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zanarkand112
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posted May 29, 2012 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zanarkand112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jim:
Looks very interesting , here's my chart :

The ruling forces appear to be Saturn and Pluto. Saturn is nearing the ASC, and Pluto is conjunct the Midheaven and North Node. Pluto will have a lot to do with your soul development in this life, since it is conjunct your north node. There may also be challenging lessons to be learned there. Saturn in the first nearing the ASC would affect you in a more personal sense. This is
one heavy mixture. Do your best to avoid feeling guilt, anxiety, burdens, or other negative feelings.

The other planet worth considering is Neptune conjunct your chart ruler.

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zanarkand112
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posted May 29, 2012 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zanarkand112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
This seems really cool! I'm guessing my planetary sojourns would be Mercury and Mars. My AC is in Virgo, but moving forward, it would encounter Mercury in Libra. Same for my MC, as it is in Gemini, first coming into contact with Mars in Leo.

I have Sun exact conjunct North Node. What about that? Since you referred to SN conjunctions as preferred "stomping grounds", perhaps after this life I am going to the Sun...?



It sounds like you've got it about right, but I am a very visual person. Is there any way you can post your chart for me to make sure and to check for some more clues?

Also, what I meant by "stomping grounds" for the south node is that person is very proficient in that energy. That may have spent eons on those realms bringing those energies to the earth repeatedly. But also that energy can be like a drag anchor, retarding a sense of soul growth if the energy is used too often. It would be like repeating a grade. You may get an A+ on everything you do, but you wouldn't learn very much.

But a planet conjunct the North Node leaves a lot of freedom. The energy and lessons concerning that planet may prove challenging, because that energy you can tap into is fresh and new. You need to find a way to integrate the lessons and energies of that planet properly into your life. However, with inexperience can come fear. But should someone tap into those energies successfully, they will grow by leaps and bounds. But any extremes can be dangerous, so a balance is needed whether that planet is conjunct the south or north node. Just because a planet is conjunct the north node does not mean overusing it will not bring about problems like a planet conjunct the south node.

So for you tapping into the power of your planetary sojourn on The Sun would be where the most soul growth is possible. You could be a leader in some way, an entertainer, devoted to a cause bigger than yourself. It would add possible Leo-like qualities to your personality or life purpose.

Also, any planet conjunct the north node would not show where you would go after you die, but only where you might have been. Although Edgar did talk a little bit about that subject, it has nothing to do with any indicators found within someone's chart. I may write a little more about this later.

Hope that clear some of that up. I can see how my wording there could be a little confusing.

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RedScorp
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posted May 29, 2012 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It sounds like you've got it about right, but I am a very visual person. Is there any way you can post your chart for me to make sure and to check for some more clues?

Absolutely.

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So for you tapping into the power of your planetary sojourn on The Sun would be where the most soul growth is possible. You could be a leader in some way, an entertainer, devoted to a cause bigger than yourself. It would add possible Leo-like qualities to your personality or life purpose.

Oh yes, once I embraced the more Solar or Leo-like aspects of my personality, such as being sociable, loving attention, and loud/outgoing, I've felt much more confident and natural compared to way back when I was more anti-social.

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zanarkand112
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posted May 29, 2012 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zanarkand112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Oh yes, once I embraced the more Solar or Leo-like aspects of my personality, such as being sociable, loving attention, and loud/outgoing, I've felt much more confident and natural compared to way back when I was more anti-social.

You seem to have gotten your major planetary sojourns correct! Mercury and Mars are the ruling forces, followed by the Sun with the potential for new and exciting opportunities in your soul development in this incarnation.

Jupiter is conjunct your Sun's dispositor. And I would add an explanation of why I think so, but it would take a lot of space extra space to explain, but another possibly planetary sojourn is Venus. Although I don't say either of those two with any sort of certainty. This is purely speculation on my part. They would play minor supporting roles to your big three, if they are active at all.

