posted April 25, 2012 03:38 PM            

Coming from a Pisce sun female I do agree with alot of posters, but not the manipulative comments.

Heavens no!

I hesitate to post on Pisces man threads, cause I dated one and still cant figure that one out.

But the Pisces energy, generally speaking is not manipulative, I would say more fishing for your feelings.

And when a Pisces feelings are hurt, I have seen this with both male and female, no matter what the reason, we are hurt deep. We turn off and swim, usually not to another, but into ourselves.

Funny thing is with me, anyway is I hurt more deeply when I have hurt someone rather than they have hurt me....if and when somebody has hurt me, I just, like I said, turn off.

Virgo bfriend is walking a fine line now, always to get my feelings back after hurting me, but once it is done...it is done.

Finale!

posted April 25, 2012 07:11 PM            

The thing of it is he knows you love him. You may say you don't but remember that Us Pisceans are very intuitive but are also capable of immense disillusionment, fantasy, and mental fog.

It could well be that's he's projecting his intuition along with his desire, meaning that he wants to to play with that sensitive topic by dealing with in a non-Piscean manner by being straightforward and brash in form of an Aries man.

Basically he tossed that line out as a way to emotionally manipulate a response that self-fulfills his glood and doom prophecy about love.

posted April 25, 2012 08:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
He wants me to love him, but at the same time he wont accept it... At the same time he wants to control me, but he cant...
He doesnt like that, but he needs that...

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And yea, I stopped trying to understand your relationship a while ago.

posted April 25, 2012 08:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lioness:
[b]At the same time he wants to control me, but he cant...
He doesnt like that, but he needs that...

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And yea, I stopped trying to understand your relationship a while ago.

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LOL... I know hon!
Its ok.. I can barely understand it myself.. It just is..
Its just a slow process..

posted April 25, 2012 11:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Thefish:

The thing of it is he knows you love him. You may say you don't but remember that Us Pisceans are very intuitive but are also capable of immense disillusionment, fantasy, and mental fog.

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I think the point she was trying to make was that she feels a lot for him, and perhaps very deeply...but not 'love' per se. And in that, others have wondered as to whether or not he was in fact trying to see if she does 'love' him. And I would go so far as to say that him asking doesn't really mean he even 'loves' her. They have an interesting dynamic and story. Just watch as it evolves.

posted April 26, 2012 12:15 AM            

I know its word between us. But what can I say neither of us can let go... Maybe one day it will develop into more, maybe it won't..

Either way I know this is an important part of my growth and its something I feel I have to maintain..

posted April 26, 2012 12:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
Yes fire wire, thank you..
Honestly I feel everyone is right in there own way.. Maybe he does want to know, but he always senses it in his own way..but at the same time he wants to control it..
I do care very deeply but I font feel it's love.. I'm not at that point.. I know he cares but I don't think he's in love either..
Me not answering his question, gave him no control over me.. Which is what he really wants... But I do have pluto in h7 so I'm use to it... I just go along...

I know its word between us. But what can I say neither of us can let go... Maybe one day it will develop into more, maybe it won't..

Either way I know this is an important part of my growth and its something I feel I have to maintain..

Its deep in my psyche and my soul that I just have no choice but stick it out and go with it... I've never felt like that before.. I spent 2 years pushing it away.. I know now, I cant I just have to let the cards fall as they will.. Even if it means heart break for me.. Guess its time for me to experience it....
Maybe I have to go through this before Im meant to met my real love...idk.....
I'm letting fate and destiny take it's course..

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You know Lioness, the reality is that 'every' relationship is a learning opportunity and lesson, regardless of how it manifests. I feel like that sort of...viewpoint removes 'both' the doom and gloom and removes some of the enchantment as well, lol. But it is very true.

There is obviously something very important for you both to learn in this experience. I had a rather dramatic one last year (I posted about the mars/pluto, venus/pluto, sun/pluto double whammies and a few others). The feeling nearly consumed me, I thought I would lose it. Plenty of neptune, 12 house placements...etc, and while it never manifested full bloom, it changed me forever in ways I desperately needed to change. So, I now look at that person not as a failed experience or a failed relationship (I mean, who knows what could happen anyway), but as a vehicle for change that needed to happen and vice versa. Throughout the time, I was actually able to think of it that way. Even when I knew "geesh, this is strange" or "not right" I created the distance and drew boundaries, which interestingly was the biggest lesson I learned from the relationship. Yesterday, I was even able to kind of let go of it...a little, lol. What it was, what I thought it should be, what I thought it would be. I had to let it go and let it be in its natural state. In that action, I found contentment.

posted April 26, 2012 01:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
LOL... I know hon!

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posted April 26, 2012 07:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:

This is that one person that could destroy me forever..... I'm really really afraid of that..
He touches me so deeply...

