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Topic: Venus Retro People (in natal)
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L0veLess
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posted April 06, 2012 06:52 PM
  
Anybody have this??? Where is it what are its aspects etc... Do yu notice it in yurself? Does it effect you? Or perhaps a friend has this placement and you see it come out in them. Please explain.Mine is retro in Cap 4H conj my sun. It's got a wide conj. to saturn and its kinda quintile my moon and pluto and trine my asc. I mostly count it as just conj my sun though. I don't know if it's effecting me in some way. So I'm asking you guys to give examples so maybe i can find out how it effects me.  ------------------
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hskahn
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posted April 06, 2012 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by L0veLess:
Anybody have this??? Where is it what are its aspects etc... Do yu notice it in yurself? Does it effect you? Or perhaps a friend has this placement and you see it come out in them. Please explain.Mine is retro in Cap 4H conj my sun. It's got a wide conj. to saturn and its kinda quintile my moon and pluto and trine my asc. I mostly count it as just conj my sun though. I don't know if it's effecting me in some
way. So I'm asking you guys to give examples so maybi can find out how it effects me.
a dear astro friend of mine has venus retro in cap in the 6th. my take on this is that venus retro has to do with lessons about giving and receiving love. my friend did not receive Love from her parents and has had a series of difficult relationships with men. if i say that she has lessons to learn act giving and taking love she says that she knows all about this. it is an unconscious situation that is a little hard to deal with bec it's a little like playing hide and seek emotionally. but don't get frustrated. many people don't have to learn how to give and receive love but some do. i need to see more of your chart but i'm interested.------------------
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posted April 06, 2012 09:19 PM
According to this book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0877287015/ref=tmm_pap_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&qid=1333761595&sr=1-1&condition=used Venus retrograde in the natal reflects the misuse of one's grace/charm in lives past. The native used the Venus principle for self-service at the expense of others. If Venus is well-aspected, the person is being given a chance in this lifetime to redeem him/herself . If badly aspected, pretty much a lost cause. Get the book if you really want the full explanation, since my summary here is shoddy. IP: Logged |
hskahn
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Registered: Mar 2012
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posted April 06, 2012 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by L0veLess:
Anybody have this??? Where is it what are its aspects etc... Do yu notice it in yurself? Does it effect you? Or perhaps a friend has this placement and you see it come out in them. Please explain.Mine is retro in Cap 4H conj my sun. It's got a wide conj. to saturn and its kinda quintile my moon and pluto and trine my asc. I mostly count it as just conj my sun though. I don't know if it's effecting me in some
way. So I'm asking you guys to give examples so maybi can find out how it effects me.
a dear astro friend of mine has venus retro in cap in the 6th. my take on this is that venus retro has to do with lessons about giving and receiving love. my friend did not receive Love from her parents and has had a series of difficult relationships with men. if i say that she has lessons to learn act giving and taking love she says that she knows all about this. it is an unconscious situation that is a little hard to deal with bec it's a little like playing hide and seek emotionally. but don't get frustrated. many people don't have to learn how to give and receive love but some do. i need to see more of your chart but i'm interested.------------------
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JohnFKennedy
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posted April 06, 2012 10:16 PM
I've dated two Venus retrogrades in the past (one Scorpio and one Aquarius) and I doubt I'd ever do it again. I always felt they were mimicking phantom notions of what it was to be in a relationship rather than actually feeling the emotions as they came along. They both have a lot of issues when in a romantic context. Outside of it they're both incredibly cool and intelligent people. IP: Logged |
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posted April 06, 2012 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
I've dated two Venus retrogrades in the past (one Scorpio and one Aquarius) and I doubt I'd ever do it again. I always felt they were mimicking phantom notions of what it was to be in a relationship rather than actually feeling the emotions as they came along. They both have a lot of issues when in a romantic context. Outside of it they're both incredibly cool and intelligent people.
In a male chart, Venus reflects the kind of woman he thinks he's supposed to pursue. Given both of them have retrograde Venus, not surprising they'd go for a lunar Aquarian lol.