Also worth looking at, Neptune and Uranus conjunct your moon. The moon relates heavily to the earth according to Cayce. While maybe not the major forces at play in this life, they may stem from your material or earthly sojourns.(other past lives) Karma may have been generated because of those energies, and you are working with the lessons you learned then to help balance some lessons you will learn in this life. Although you may have been to the realms as some point in time too, they would not be the recent sojourns as indicated in this chart, but a part of the soul patterns generated due to past experiences that you have kept with you over time.

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zanarkand112
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posted May 29, 2012 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zanarkand112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just posting some random facts about planetary sojourns according to Cayce:

When we die, we are drawn to a realm that helps us heal our soul due to certain experiences here in our life on earth.

One might he drawn to Mars if you died a warrior or thoughts of extreme anger/vengeance filled your mind with your last passing thoughts for example.

Edgar Cayce died in one life as a nine year old boy from a "broken heart". He was attracted to the Venus afterlife realm to heal his broken heart, and the damage it had done to his soul. When he reincarnated he took that love from Venus, but it had "turned inward" He became a wastrel, caring about nothing but but himself. He became obsessed with material pleasures, living for little else. When he died after that life he was drawn to Uranus, because he had lived his life in such an extreme way, he had to come to know "the extremes within himself." It was after this he reincarnated from Uranus as Edgar Cayce, and took with him psychic powers he had mastered on Uranus.

If you have repeating dreams where you are floating/flying, this is a strong indicator you have had a sojourn on Neptune.


While Neptunians should live by water, they have to be careful when IN large bodies of water as they have a higher chance of drowning.

Cayce met a sister from another life. She had sojourned on Mercury and Jupiter the ruling forces before coming to earth. She was a director on a board for the Red Cross at the time. He said she had used her powers of communication(Mercury) with the talents from Jupiter(dealing with large groups of people or causes bigger than ones self) to excel at her current job. Just one of the many ways our planetary sojourns can manifest here on earth!

In Mercury, Jupiter, and Neptune lies the "universal consciousness". (infinite intelligence, literally the collective forces of God himself)

We find in Jupiter the power and might of attraction; the abilities to meet situations.

Arcturus magnifies the force of will. 5749-14 Arcturus is that which may be called the center of this universe.

With Jupiter, we find a universal consciousness, an awareness of the universal forces. (Jupiter was worshiped as Jove and as Zeus, and considered the Father of the gods. Our Creator made all of these.)
- March, when there are the definite changes in the influence upon the Jupiterians.
- Jupiter builds leaders

- do not ever sleep with the Moon shining upon the face - for the Moon and the Sun are the ruling of the emotions.
- the Moon those various changing phases of man's consciousness.

In Neptune we find the mystery, or the psychic forces, the spiritual expressions of creating - as expressed or manifested, latent and mentally and spiritually, by the very vibrations or emanations from the presence of the entity among others.
In Neptune, again we find the artistic temperament.

Madness or insanity is an influence of Mars.

As a planet gets closer its effect increases; but as it retracts, those who have sojourned there have trouble. 3744-3

Uranus: In this planet those of the exceptional forces, those of the ultra forces, those that carry the extremes in every walk of life and forces - give of their strength to the greater force.


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RedScorp
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posted May 29, 2012 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is really fun and cool! I'm def gonna look at my friends' charts next...

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Jim
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posted May 29, 2012 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by zanarkand112:
The ruling forces appear to be Saturn and Pluto. Saturn is nearing the ASC, and Pluto is conjunct the Midheaven and North Node. Pluto will have a lot to do with your soul development in this life, since it is conjunct your north node. There may also be challenging lessons to be learned there. Saturn in the first nearing the ASC would affect you in a more personal sense. This is
one heavy mixture. Do your best to avoid feeling guilt, anxiety, burdens, or other negative feelings.

The other planet worth considering is Neptune conjunct your chart ruler.


i read about those three planets you said , i have always overvalue pluto and i am glad i get to "have been , there" and lol , rigth now i wish i could just go to saturn and start all over , would be perfect for me , still thank you for the post and the information

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novembermuse
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posted May 29, 2012 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for novembermuse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am totally curious!!! Thank you for offering this!!

