posted May 07, 2012 12:19 PM              

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Originally posted by Hera:
I am really sorry for everyone here who's lost a loved one or they're stuggling with this. In my case, my loved ones pulled me back up, indirectly because I couldn't do that to them, no matter how hopeless it all felt.

Aquacheeka, I think your approach is the best. Being there and listening if she feels like talking and just letting her know how important she is in your life - I think is less intrusive and supportive and it is what I would apreciate most.

I know some people here have mixed feelings about therapy and antidepressants and all that. I was too, but they work. I am lucky to have found an extraordinary therapist, but have been very reluctant to go through it all nonetheless. They work if you allow them to work. Seek help, please.

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posted May 07, 2012 12:29 PM            

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
I think a chart that shows signs of depression n transits that trigger the feeling of lost hope n no way out... that's how i believe one commit sucide.

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posted May 07, 2012 12:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
I agree Hera, I have recently read that SSRIs have even been shown to curtail odd sexual impulses in some people (like ball busting). I mean, it's amazing what they can do. The stigma should be eliminated. I myself have tremendous respect for them. My only concern is with weight gain. Are their antidepressants without this side effect?

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posted May 07, 2012 01:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:

What specific transits are you referencing And also what signs of depression have you found (if you mean the natal). This is for suicides that you've looked at.

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I dun know western astrology well... Perhaphs someone can help. I only know Chinese astrology n when a person is prone to depression, n when a person is so weak astrologically he may die. Add the two, depression in chart n in transit LP, plus weakest state in LP/ year so much that the person cannot help himself, i gather that's when he is prone to sucidal thoughts n suceed cos luck is against him. Again, newbie so I wldn't know what causes the depression accurately unless it's my chart.

posted May 07, 2012 01:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Oh OK. I don't know what transit LP means.

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It's a 10 year cycle. LP - luck period. If your chart clashes with those energies it might be a rough decade.

Tho not yet that much of an expert my reader can see death as well. At least I asked her if 2 aunts will survive in the past year or 2. They did not and she said so. But there was still some guessing as I just asked it in passing. Like I asked if 1 wud reach her bday. And in the other she said she wud have a hard time fighting it. Although she did not know she was already brain dead by the time I asked. Both of them had tougher clashes ahead even if they were to make it.

posted May 07, 2012 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:

Sorry I know not about suicide.

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posted May 07, 2012 07:53 PM            

Then when I was 15, my Mom woke me up at 3 am to tell me that my Aunt Mary had shot herself. I guess she was really drunk at work, and they fired her, and when she got home her fiancee kicked her out over the whole thing, and just like that she was done. Here is her chart.

Then, about 5 years ago, my Aunt Alice overdosed on prescription pills. She had a back injury, and there were a lot of complications with L&I, and it took a very long time to be approved for surgery. She was in a lot of pain for years, and got addicted to her pain killers. She could barely remain conscious most of the time, she moved back in with her ex. Then, on her only son's birthday, she called him to tell him she loved him, and no one knows after that. Her ex found her after work that night. The coroner's report deemed it a suicide by the amount of medication in her system. This is her chart.

My Grandma had six kids, Mary and Alice were the youngest and had a different father. My Mom is the oldest daughter, and she took care of them as little babies. It's been really sad to see her go through this, sad to see anyone go through it.

posted May 07, 2012 08:34 PM            

This is the transit for that day. I've noticed a pattern, when the moon hits Capricorn I go into a horrible depression that seems like I'll never get out of it again. That's not the only time I'm depressed, that's just the worst.

posted July 06, 2022 01:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Sashar:
The hardest part for me is explaining to people (shrinks/friends/random people who I talk to about depression) that after the attempt, whenever depression hits, suicide always comes up as an option. It frightens them and makes them think I'm suicidal or something. I'm not, but I'm also not a liar. It is in fact an option... but sky diving is an option to entertain me when I'm bored and you don't see me going out and getting on an airplane (hmmm, that analogy would probably make more sense if you knew I'm terrified of airplanes and of the sense of falling).

This is the transit for that day. I've noticed a pattern, when the moon hits Capricorn I go into a horrible depression that seems like I'll never get out of it again. That's not the only time I'm depressed, that's just the worst.

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posted July 19, 2022 01:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Cancermoon83:
I'm bringing this up again as I'm feeling like this my whole life.I notice something similar going on for me. Whenever the transiting moon is in late Aries,early Taurus I get really depressed and it seems like it will last forever.I attribute this to my Pluto-Saturn being exactly opposite that point,and Aries being my 8th house.Since yesterday transiting Mars is there and I see no hope anymore.
I have Moon square Pluto, Chiron exactly conjunct the MC, Mars and Venus conjunct in the 12th house and Moon widely conjunct the asteroids Dejanira and Child.
I believe what keeps me alive to this day is a strong Mercury chart ruler in Virgo in the 1st house,sextile my moon,which tries to reason my feelings and my survival instinct always kicks in before I try anything stupid.
But yes,life has been pretty painful emotionally.

