INTJ theory I have a fire singleton with my Venus in Aries

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LOL!

i think it is very taurean.

asc scorpio
sun taurus
moon leo

posted April 05, 2012 03:42 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
i have been trying to do the MBTI test for 2 years now but still i have no conclusive anwser

MBTI- either INFJ or INFP (INFJ came more on the tests)

enneagram- either 2w3 or 4w3 (but im kind of new to the subject and have a to look into it deeper and do the test a couple more times)

libra sun
leo moon
capricorn ASC with neptune and uranus conjuncting it

i can see how type 4 fits in with the placements cause i belive that moon in leo and uranus conjunct ASC could lead to a person to belive that he is uniqe and also appear like it and the cap ASC giving an air of competence and superiority to strengthen the effect

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This is classic.

It's extremely common to see this split between INFJ and INFP on test results. You can only be one however. From what I have experienced, around 75% of those who test this way are infact INFP's. Much more so if you identify as an E4, as those two have a lot of commonality.

Answer this, and this may help sort out which is more likely your type:

Ultimately, do you make decisions based on the values of others and the group? Or, do you stick to an internal moral code that dictates how you should decide? Elaborate on this in detail. You may feel both are true, but one will be more predominate in yourself. Also, when I say "decisions" I mean that in a broad sense. From the trival/mundane ones that appear when conversing with someone, to the major ones throughout life.

posted April 05, 2012 04:08 AM            

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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
This is classic.

It's extremely common to see this split between INFJ and INFP on test results. You can only be one however. From what I have experienced, around 75% of those who test this way are infact INFP's. Much more so if you identify as an E4, as those two have a lot of commonality.

Answer this, and this may help sort out which is more likely your type:

Ultimately, do you make decisions based on the values of others and the group? Or, do you stick to an internal moral code that dictates how you should decide? Elaborate on this in detail. You may feel both are true, but one will be more predominate in yourself. Also, when I say "decisions" I mean that in a broad sense. From the trival/mundane ones that appear when conversing with someone, to the major ones throughout life.

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thinking about the question i found that i do take the values of other people ONLY when my decision is connected to those people (out of respect and care to their opinion) but decisions that relate mostly to me are made by my own moral code although i listen to others opinions (i just dont usually follow them)

so im stuck again XD

reading the descriptions of the types also lead me to nowhere but i belive i might be an INFP becuse in the description it was written that an INFP always finds something to like in a person and that completly me but the description still has some contradictions...

im sure ill get there anyway

posted April 05, 2012 05:06 AM            

Your Personality is the Most Common (ISTJ)

Your personality type is disciplined, realistic, predictable, and honest.

posted April 05, 2012 05:16 AM            

it says that:
SJ=earth element
SP=fire
NT=air
NF=water

maybe we should post our dominant element as well to see if this matches up

posted April 05, 2012 05:22 AM            

My MBTI type is either INFJ or INFP

and my Enneagram type is either 6w5 or 5w4

(but it is really only a decision between these two / four, the scores for the others are really low).

Sun and ASC in Sagittarius
Moon in Aquarius

additional info:
Sun conjunct Mercury
ASC conjunct Neptune (and mars in 12th house)

dominant element (fire)
but the dispositors of my personal planets and ASC are all in water element:
Disp of Sun, Mercury, Mars, ASC is Jupiter in Pisces
Disp of Moon is Uranus in Scorpio
Disp of Venus is Saturn in Cancer

Tautomer,

the question to decide if someone is an INFJ or INFP is an interesting one and very difficult to answer for me.

I guess for me it depends on how important the issue I have to decide is for me and how much the group`s values contradict my own. Up to a point I can adapt myself easily; but if it threatens core values for me, that is where I draw the line and ultimatively would decide according to my personal values.

posted April 05, 2012 05:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I guess for me it depends on how important the issue I have to decide is for me and how much the group`s values contradict my own. Up to a point I can adapt myself easily; but if it threatens core values for me, that is where I draw the line and ultimatively would decide according to my personal values.

But quite honestly it hasn`t come that far very often, so it somewhat of a theoretical answer.

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posted April 05, 2012 06:09 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:

(also, @ doomlord, side note: am still thinking about emailing my chart to you, so I haven't forgotten! will get back to you on the Jupiter thread that I started or else on Personal Readings)

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im glad you still remember
il be honored to read your chart,if you wish of course

posted April 05, 2012 12:42 PM            

Ceridwen - You actually sound more like INFJ based off that. Additionally being an E6 or E5 makes INFJ more likely. They word is "up to a point I can adapt myself". INFJ's have the auxillary function Fe, extroverted feeling, and they make decisions based off what is best to benefit the group, and is generally quite compromizing. Despite you saying if it threatens your core values you buck, that doesn't apply hear. Reason being is most any type will do that. It's how it's dealt with that is important.

Also, the whole Kiersey temperment spread (SJ, SP, NT, NF) is not a good way to look at things because it does not follow a consistent pattern in regards to the cognitive functions.

As far as the difference between P and J that RegardesPluto desribed, that is mostly accurate, but a difficult way to judge someone. P and J is simply a denoter axis with the functions and not actually a "trait" persay. This is a better way to sort this between INFJ's and INFP's. The external world for an INFJ is far more linear and easily reasoned, explained and understood by others then their inner world. For INFP's it's the complete opposite. Their external world seems very dissorganized and lazifaire. Where as, their inner world is very ordered and easily reasoned, understood, and explained.

Hopefully that helps some! I've missed talking about this topic.