posted June 14, 2012 01:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Jovian:
Thank you for sharing this, Linda. IMO, you are such a seeker, so open to learning, that I agree with the others and wouldn't be surprised if indeed you had glimpsed a suggestion of some other version of IQ, and not necessarily a past life. Perhaps an aspect of you is indeed currently learning with his higher soul, beyond this physical realm, and thus the familiarity you feel with his energy. Perhaps you are meant to understand further what it means to "see beyond the form" in some way?

Of course, I can't say you also didn't know him physically in some other timeline as well.

Thank you for inviting us to comment.

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You're welcome, Jovian. And thank YOU for sharing your insight. The more I think about it, the more I feel it makes sense.

I love what you said here -

"Perhaps an aspect of you is indeed currently learning with his higher soul, beyond this physical realm, and thus the familiarity you feel with his energy. Perhaps you are meant to understand further what it means to "see beyond the form" in some way?"

When I read this something "clicked" and I suddenly seemed to have greater clarity. So thank you for putting in the time to think about my dream/experience.

posted June 14, 2012 01:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
btw mentioned dream of mine took place on the night from 17th to 18th may.

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Ceri, I was looking for what iQ had said about that period in May ... and here ... I found it on his thread posted May 10, 2012 -

"Rare Phenomenon about Uranus and Neptune"
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/213588.html

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Both these generational planets are about to change their degree at nearly the same time.
This will create a simultaneous effect of change in Sabian Symbol Meaning of degrees for Uranus and Neptune.

Neptune is going from Spiritual Stagnation to Spiritual Rush of new ideas.
Uranus is going from Multidimensional Experience to sudden Crown Chakra Activation with assistance from Eastern Mysticism.

12th May 2012 will be an important event date in terms of opening up more people to spiritual awareness, especially if they have strong Uranus or Neptune in their charts.

Interestingly Mars changes its degree to 8 Virgo on 13th May. This degree is related to Artistic Expression and Manifestation . Since Jupiter and Sun conjunct on q degree related to wealth [22-23 Taurus], the following 3 days are a great time to sow seeds of spiritual wealth through empowering affirmations.

Good luck

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posted June 14, 2012 02:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Jovian:
EDIT: Really don't want to sidetrack your thread, but THANK YOU, Linda, for your reply (below) on that tiny link that I managed to overlook, that includes a search engine for this place!! I've griped elsewhere that there was no search on this site. ...Lo and behold.

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No problem, Jovian. And you haven't sidetracked my thread at all!!

posted June 14, 2012 02:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
Linda.. This is a tough one.. I think your grandma/family visits you in your sleep...
Kinda letting you know we are here with you type of thing...

As for IQ its hard it kinda seems like its your individual perception of him.. Yet at the same time it could be some sort of astral travel...

IDK.... But it sounds like a great experience..

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How are you doing today, Lioness. Hope a bit better than yesterday about the people you had to dismiss.

Thank you for your input! And I agree that my relatives who've passed on appear in my dreams to let me know they're looking out for me. That has always given me a sense of security and strengthened my faith.

"Yet at the same time it could be some sort of astral travel... "

posted June 14, 2012 02:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Emeraldopal:
Linda Jones,

Thanks so much for sharing
your dreams with us..
This is really Ggod Stuff!
and, hehe, you already know
the answers to your questions...

this is Wonderful!

you might want to meet us
in the Spider Line and
Universal Codes Forums..

iQ, Is Amazing in Every
Dimension, we all are!!!

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Aww Emerald, you're welcome and thank YOU for bringing your loving presence here.

"This is really Ggod Stuff!"

I agree that the addition of a single "o" to God becomes His creation which is nothing but good. Awesome!

"you might want to meet us
in the Spider Line and
Universal Codes Forums.."

Thank you for the invite. I sure will.

":iQ, Is Amazing in Every
Dimension, we all are!!!"

Very true!

