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RedScorp
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posted June 15, 2012 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, side observation, but he seems immature...Scorpio guy.

I've learnt NOT to play games with people who I value lots...even then, I try to cut back on fiddling with people's minds, stinging people...but he maybe your Scorpio needs a little more spine and little less exoskeleton...? Jut wondering aloud here!

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posted June 15, 2012 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regardes -

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I'm not saying that you should just accept anyone just because you don't want to hurt their feelings--no way should you include a toxic, dangerous, or otherwise harmful person.

I know what you mean... It was just my instinctual reaction to be cold. The Moon is about emotional instincts and mine is in Capricorn... Mars can also be about instincts - and my Mars is also in Cap.
My reaction at that point was just -taking it all in-... I didn't have time to really think.
I KNOW he took it the wrong way - because from his perspective it's all or nothing and I should just know I'm love with him and throw myself into his arms. But it's not my style. I don't feel like I know him that well yet.

scorpy oh -

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what are your expectations with him? if you don't mind me asking.

I just expect him to snap out of this behaviour.. which I see as immature... and I would like us to be friends, if it's possible.
I definitely don't want to jump into something sexual or romantic... That just doesn't happen overnight for me...
If he understands this - that's cool.
If he doesn't - that's cool as well.
In some ways we are similar and I think we could be good friends.

LOL JFK - Thank You! hahah
You're very cool yourself!
I can be weak though...
I have a Mars/Neptune conj lol... I can be 'ga ga' & intensely in love.. with the right person - and show a vulnerable side. I'm not scared of being *real* with him.. and we all have weaknesses... So I'm not hiding that. It's just that - for me to get close - really close - and to really open up... it takes me a much longer time.
If he keeps behaving this way I just won't be able to show him that side of myself because he is creating a wall.

Scorpy -

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He wants control and if he desires you, the two can't be separated

I can give him control.. I mean - he can HAVE control.... but not if he behaves in such a childish way.
Maybe I'm being too feisty... I don't know.
I'll try to be nice next time.

The fact that he temporarily lost control and told me everything he ever felt for me... was completely unexpected to both of us. I'm not sure why he is blaming me for that...

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Odette
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posted June 15, 2012 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've learnt NOT to play games with people who I value lots...even then, I try to cut back on fiddling with people's minds, stinging people...but he maybe your Scorpio needs a little more spine and little less exoskeleton...?

I was just typing that last post... and I agree with you.

This is pretty immature of him.

But he SEEMS mature - when you look at him... He really does.
It's very deceptive.

I don't know.

My feeling is that he *is* mature deep down... BUT ... maybe he was hurt in the past and he is not over it and he is partially projecting things my way.

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posted June 15, 2012 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also - you have a Capricorn Moon!
We're basically born 'mature'

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posted June 15, 2012 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My feeling is that he *is* mature deep down... BUT ... maybe he was hurt in the past and he is not over it and he is partially projecting things my way.

I love that you're an optimist! I am one too. I say to keep trying (if that's what you want of course)! I'm holding out hope for you!

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posted June 16, 2012 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Scorpy!

I think I found the bug:

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Jumping to negative conclusions or withdrawing emotionally when an expression of warmth is not received exactly as you intended is not going to help either.

^^ From the Venus conj Saturn (natal) interp on cafe astrology.

-He has Venus conj both Saturn and Uranus.-

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posted June 16, 2012 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The young Scorps that I have dealt with so far, I felt were disappointed from my seemingly chilly demeanor and probably had their egos hurt. Well, sh** dude, I didn't know I have to jump on you and hump your leg the moment you appear on my door. (Even though I am really "watery" lady). My ex is one (Sag ASC) and he once asked me what I would do if he came to my house without a warning, you know, like a surprise (he was studying in a different town, far away from here).
I told him I'd probably say hi, "what are you doing here, didn't expect that". He sure looked disappointed as in "What? Just that? "

My dad who is an older Scorpio [80 years old] is old-school. My mom was a very hard-to-get Aqua and he really went after her.

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posted June 16, 2012 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
I know what you mean... It was just my instinctual reaction to be cold. The Moon is about emotional instincts and mine is in Capricorn... Mars can also be about instincts - and my Mars is also in Cap.
My reaction at that point was just -taking it all in-... I didn't have time to really think.
I KNOW he took it the wrong way - because from his perspective it's all or nothing and I should just know I'm love with him and throw myself into his arms. But it's not my style. I don't feel like I know him that well yet.