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posted July 19, 2022 01:33 AM            

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Originally posted by saronna:
I don't know I have moon square Pluto & I would go into depression & suicidal. but my Jupiter is sexile Pluto & prayer & meditation everyday helps with depression & suicidal.

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posted July 20, 2022 11:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Hey. How are u doing?❤❤🙌🏿. Better??

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posted August 07, 2022 08:36 PM            

Never went through with it though. I think I'm too much of a coward but I can't stop seeing my mother's face whenever I think of doing it. Can't bring myself to hurt her that way. So I will keep on living, I guess.

posted August 09, 2022 06:36 PM            

Sorry. I didn't see this. Would have replied sooner.

When I read through this, I couldn't help but think of your Cancer Moon. The ebb and flow of the emotional wave you are riding sounds typical of this Moon.

We can (as Cancer Moons) personalize things a lot and read off unfortunate occurrences as a "curse" to us or some vendetta the Universe has against us. Mostly because we are in our feelings so much. And the hurt does feel so deep.

Is your Moon in aspect to transiting Pluto/Jupiter? If so, this can amplify this sense of being emotionally out of control and responding to the whims of life in such an extreme way.

posted August 20, 2022 10:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
@SilverFeather

What happened in 2019 to change the trajectory of your life?

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Depression happened. My life went downhill. A lot of painful and terrible experiences at once (specially with my family). Couldn't find peace so I struggled constantly. Insomnia hit me hard as well. had to get medication so I could sleep 4 hours at least.

Astrologically, transiting Saturn and Pluto were crowding my 4th House, conjuncting my IC and Sun. And both were retrograde at that time. They later hit my Neptune and Uranus, squaring my natal Moon.

posted August 21, 2022 12:08 AM            

@SilverFeather
May I know your Saturn sign?

My husband eversince 2019 has been suicidal too. He also started self harm began of 2019 too (which he NEVER does before in his life, only began in 2019). And he has reasons to too.

We loss our child in 2019, he cries every single day. As if that not enough, two months later he loss his father. Every single day was cries and bawl, and his father death was what broke the camel back.

He confront with despair, grief, pain. He started to self harm, it his ways of redirect the pain.

He cut his stomach with a knife, he said stomach skin is thinner so it hurts more, and there more nerves in the stomach. Plus nobody see if you cut your stomach than cut on your arms or legs.

This went on 2 years, he started to get better (I guess Saturn transit to the next house?). But then when it the Death Anniversary of our child and the Death Anniversary of his father, he cut his stomach again. I know this is his ways of redirect his pain.

His Saturn in Scorpio, Scorpio Saturn is cruel as hell.
His Mars also in Scorpio, Masr is bloodshed, I know his his Scorpio Mars that give him the drive for him to cut his stomach (self-harm). And he is a Mars dominant chart too.
And Saturn is what cause his melancholy.

Their conjunction is wide, 8 orb conjunction Separating. That means Mars and Saturn already meet and they Separate and go their separate way. Meaning Mars is no longer in Saturn influence as Mars has separate from Saturn, Saturn also separate from Mars.
And 8 orb is wide, added on to the Separating aspect, that Scorpio Mars is in rulership at home, Scorpio Saturn in a Mars sign and retrograde, Mars is stronger.
And he is a Daychart too, meaning Mars is the Out of Sect greatest malefic in his chart here.

Why he still living? He said because of me. If I happen to die before him, he will go too. He would have put a gun to his head already if it weren't me still living. That Scorpio Mars is strong enough to get him to pull the trigger. In all suicide case you NEED Mars to help you pull the trigger. And he is a Mars dominant chart too.

And this been going on for 3 years, he will never be the same again, like you, a piece of himself as died along with his child and his father when they died.

One thing that so true about astrology is, someone who has a strong Mars is fearless, fearless of death, and fearless of pain (physical pain). Mars is the drive, the actions, it what you use in your favor to get things done. If you can get a knife and slice your stomach, then that person has a strong Mars, period.

posted August 21, 2022 02:35 AM            

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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
Depression happened. My life went downhill. A lot of painful and terrible experiences at once (specially with my family). Couldn't find peace so I struggled constantly. Insomnia hit me hard as well. had to get medication so I could sleep 4 hours at least.

Astrologically, transiting Saturn and Pluto were crowding my 4th House, conjuncting my IC and Sun. And both were retrograde at that time. They later hit my Neptune and Uranus, squaring my natal Moon.

It's no longer as bad as it used to be, but something inside me died permanently since then. The joy of living that is. Existing just to exist and hoping to disappear at some point.

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