" hehe, you already know
the answers to your questions..."

posted June 14, 2012 02:18 AM            

Curiously, the two (for certain) turned out to be my best friend, (with whom I have the 'super Scorpio stellium' composite), and the one, though unverified, was more than likely my best male friend from childhood, who disappeared when I was twelve.

You may've stumbled onto the deepening of some of your own gifts, Linda.

posted June 14, 2012 06:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
So astrologically, this is what was happening in the skies at the time of your dream.

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Uranus-Neptune is interestingly, as currently my solar Arc Uranus is moving into exact conjunction with my natal Neptune.
At that night it had come JUST into an orb of 30 minutes, and is approaching.

Additionally Solar arc VESTA was conjunct natal PALLAS with 0°19 separating. And Pallas is involved in a minor triangle

of PALLAS on 9 Aquarius trine PLUTO on 9 Libra, and both being sextile NEPTUNE on 9 Sagittarius, NN on 10 Sag and ATLANTIS on 8 Sagittarius.

Tr Pallas was JUST on the verge of changing into 00 Aries and therefore beginning a new cycle.

And Tr ATLANTIS has been just 2 degrees of Solar Arc VESTA and natal PALLAS (applying).

I guess it goes a long way back.

posted June 14, 2012 09:39 AM            

...I was also about to echo what EmeraldOpal said to you, "...you already know the answers to your questions."

Iq also seems one who trusts in the inherent wisdom that "knowflakes" are guided in their own time to uncover their own inner knowing, in their own way. ...A great guide, indeed.

I went ahead and opened a photobucket account. Your event chart shall christen it. (Another 2fer...)

Wow – Hypnos, Anubis and Pallas – Just the ones I had plucked from Iq's site to look at, though novice I am with asteroids.

...And I stuck Kaali in there, for some reason. And Atlantis, after Ceridwen mentioned it.

June 6, 2012, 6:30 PM, EST

Tropical

Heliocentric

posted June 14, 2012 10:51 AM            

This string is singing
deeper and higher. ...

Synchronicity

Sacred Geometry

Words and Numbers

Astrology is missing
a key, a section
secret of 13

I am So Happy
with the
Learning and Growing

Here and Now and Now
is Won!

..finding the Eternal Now. ...

posted June 14, 2012 10:04 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I've only had two of those - wait, three. Two of one person, one of another.

Curiously, the two (for certain) turned out to be my best friend, (with whom I have the 'super Scorpio stellium' composite), and the one, though unverified, was more than likely my best male friend from childhood, who disappeared when I was twelve.

You may've stumbled onto the deepening of some of your own gifts, Linda.

-A.

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Thanks Indigo. Your childhood friend - the one who disappeared - hope he only disappeared from your life and not from life altogether.

"You may've stumbled onto the deepening of some of your own gifts, Linda. "

posted June 14, 2012 10:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Jovian:
Hi Linda!

...I was also about to echo what EmeraldOpal said to you, "...you already know the answers to your questions."

Iq also seems one who trusts in the inherent wisdom that "knowflakes" are guided in their own time to uncover their own inner knowing, in their own way. ...A great guide, indeed.

I went ahead and opened a photobucket account. Your event chart shall christen it. (Another 2fer...)

Wow – Hypnos, Anubis and Pallas – Just the ones I had plucked from Iq's site to look at, though novice I am with asteroids.

...And I stuck Kaali in there, for some reason. And Atlantis, after Ceridwen mentioned it.

Woohoo! It worked.

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Hi Jovian!!!!

THANK YOU!!!!

Gosh, it's tremendously generous of you to take the time to post the charts!! I'm sooo grateful.

I hope your photo bucket acc. brings you lots of good luck and blessings as you've christened it with my even chart.

Your doing this is not just a 2fer, it's a total gift, one that I completely appreciate. Now I hope I can make good use of it.

posted June 14, 2012 10:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Emeraldopal:
Thanks, and you're welcome, too
Linda Jones

This string is singing
deeper and higher. ...

Synchronicity

Sacred Geometry

Words and Numbers

Astrology is missing
a key, a section
secret of 13

I am So Happy
with the
Learning and Growing

Here and Now and Now
is Won!

