posted April 19, 2012 07:51 AM            

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Originally posted by matt:
I had it 4 years ago. It changed my whole outlook on life.

I remember at the time that it felt like I was at boiling point; a total upheaval on every aspect of my life. In retrospect, I can honestly say I desperately needed this transit to move forward. I think that's what this transit encourages (albeit with intensity), to make you re-evaluate your life and make the much needed changes that you had come to realise when Pluto was causing disruption from your 12 house. In my case, Pluto transitting my 12 house is one aspect I am delighted I won't endure again; however, I'm very appreciative of the lessons the transit has tought me.

Now, I get to enjoy the changes in my life with much gusto as Pluto resides in my 1st and I feel I have full control of my life and my actions.

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posted April 19, 2012 08:08 AM            

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Originally posted by T:
I'm looking forward to it. Or maybe just looking forward to it moving out of my 12th house. :/ Has not been a good many years.

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Looking forward to it? Are you sadistic? lol Good luck!

When does it happen for you?

posted April 19, 2012 12:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Sashar:
Looking forward to it? Are you sadistic? lol Good luck!

When does it happen for you?

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Better to rip off the plaster - sometimes the agony is just in the lead-up.

I loved Uranus conjunct Mars, aspecting everything else that aspects Mars. I was scared of it when I first noticed it would be coming up in about a year (this was in 2002), but then realized that I couldn't do that to myself.

posted April 19, 2012 10:09 PM            

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So I was just wondering...what's it like having pluto in the 12th?I'll have that next year.

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For me, my whole life fell apart. I was betrayed by a close friend, my grades plummeted no matter what I did, and I felt completely lost and alone. I felt like I had no direction, which is a death sentence for a capricorn rising! My career goals changed dramatically and I moved across the country, leaving behind all of my family and friends. This was really difficult for me.

posted April 20, 2012 08:46 AM            

Sounds interesting? It's not. Not in the least, at least for someone like me who doesn't believe that something like that is even possible.

I look at what happened to me during that time of my life and see that Pluto is going to cross your ASC soon... and I just hope to heck either Pluto crossing mine didn't cause those things and/or yours is much more pleasant. <3

posted April 20, 2012 02:25 PM            

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Looking forward to it? Are you sadistic? lol Good luck!

When does it happen for you?

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Sashar, LOL well, any house has to be better than it being in the 12th house.

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At the risk of seeming odd, I wanted to add, during that time I was also convinced that I could occasionally catch snippets of other people's thoughts.

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I can do that too. And have psychic dreams. I bet there is a connection there.

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.. and I just hope to heck either Pluto crossing mine didn't cause those things and/or yours is much more pleasant. <3

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posted April 20, 2012 02:29 PM            

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I'm going through this transit (pluto conjunct ascendant) right now. I haven't noticed any changes so far. Hopefully, it won't be as bad as pluto transiting my 12th house. That was the worst!

For me, my whole life fell apart. I was betrayed by a close friend, my grades plummeted no matter what I did, and I felt completely lost and alone. I felt like I had no direction, which is a death sentence for a capricorn rising! My career goals changed dramatically and I moved across the country, leaving behind all of my family and friends. This was really difficult for me.

The last 1/3 of the transit isn't bad. Things are usually more settled by then. This transit will force you to get rid of anything unnecessary out of your life and force you to make very difficult decisions that you would rather not face. I never cried so much in my life as I did during this transit. It really sucked. Think of it as the "spring-cleaning" transit" where you get rid of the garbage in your life and figure out what you really need.

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Astra, i could have written that myself. Ive had a similar experience. It was the worst when it was squaring my moon, going back and forth over 29* Sag.

I've got a few more years until it finally hits my natal Asc exactly, then it will Rx a few degrees and come back to hit it again. I'm sure I'll start to really feel the conjunction aspect in a year or so.

Feels like my life's been in standstill or im in a hibrination period, which will hopefully change when this transit comes into full effect. I can try to start laying the foundation for change now...

posted April 22, 2012 11:55 AM            

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Im on a major Paranoia trip and most days are difficult to get through.

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Originally posted by Delilah:

For some reason you grow less attached to people, or maybe that's just me. I think I'm about to end a friendship that I've had for half of my life because we no longer have anything in common and I think she's trying to manipulate me into giving her more attention than I can give anyone right now. Plus, I just can't talk about high school anymore, nor do I want to gossip about the people we went to high school with.