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zanarkand112
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posted May 29, 2012 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zanarkand112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jim:
i read about those three planets you said , i have always overvalue pluto and i am glad i get to "have been , there" and lol , rigth now i wish i could just go to saturn and start all over , would be perfect for me , still thank you for the post and the information

Aw, don't be too hard on yourself. This is what I am talking about. Avoid those negative feelings. I know someone who has the same ruling forces(Saturn and Pluto) and he feels guilt and inadequate a lot. Realize that you already went to Saturn, changed yourself, and now you are here. You made the decision to come as you are because you already made a lot of progress. No need to go back again, be happy with who you are in "the now".

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zanarkand112
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posted May 29, 2012 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zanarkand112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by novembermuse:
I am totally curious!!! Thank you for offering this!!

The ruling forces appear to be Mars and the Sun. Although there is always some level of doubt where the Sun is concerned about planetary sojourns, it is conjunct the Midheaven so chances are good you went there. The secondary forces are Mercury and Neptune as they are widely conjunct your Midheaven and tightly conjunct your sun.

On the south node, even though I don't usually use orbs this wide, Pluto is there. I find it acceptable because your Tropical and Sidereal Sun is in Scorpio. This is an area you you are quite proficient in, but as I said before, beware of overusing those energies. Even though Pluto is new for most souls to sojourn on, it looks like you noticed the "new toy" on the playground, and rushed over to it pretty quickly when it made its debut!

On the North Node, we can see the Moon is there. This points to where the most soul growth might be possible. Don't be afraid to dwell in the realm of heavy emotions, but like the changes phases on the moon, don't let your emotions control you either. Use your keen powers of intuition to help you discover what you want out of life.

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chr0nic_t0xicity
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posted May 30, 2012 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chr0nic_t0xicity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is so interesting... I'm wondering what you might be able to make out of my chart, I have exact birth time, and I see you keep mentioning Arcturus. I have Spica/Arcturus conjunct my Ascendant at 23'33 Libra

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posted May 30, 2012 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zanarkand112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by chr0nic_t0xicity:
This is so interesting... I'm wondering what you might be able to make out of my chart, I have exact birth time, and I see you keep mentioning Arcturus. I have Spica/Arcturus conjunct my Ascendant at 23'33 Libra



The ruling forces for this incarnation appear to be Pluto and then Jupiter.

Saturn tightly conjunct the north node and sun. This shows impending lessons that could be quite daunting and challenging to be learned in this life regarding those energies.

You also have The Sun widely conjunct the North Node, so here is a chance you sojourned there as well. You may find yourself devoting yourself to a cause larger than yourself or having leadership abilities one day.

This is purely speculation on my part, but you may also have minor forces of Mercury, Neptune, and Uranus as the supporting forces in this incarnation.

You and I have our Ascendent in nearly the same place. Chances are good that you went to Arcturus. Unfortunately, not much information is available on it. But I will post some things he said about it:

The sixth problem concerns interplanetary and inter-system dwelling, between earthly lives. It was given through this source that the entity Edgar Cayce, after the experience as Uhjltd, went to the system of Arcturus, and then returned to earth. Does this indicate a usual or an unusual step in soul evolution?
(A) As indicated, or as has been indicated in other sources besides this as respecting this very problem, - Arcturus is that which may be called the center of this universe, through which individuals pass and at which period there comes the choice of the individual as to whether it is to return to complete there - that is, in this planetary system, our sun, the earth sun and its planetary system - or to pass on to others. This was an unusual step, and yet a usual one.

Not that the sun that is the center of this solar system is all there is. For the entity has attained to that realm even of Arcturus, or that center from which there may be the entrance into other realms of consciousness. And the entity has chosen in itself to return to the earth for a definite mission.

Arcturus comes in this entity's chart, or as a central force from which the entity came again into the earth-material sojourns. For, this is the way, the door out of this system. Yet purposefully did the entity return in this experience.

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