..finding the Eternal Now. ...

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Hi Emerald. I too like the energy in this string.

"Synchronicity

Sacred Geometry

Words and Numbers

Astrology is missing
a key, a section
secret of 13"

posted June 14, 2012 10:25 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Robert Moss, Way of The Dreamer
THE LIGHTNING DREAMWORK GAME http://www.mossdreams.com/Design%202009/Archives/Essays/2012.01%20lightning% 20dreamwork%20game.htm

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posted June 14, 2012 11:27 PM            

Thank you for pointing out that I already know the answers. So I'm going to go ahead and give it a try ...

The answer to questions 1 through 5 is a yes each time.

The answer to ques. 7 is a no.

The answer to ques 6 is astrological, not scientific. Science is about reason and logic and though scientists can try to explain the 4th dimension either through math or the use of figures, the problem they will run into is that any picture or drawing they use to convey this information will also be three dimensional. So the way the human brain will perceive any such explanation will also be through the 3D filter.

At the moment, the only way to grasp an understanding of higher dimensions is through personal intuitive experience for which one has to go beyond reason and logic.

I think a major player in the veils becoming non-existent will be Neptune since it dissolves boundaries. It's presence in Pisces is probably what's going to be at least partially responsible.

Jovian, what you said -

"Perhaps you are meant to understand further what it means to "see beyond the form" in some way?"

struck a chord because ... and this may sound really odd, but I generally do not focus on a person's appearance. So much so that often, after I first meet someone, I don't remember their face or their physical appearance as much as the energy they put out. Their energy is what creates an imprint on my mind, the rest is forgotten. This is why I can never correctly guess a person's Ascendant unless the person also has several planets in the Asc. sign, thus multiplying the energy of that sign.

posted June 15, 2012 12:39 AM            

You say you don't focus on appearance, yet you managed to create a (very detailed) notion of what Iq looks like, in this incarnation. Does this mean you somehow sense he really appears that way? It seems peculiar that you would have had such a sure image of what he "looks" like--his weight, age, hair (lol)--that you would be shocked in a dream that he didn't appear that way. ... What do you make of this?

posted June 15, 2012 02:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Jovian:
Linda - Yes, I had read in your initial post that you sense others' energies. So, I was almost not sure I should state, "see beyond the form," since you already seem to do that, in a way. So, I added "further," as maybe there is another level to this for you.

You say you don't focus on appearance, yet you managed to create a (very detailed) notion of what Iq looks like, in this incarnation. Does this mean you somehow sense he really appears that way? It seems peculiar that you would have had such a sure image of what he "looks" like--his weight, age, hair (lol)--that you would be shocked in a dream that he didn't appear that way. ... What do you make of this?

(...Did you state somewhere else that your moon is in 1st house?)

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Jovian, this is partly why I was so confused after the dream, because it doesn't make sense and I actually don't know what to make of it. In my post I said that even though I don't know what iQ looks like in real life, I still "know" what he looks like if that makes any sense.

But really, if you were to ask me about iQ's height, build, specific facial features, I would not know the answer. But in the dream I noted the longer hair with a bit of gray, a thinner frame, and someone who came across as older as being the three things that were different from iQ. How do I know this? I have absolutely no clue!!! Perhaps in real life iQ does resemble the person I saw in the dream, I don't know. But if that were the case then the message I got in the dream would not be the same.

As I think about it some more, I think the 3 things I "knew" to be different from iQ are perhaps only symbolic -- meant to convey to me that I was seeing a different "version" of him, rather than anything specifically to do with his appearance really.

Similarly I "knew" his voice to be the same, meaning iQ's. Now I don't know what iQ's voice sounds like, obviously because I've never heard him speak. So if you were to ask me to describe it, I wouldn't be able to. Yet in the dream I seemed to know it. I think that perhaps this "knowing-ness" in the dream about the voice was also symbolic, meant to convey that it was iQ. So the similarity in the voice and some surface differences in the appearance were altogether meant to convey information about a different "version" of iQ.