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posted April 06, 2012 10:26 PM
I'd have a hard time explaining these people. I've known two and had very bad experiences with them both. They try to come off as super confident, but when you get to know them you realize how messed up they are. Both were abusive and/or cruel.IP: Logged |
hskahn
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posted April 06, 2012 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
I've dated two Venus retrogrades in the past (one Scorpio and one Aquarius) and I doubt I'd ever do it again. I always felt they were mimicking phantom notions of what it was to be in a relationship rather than actually feeling the emotions as they came along. They both have a lot of issues when in a romantic context. Outside of it they're both incredibly cool and intelligent people.
i think this is what i was trying to say. Like my friend seems to have no feel for it. she used to often ask "what are the rules" for this situation. she was always reading oprah to find out the rules for dating. incredibly cool and intelligent--this fits, too. very in the head. hard to give good astro counseling for this. ------------------
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hskahn
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posted April 06, 2012 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
I've dated two Venus retrogrades in the past (one Scorpio and one Aquarius) and I doubt I'd ever do it again. I always felt they were mimicking phantom notions of what it was to be in a relationship rather than actually feeling the emotions as they came along. They both have a lot of issues when in a romantic context. Outside of it they're both incredibly cool and intelligent people.
i think this is what i was trying to say. Like my friend seems to have no feel for it. she used to often ask "what are the rules" for this situation. she was always reading oprah to find out the rules for dating.
incredibly cool and intelligent--this fits, too. very in the head. hard to give good astro counseling for this.
i think the delay in love is hard to avoid because it takes some time to have experiences that will help. but i think if a person is willing to trust that they don't know then that helps the learning process. i don't think it is hopeless and maybe two venus retros would be good together?
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hskahn
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posted April 06, 2012 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
I've dated two Venus retrogrades in the past (one Scorpio and one Aquarius) and I doubt I'd ever do it again. I always felt they were mimicking phantom notions of what it was to be in a relationship rather than actually feeling the emotions as they came along. They both have a lot of issues when in a romantic context. Outside of it they're both incredibly cool and intelligent people.
i think this is what i was trying to say. Like my friend seems to have no feel for it. she used to often ask "what are the rules" for this situation. she was always reading oprah to find out the rules for dating.
incredibly cool and intelligent--this fits, too. very in the head. hard to give good astro counseling for this.
i think the delay in love is hard to avoid because it takes some time to have experiences that will help. but i think if a person is willing to trust that they don't know then that helps the learning process. i don't think it is hopeless and maybe two venus retros would be good together?
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Ami Anne
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posted April 06, 2012 10:45 PM
I am very interested in Venus Retro as I don't have a good feel for it. If someone has it, I would love to hear from them!IP: Logged |
Pennylane
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posted April 06, 2012 11:25 PM
how do you know if your a venus retro?IP: Logged |
hskahn
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posted April 07, 2012 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am very interested in Venus Retro as I don't have a good feel for it. If someone has it, I would love to hear from them!
i only know one person with venus retro and she has been dying for a partner and always mis-chooses. she has a prospect now and he also has venus retro--maybe they will work it out. ------------------
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posted April 07, 2012 01:25 AM
Usually they are very desperate and try to play the part of the "cool guy", but are extreme dorks.Soft spoken, but very jealous and will rip your head off when they have the chance, if you **** them off. Don't give it to them. Run. Fast. IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted April 07, 2012 01:55 AM
Venus Retrograde in Scorpio...I don't even notice if there's any differences!  IP: Logged |
virgolotus
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posted April 07, 2012 02:09 AM
My good friend has Venus retro in Scorpio along with other planets in Scorpio..
I think she's just in love with the idea of being in love. She's extremely manipulative in attaining her desires by using her charm. She also cheated on her ex gf with about 14 other people (guys/girls) not having sex with all of them. :P She kept it a secret from her until the guilt made her confess.Her Venus squares Mars Leo ------------------
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hskahn
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Registered: Mar 2012
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posted April 07, 2012 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by Pennylane:
how do you know if your a venus retro?