Well, I'm a Scorpio Venus and Pluto (Libra sun/Merc, Cancer moon).

I'm not saying that you should be in love with him or throw yourself at him. I mean, I've said over and over again and again that no one ever owes another person a romantic relationship, and that it's OK to be rude to protect yourself.

But, just to give a general idea of what goes on inside a Scorp-influenced person's head, I'll try to explain a bit. As I said, I don't date, so the context is a bit different--not romantic or sexual in my case. However, it may help, so here goes.

(For what it's worth, my Mars is in Cap too).

I'm a Libra with a packed Libran 11th house: social failure is VERY painful for me. When people ignore me, avoid me, don't want to be around me, won't talk to me, dislike me, etc., I do take it very personally. It makes me feel a lot of bad things towards myself: anxiety, self-consciousness, embarrassment, shame, guilt, self-hate, worthlessness, etc.

I would say that it might be good to just talk about things with him. If you are honest with a Scorpio-influenced person (assuming that this is a healthy Scorp), this is something that many of us appreciate. If you're willing to work with us, we're willing to work with you too (at least I am). When people are honest with me and are patient with me as I work on myself, I feel grateful and it makes me more compassionate and patient towards them, too.

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posted June 18, 2012 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regardes - You're a very sweet person.. but he is a bit 'rougher'... at least around the edges. Maybe not on the inside.
I think it's due to his Sag planets. But I will talk to him for sure - when it is just the two of us. I'll find the right time!

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posted June 18, 2012 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am really excited about something though... I was going to post here and ask advice... but I might just make a new thread.

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posted June 21, 2012 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 21, 2012 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I just FEEL - insanely happy right now.. Beyond words.

I'm very glad.

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posted June 21, 2012 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Milkyshutter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are a capricorn like me, we both know that we are extremely vulnerable once opening our heart and accept someone in our life.

I had relationship with a scorpio before, and they are not the type who like game of chasing and being chased. If they opened up to you, it took tremendous courage for them. They are used to keeping things to themselves.

If you like him, you should talk to him. I dont think he will ever show affection openly, that is if he is truly a scorpio.

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posted June 22, 2012 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 22, 2012 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 22, 2012 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Milky - It's OK.. We talked.. See my last post.
We're on -cloud 9- now... Actually we're beyond that cloud... We couldn't catch a plane back to that cloud!

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posted June 22, 2012 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aughughs OdettttTTteEEEEee...I dunno about hugging him, but I wanna hug you! I'm so happy hearing this ahahahahhandasojcf. Check your email, qurl!

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posted June 22, 2012 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Milkyshutter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Milky - It's OK.. We talked.. See my last post.
We're on -cloud 9- now... Actually we're beyond that cloud... We couldn't catch a plane back to that cloud!

Nice to hear things have worked out for you.
But, already beyond that cloud?????
Slow down sister. Ha...

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posted June 27, 2012 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 14, 2012 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HE'S A SAGITTARIUS.

*FACE PALM*

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posted December 14, 2012 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpy -

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Okay, side observation, but he seems immature...Scorpio guy.

LoL well everything makes so much sense now... since he's not a Scorpio.

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posted December 14, 2012 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Developments:

I am extremely angry with him..

I wanted to have a Christmas party with some friends.
So he decides to have a Christmas dinner on the exact same day and invite our mutual friends... which are like half the people on my list.
I already booked the venue for the Christmas party..
Now we're playing tug of war with our friends as to who is going where... because of his ego-mania.
He has NEVER invited people to a dinner... let alone at his house.
He has NEVER cooked a day in his life - all of the sudden he is 'cooking'..
And the theme? I don't mean to be sexist but it's more common for women or couples to have Christmas parties - he is a single guy... making Christmas dinner for our friends.. wtf --- when they were already invited to MY PARTY.

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posted December 14, 2012 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what's next?
maybe he'll start hosting thanksgiving... next year. (although we're not in US.. but who knows?)

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posted December 14, 2012 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just don't understand this person. WHAT is his deal?!!!!

He's probably going to poison all our friends with his "cooking skills" or lack thereof.

"Merry Christmas!!!! *cough * *cough* *i'm choking*... OMG what did you put in that???"

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posted December 14, 2012 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread is amazing. And your dedication to editing is simply adorable

Great to see you stick with your plans. Make sure you're positively chirping with joy about it. #NoBS
Those precious moments when mutual friends decide which "mutualee" they love best

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