Also in my experience, as far as dreams go, often there's some information that I somehow just know. And I find that the amount of the information is just enough to get the message across. Whether it has anything to do with the actual physical appearance of things or people I see in the dream is something I'm not certain about. It may or it may not. I think it could go either way. But I think the more important factor is that the "appearance" of things or people are tools to convey some specific message.

And when I said I don't focus on a person's appearance, I meant things like the color/shape of eyes, other features that one would normally notice and remember later. I didn't mean I don't have a general idea of someone's height, build etc. These are general things that my "peripheral" vision does gather.

Have I helped in answering your questions?

posted June 15, 2012 07:13 AM            

How do you feel about having arrived at your own answers to those previous questions you had? Does that sit well with you? Or do you have any anxiety about them not being "right" in some way?

Yes, I had thought you quite Piscean. And your mention here and there of your interest in the more Christian synastry pairs had me tying it to that level of Piscean spirituality.

...I was imagining that that moon placement might reflect in your trying extra hard to exercise your reasoning faculty, perhaps trying to balance the more immediate emotional perceptions you may experience life through. It seems you are doing this successfully, if we consider a recent example in a thread where you offered a detailed evaluation of someone's aspects, and that person thought your interpretation appropriate (along with the approval from Iq that had you jumping for joy!). You seemed to gain confidence from that.

...I'm just trying to offer some feedback. Sometimes it is helpful to have someone bounce your reflection back to you. Let me know of course if I'm way off here...or ignorantly telling you something you already know!

posted June 15, 2012 09:07 AM            

I must say, today I had extremely weird dreams with time anomalies. Three dreams/Astral Experiences or Parallel Dimensions, just cannot say, for more than an hour or so per dream, and waking up to see that only five minutes have passed in this existence [5 minutes is the mobile snooze setting]. First time for everything.... perhaps it is another manifestation of Pluto-Uranus square on the individual Mind. God knows best.

posted June 15, 2012 10:39 AM            

"I'm just trying to offer some feedback. Sometimes it is helpful to have someone bounce your reflection back to you. Let me know of course if I'm way off here...or ignorantly telling you something you already know!"

Thank you for the feedback. I think it is very valuable to the whole process of learning and understanding. So I welcome it. Even if you tell me something I already know, it is still information as it confirms something I've already considered. And actually you're asking some excellent questions because they're getting me to think more, even though I know I'm not going to have all the answers just yet. Stuff is usually revealed to us as and when needed or when we're ready for it.

"I can understand what you mean regarding the "knowing" was meant to help you realize that it was Iq this was supposed to be. Yet, it would still be interesting to know if he relates to one physical description more than the other (in this dimension)!"

I completely understand what you mean about getting some sort of validation of his appearance. This may then (I feel) even underscore the validity of the whole experience in terms of offering some sort of "proof" of astral/other dimensional "travel". Living in the 3D world that we are, our perception can only be based on the way we receive and process information which necessarily involves "physical 3D proof" in a manner of speaking.

But then again, my description of him not having a thin frame, not having shoulder length hair with some gray in it, and not being older looking, is not much to go on, is it? I mean, that sort of description fits millions of people.

After my last post to you, I thought some more about your questions and realized that if we were to consider iQ's sage appearance as I saw it, does it mean that it matches his physical appearance during his lifeline as a sage? I don't think so. Maybe he didn't look anything at all like I saw him. Yet in the dream it was enough to convey the message that he was/has been a sage.

And iQ's own confirmation of being a sage (a "hermit of sorts") in one of his previous lifelines is actually more mind blowing to me than the appearance part. I mean simply, how the heck did I know? Or even, why was that piece of information conveyed to me? What is its significance to me in my life? For all I know I may never even get to meet him in my current life! I think the answers to these questions will be revealed in due course, when the time is right, I guess. That is, if there is some meaning behind why I had the experience in the first place.