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Experiencing the EXACT same thing! I've at least two friends who are not resorting to underhanded, manipulative tactics to try and get me to stick around when I just want to not do that right now (1 has been pretty open about this). It is really appalling, and I definitely feel I am not attached to anyone right now and I like that. I mean, it is a difficult period because I feel like everything I believed and new of myself is one big hoax. It is like, one great coverup I've been a part of all of my life, almost.

I think I have about 2 years of it. It has also...I mean, with a Libra Rising and Libra Mars (and the Pluto/Mars conjunction among others), made me more forward that normal. I know those first two combinations are not known for decisive action and being forward (though I am very, very direct)--it has been taken to a whole new level recently.

posted April 22, 2012 12:59 PM            

that is actually Uranus.
Pluto would be that you have figured out their thought process and can predict their reaction. Pluto is slow, (thorough) and steady
Uranus is like an ADHD planet that gathers information but can't tell you the steps it took to get there.

posted April 22, 2012 01:25 PM            

The only thing that I am concerned about regarding this transit, and the upcoming one for me, Pluto square Aries Sun, is the ruthlessness it can cause, since I've been down that road before and I hate the guilt and shame that come after such behaviour. I hope this time I have learned my lesson.

posted April 22, 2012 02:02 PM            

But I beleive Pluto is currently quincunxing my ASC...wonder how that's playing out.
I also have Pluto trining my Mercury
and Conjuncting Uranus

posted April 22, 2012 06:12 PM            

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I will be experiencing this one too, sometime in the future, in my late thirties I think. Pluto is now in my 12th house and it is quite a harsh transit, like everyone mentioned. I am single and alone, almost committed suicide 6 months ago, was on sleeping pills and antidepressants for the first time in my life and, generally, have had a lousy time in my life. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. You only suffer when you struggle to go against the current, once you stop that things start to improve. This has been the case for me in the couple of hard Pluto transits I've been through - the hardest being the conjunction to my Moon-Neptune and SN on the cusp of the 12H. One way to beat Pluto at its own game is psychotherapy. Because Pluto wants to dig up the garbage in your emotional life, better do that yourself to spare him the trouble. It's only recently that I have started to see some improvement, but for years I was caught up in resisting the changes, in refusing to confrunt my inner demons, or even aknowledge them, I was even resisting therapy. As with everything excessive, sometimes you need to go to the end of the rope to realize there is nowhere lower to go, you have reached the bottom. And that's when the desperation and anxiety stops and calm sets in. You cannot run from this, you cannot hide, the only way to survive it is to allow it to flow through you as he sees fit.

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posted April 23, 2012 07:17 AM            

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I will be experiencing this one too, sometime in the future, in my late thirties I think. Pluto is now in my 12th house and it is quite a harsh transit, like everyone mentioned. I am single and alone, almost committed suicide 6 months ago, was on sleeping pills and antidepressants for the first time in my life and, generally, have had a lousy time in my life. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. You only suffer when you struggle to go against the current, once you stop that things start to improve. This has been the case for me in the couple of hard Pluto transits I've been through - the hardest being the conjunction to my Moon-Neptune and SN on the cusp of the 12H. One way to beat Pluto at its own game is psychotherapy. Because Pluto wants to dig up the garbage in your emotional life, better do that yourself to spare him the trouble. It's only recently that I have started to see some improvement, but for years I was caught up in resisting the changes, in refusing to confrunt my inner demons, or even aknowledge them, I was even resisting therapy. As with everything excessive, sometimes you need to go to the end of the rope to realize there is nowhere lower to go, you have reached the bottom. And that's when the desperation and anxiety stops and calm sets in. You cannot run from this, you cannot hide, the only way to survive it is to allow it to flow through you as he sees fit.

The only thing that I am concerned about regarding this transit, and the upcoming one for me, Pluto square Aries Sun, is the ruthlessness it can cause, since I've been down that road before and I hate the guilt and shame that come after such behaviour. I hope this time I have learned my lesson.

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Hi Hera, sorry to hear you've been suffering from depression - it's nasty! But I admire your attitude and approach. I think astrology can be helpful that way sometimes, as we know all transits eventually pass and we learn from them!

You might want to check out (if you haven't already) Alive and Well with Pluto by Bil Tierney; Ive just started reading it, as I have a series of Pluto trines coming up over the next 10 years or so beginning with my Sun!

Johnny
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