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This is the one part that caught me. Destroy 'me.' Investigate what that really means. When you say 'me.' What parts of 'you' might he destroy, and are they really 'you' or the 'you' you present to the world. How much of that is necessary for your evolution, anyway? Pluto has been squaring my ASC (in Libra)so, my views on destruction are very...encouraging. I'm not saying let him wreck your life. But even if you don't get in a relationship with this person, you may find aspects and portions of this 'me' are destroyed anyway, if that is what is meant to happen at this stage in your life.

But once again, these are just opportunities. Energy can present and manifest itself, but nothing is obligatory. Just an opportunity. Just be sure take care of yourself and don't get lost. Time flies when you are lost in such tunnels...tunnels of intense liking and steamy passion (LOLOLOL). :: hug::

posted April 26, 2012 09:10 AM            

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Honestly I think my lesson is about feelings, because that's the hardest part for me.... I didn't realize how much I have shut off all my feelings....

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posted April 26, 2012 10:15 PM            

I feel sick to my stomach.. All of a sudden my head started pounding and my stomach hurts so much I can barely stand up. IDK if I can go through with it...

How crazy am I???

Geez having a packed 6th really sux...

posted April 26, 2012 10:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lioness:
[b] LOL... I know hon!

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posted April 26, 2012 10:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
Sighhh.. Ok so I did it again
(well his moon sq my mars) So I guess its always going to happen...

We had a very long talk yesterday about what to do about us. We are still stuck.. He told me some things he's worried about.

I told him some things that Im worried about..

We discussed it maturely.. But still with no conclusion on what to do about us. Still stuck in the same spot.
Ok no biggie..
He's stressing over it, saying he started biting his nails...

Well near the end of the conversation.. He said right now lets just agree we have lust for each other.
I said yes I can agree to that...

Then BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He says BUT I know you love me, and you always have!

This really really bothered me, because well how can he tell ME how Im feeling..
Plus Im not in love with him..
Im obsessed, mesmerized, lusting, desiring him, I like him ALOT.. But for me thats not love.. Thats not how love works.
Love is a super slow process that takes years of growth and understanding and connecting..
I dont have love for him.. I care deeply YES.. but Im just not at the love stage.

I felt he really put me on the spot... I didnt know what to say, and yeah maybe my ego got in the way a bit.. (shame shame on me)
But I told him
I Wuve ya lots, but thats not how love works for me. I dont just fall in love like that..
I said IDK if I can love anyone, and I know love is not in the cards for me..

He never replied back to me..
This morning I texted him.. He ignored me...
He always always always always replies to my texts.. Sometimes an hr later when he can, but he always replies..
Nothing..
At the end of the day. I texted him Why the silent treatment? He replied just busy.
I asked are you upset. He replied Im busy.
I said Ok.. I understand, and I left it at that.
So Im not really sure whats bothering him, the "talk" about what to do or the love thing..
I know he's upset.. I know he just needs some space right now.. I know he will call me in a few days and talk to me..
But Im at a loss here...
I feel so bad.. I had to be honest.. I dont want to lose him..
Anyways he doesnt love me... I think maybe he WANTS me to love him, but not return it.. IDK its all very confusing...

So should I just wait for him to contact me,when he's ready or should try to contact him...

I feel horrible....

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i thinnk he felt pretty hurt when you said you dont love him. even if he said 'lets call it lust' he was trying to get a reaction of you. i suspect he wanted you to say 'it is more than lust' but you said 'i agree' then he moved into saying, but 'u are in love with me' like promptim you to say that it was more than lust.

if you did not have feelings for each other why to bother? it is not just lust. it does not sound to me like that.

posted April 26, 2012 11:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lioness:
[b]He wants me to love him, but at the same time he wont accept it... At the same time he wants to control me, but he cant...
He doesnt like that, but he needs that...

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And yea, I stopped trying to understand your relationship a while ago.

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posted April 26, 2012 11:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
Well (especially to firewire) your not going to believe this...
We came to an agreement!! To cross the "friends" line into the next step to be physical with each other.. We are going to go out tomorrow and "see what happens"

I feel sick to my stomach.. All of a sudden my head started pounding and my stomach hurts so much I can barely stand up. IDK if I can go through with it...

How crazy am I???

Geez having a packed 6th really sux...

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Oh my...well, if we don't hear from you in a few days I'm calling the Coast Guard to do a search and rescue for you! A Lion in the deep blue chasing fish shouldn't be 'that' hard to find!

posted April 27, 2012 09:38 PM            

And the sad thing is, I am a very intuitive type... but man, this was just too much for me! Out of the blue, they asked me if 'we would ever grow apart' and then they started crying. And they were male. I've never seen a male FRIEND grow so emotional about me before, it just... disturbed me. We had only known each other for four and a half weeks! So to ask a question like that, well... it freaked me. I felt terrible about being so cold. I feel cold. I'm too Scorpionic sometimes. A Scorpio Sun I'm close to can be like that too... intensely emotional but they can't handle it when someone invades their 'boundaries'. Me either.