I wanted to share one more thought on appearance. In the 3D world we perceive ourselves and others in a 3D way, so that we have specific, defined looks. Yet if we were to somehow enter into a 2D world or dimension, we'd all look different -- flatter and linear instead of rounded, right? Similarly, if we were to somehow enter a 4D world, I bet we'd all look unrecognizably different! So much for looks then!

"I was imagining that that moon placement might reflect in your trying extra hard to exercise your reasoning faculty, perhaps trying to balance the more immediate emotional perceptions you may experience life through. It seems you are doing this successfully,"

Yes, I've never had a problem with being able to reason things out and have actually been tested to have pretty high cognitive skills overall, including reasoning, logic, and memory. Not to mention that my schooling and subsequent specialized training have continuously employed reasoning faculties so that my brain is trained in that area through repeat usage.

But there's no formal test that can measure the spiritual tendencies/leanings in a person. My exposure, and therefore my mind's training in spirituality began from a very young age at home due to a loving and spiritually disciplined Mother. I can remember my earliest spiritual experiences beginning at about the age of 4-5 years. Mom encouraged my intuitive faculties which have been honed in my adulthood to a point that I rely on them pretty heavily to make judgments and assessments in my daily life.

"How do you feel about having arrived at your own answers to those previous questions you had? Does that sit well with you? Or do you have any anxiety about them not being "right" in some way?"

Actually, I think both you and Emerald were right, because I already knew these answers even as I wrote the questions. And I feel they make the most sense to me so yes I'm comfortable. If anyone (including iQ) disagrees or sees things differently, I hope they'll chime in to offer a different perspective. I'd welcome it.

Sorry about my long winded reply. But I wanted to share my thoughts fully. Hope you're not bored by it all.

I do have one question that I can't seem to figure out by myself. So if you (or anyone else) have insight into it, I'd love to hear it -

The consistent response to my dream was that it was an "other dimensional" experience rather than a dream about iQ's past lifeline. I wonder what about my description made you and others conclude this. You see my own earlier response to the dream was simply that I saw iQ as a sage in one of his prior lifelines. As I've already mentioned, I admit there's some confusion in my mind related to various specific aspects of the dream, yet I had overall felt that I'd somehow picked up on his being a sage before.

No doubt the explanation of it being an astral experience makes sense. However this concept is still brand new to me and I'm trying to understand whether there's something specific about an astral experience that differentiates it from simply being a dream about someone's past life.

Thank you for your continued patience in helping me sort this through.

When I next get time I'm going to compare the event chart with my natal.

posted June 15, 2012 02:30 PM            

Your dream took place on a Capricorn moon, and my instincts tell me your dream has to do with showing you how you've organized your life (I think of Capricorn as always 2.0ing your life, catching you up with the present time). You see Iq as someone special, the sage reference makes me think of Sagittarius. I think he has opened your mind to new freedoms...a new wormhole of understanding.

posted June 15, 2012 03:16 PM            

I'm not surprised Iq has been a sage. I've been a yogi myself ^^. Many of us are older souls here.. I would see his soul as being more of a sage, and I do tend to think dreams (in the astral realm) as more direct perceptions into reality.

Trying to answer some questions with info..

Forgive me if this is extraneous or I got spacey. Just giving information from my current understanding and research.

"Is it possible that because my Higher Self "saw" your Higher Self in a higher dimension, I also knew about this particular past lifeline of yours? Because the part about your being a sage came across quite clearly in my dream - not only from my own sense but also when I posed the question to the group on the stairs."

I kinda answer this in other questions.

"While we live our lives within the space/time restrictions of the three dimensional world, does our soul/consciousness/Higher Self simultaneously cross barriers to move around, exist in Higher dimensions? I mean do we have obligations and functions to perform in these Higher Realms, while we are also existing in the 3D plane?"

Yes. When people astral project, the soul of the individual speaks with the projector separate of any body conscious awareness. One could be reading a book while the soul was having a side conversation with a projector completely uninterrupted (I think got that from Journeys out of Body?). It's said in dreams souls interact directly when they show up (see Stanford prof Stephen LaBerge for direct soul perception/interaction experiences in astral as well as symbolism, insight, and meaning). Your higher self can operate completely separate of you as well (my experience as well as between life regressions channelings etc).