retrogrades are indicated in the ephemeris and by a little R after the planet/degree/sign info if you have your chart computer-generated ------------------
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enchantress299
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posted April 07, 2012 11:41 AM
As per usual, this becomes a 'hate on those with this placement' thread instead of a forum for those who actually have the placement... I'm sorry that you all have had bad experiences with these people, but I can assure you that not all of us are manipulative, insecure, jealous, etc, etc, etc. Oh, AND I AM SICK OF HEARING HOW WE SCREWED PEOPLE OVER IN PAST LIVES AND NOW WE ARE PAYING FOR IT. I fully believe in past lives, but I think it is an improper assumption on anyone's part to tell me what my past lives were, thank you. It's not helpful to me in 'balancing my karma.' I have Venus retrograde and I have answered this question in other threads... And here's my answer again: quote:
Eh. I know I've said it before elsewhere on these boards, but I'll repeat it (because I'm too lazy to find the link).Venus retro is like watching everyone else move forward while you are standing still. It's an outside in mentality. For me to be successful in relationships and often with social graces, I have to actually THINK about it. It seems counter intuitive because it is. Otherwise I seem to blunder along in relationships without a clue or I simply don't try to have any relationship. I do better by observing what works for others first and then by trying to have my own experiences (and usually failing). I've gotten better over time, but it is very slow going. I always seem to think that my emotions show to everyone around me, but they don't, and I've had to learn better verbal communication skills when it comes to relationships... Otherwise I simply won't communicate. Ultimately, in me, it is marked as an incurable shyness when it comes to relationships (though I am very social and bold by nature). Think Raj from the Big Bang Theory. I'm not so bad I can't talk to guys... I just feel like I can't communicate romantic feelings a lot of times... And oh yes, alcohol helps.
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VenusDiSirius
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posted April 07, 2012 12:16 PM
^  Of course they are not messed up. They just blossom late. That doesn't make them cruel of what else written here. IP: Logged |
virgolotus
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posted April 07, 2012 12:44 PM
I'm just sharing for research purposes. Not at all bashing on them, I love my friend!  IP: Logged |
jcweimpw
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posted April 07, 2012 08:30 PM
I have to agree mostly with Enchantress. I always feel like I am on the outside, observing and not really participating in any relationship. I always seem to pick the wrong person to try to have a relationship with and I always get hurt. Each time it takes longer to recover.IP: Logged |
L0veLess
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Registered: Feb 2011
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posted April 08, 2012 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by hskahn:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by L0veLess:
[b]Anybody have this??? Where is it what are its aspects etc... Do yu notice it in yurself? Does it effect you? Or perhaps a friend has this placement and you see it come out in them. Please explain.Mine is retro in Cap 4H conj my sun. It's got a wide conj. to saturn and its kinda quintile my moon and pluto and trine my asc. I mostly count it as just conj my sun though. I don't know if it's effecting me in some
way. So I'm asking you guys to give examples so maybi can find out how it effects me.
a dear astro friend of mine has venus retro in cap in the 6th. my take on this is that venus retro has to do with lessons about giving and receiving love. my friend did not receive Love from her parents and has had a series of difficult relationships with men. if i say that she has lessons to learn act giving and taking love she says that she knows all about this. it is an unconscious situation that is a little hard to deal with bec it's a little like playing hide and seek emotionally. but don't get frustrated. many people don't have to learn how to give and receive love but some do. i need to see more of your chart but i'm interested.[/B][/QUOTE] suuure heres my chart 
I think I can give and receive love. Love and all that relationship stuff is hard for me though. I'm too paranoid hahah. To me everyone has some hidden agenda. I'm sure about my feelings but i'm not sure about other people's feelings. So that keeps me from expressing myself openly.
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L0veLess
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posted April 08, 2012 04:50 AM
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Originally posted by T:
I'd have a hard time explaining these people. I've known two and had very bad experiences with them both. They try to come off as super confident, but when you get to know them you realize how messed up they are. Both were abusive and/or cruel.
sheesh that sounds extreme haha IP: Logged |
L0veLess
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posted April 08, 2012 04:51 AM
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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
I always felt they were mimicking phantom notions of what it was to be in a relationship rather than actually feeling the emotions as they came along.
nicely said
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Lonake
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posted April 08, 2012 04:51 AM
Do you guys think Venus retro is a marker for being shy?IP: Logged |
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