I'm not sold on Michael Newton's between life regressions, but he mentions soul roles and purposes that you perform in heaven. My higher self has shown up in my room when I had a friend giving me a clairaudient reading, but my soul leaves my body at night and will visit soulmates to cheer them up or give them or myself dreams (experience, the dream part is discussed in life between life regressions). I've had soulmates' higher selves show up to talk to me in clairaudient readings too.

"Do the higher dimensions co-exist with the 3D world and we just cannot "see" them because of lack of conceptualization by our brains?"

My understanding is all the dimensions exist in the palm of your hand and you simultaneously exist in all of them, you're just attuned to the 3rd, and when your third eye opens up you can see into others.. usually the 4rth (fae, auras etc). I have been a fae in past lives and have interacted with them as they can see the 3rd.

" "Which means this was more of an Out of Body experience via your own Higher Version who visits such educational areas in the 4th Dimension."

This would imply that while I'm existing in the 3D world, my Higher Self is simultaneously "visiting" Higher dimensions, right?

If this is true then I think I can now intuitively grasp what all scriptures mean when they say that the knowledge, information, answers are there - we just have to tap into "ourselves" to find them."

My understanding is on higher planes of being all is intuition and one need not study or reason. Should you seek knowledge it is given to you immediately (Autobiography of a Yogi). Also, you're going to have past life memories and hunches, vibes etc as to what something means or having done or read something before. I was huge into Hermeticism in my immediate past life, however I'm not much for it now and would still need to relearn everything.. it would just come faster, kind of like how some souls are good at languages or biology or poetry. My understanding is your soul or higher self or other souls can give you hunches that will feel like your own internal intuitive guidance. Kundalini can also give you more direct insight.

"Does my having experienced being in a Higher Dimension where I "saw" your Higher Self exclude the possibility of my having also known you in your sage lifeline? The familiarity of your energy even before this experience leads me to ask this."

In the life between life regression books, it is said the soul tends to take on the form of a past life it is particularly proud of or identifies more with. For example, supposedly my guides are a wizard and a native american woman when they take a form. You may have known him in that life. Being a soulmate his energy will be familiar regardless (he has a ton so don't get too attached ;p.. also as we get old you know everyone and you become close to many [some paramahansa yogananda book]).

The very fact that you're on this forum leads me to suspect some form of karma brought you here, though that may not be the case. I myself know I have known at least 5 people on this site in past lives. Three people from this site have shown up in my dreams, as soulmates frequently tend to, and I have a feeling I have known more. To be completely frank, when I met Iq I got this nebulous venus sq neptune vibe idolizing him as a person but knowing nothing could come of it. I don't keep in touch with him because he's very busy and it doesn't feel right. I did have a spirit try to tell me that he was someone I was already friends with (my sister also showed up as a parallel incarnation in my life as well.. apparently we're normally married o.O). Sometimes it seems like almost everyone I meet is a soulmate.. the familiarity and the soulmate love popping up in our auras. Being 3.2 billion years old will prolly do that to you ;p (lucid dream and clairaudience).

As for past life validity, you may find University of Virginia Professor Ian Stevenson's past life research intriguing. He went about validating the memories of thousands of children claiming to be someone else in past lives. There is also past life regression information where previously classified military information has been disclosed as well as names and dates.

I think the only thing that can measure soul age is perhaps soul leaning and wisdom. Being very spiritual.. Some people incarnate and are held back in a myriad of ways in order to serve a purpose as teachers on a less well developed plane, and karma necessitates playing opposing cyclical roles that will also blur spiritual truths (as is Saturn's vedic power). It's not uncommon for me or my soulmates to have dreams telling us our purpose for being here is to be a teacher. Just please don't take that literally as mind being a reflection of reality, I see everyone as my teacher (from a psychopath to the buddha). Most of my life I wasn't too intuitive, just big on hunches (too much uranus). I was actually atheist for a very long time until I fell madly in love with a bipolar soulmate.