posted July 31, 2012 05:44 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
It's complicated and the roots of the pentagram stretch into prehistory (some say the first pentagram was the form of seeds at the core of an apple, a once very sacred fruit for multiple reasons, and though the Bible never said such, many Christians even imagine Adam & Eve eating an apple...).

Christianity co-opted the pentagram as the "5 wounds of Christ" (and some churches that have been around for centuries still bear the pentagram) and was used as protection against evil. Of course inverting it, like the cross, came to be seen as evil, a form of dualism that crept into Christianity from a mix of Zoroastrianism (when the Hebrews were slaves in Babylonia) and one of the Ancient Greek philosophers that shaped the Christian Church (I forget which one).

That same dualism also separated the carnal from the spiritual (one of the greatest mistakes of Christianity and related religions, IMO) and this was represented in the pentagram by Christian occultists in the Western Mystery Tradition. Upright it represented (Hu)Man (the 5 points being arms, legs, and head at the top open to God/spirit), but when turned upside down the head then pointed to Hell...and came to be written with the Goat of Mendes (IIRC, a goat in any case) in it and represented an obsession with the carnal over the spiritual. There are many reasons for a goat (the scapegoat of the Israelites to pagan rites involving a goat), and the legs became goat ears or horns, but I don't think that came about until Victorian times (the drawings of Baphomet from before then show him with an upright pentagram and he's more of a symbol of opposites united rather than opposition to God/spirit), and I believe it was Satanists in the 1960s that actually put the goat's face in the pentagram (and the 3 points down also meant rejection of the Christian trinity) and also revised Baphomet and it became very popular (of course Christian fundies probably did more to spread it than Satanists and inspired many would be legend tripping Satanists seeking to rebel against their Christian parents and freak out the adults also started to use the new symbol and confusing the recent innovations with much older occultism of which they had very little understanding of).

In any case I wouldn't think this is applicable to astrology.

But one thing that interests me: I think it was back in the 60s (possibly early 70s) when hippies protested the war at the Pentagon (this was the time of the famous photo of hippies putting flowers in the rifles of I think the National Guard) when Abbie Hoffman spoke of the occult roots of the Pentagon (related to the Pentagram, and the guy who designed it was an occultist, and some say its occult power is why America is a ruling power in the world) he wanted to exorcise the demons from it (later sources say they wanted to levitate it, but an old source say "exorcism") and though their behavior had been tolerated for a couple of days I think (my memory is too vague on this and I'm too lazy to look it up, especially as I believe the story has been altered from what actually happened), when they started their exorcism the National Guard (or whatever) interrupted them and started putting them in jail and carting them away. THAT intrigues me. Why would a group focused on exorcising evil spirits from the Pentagon (and thus not causing trouble in other ways as they had been) evoke such a reaction?

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thanks pixie for pointing that out.that part of the hippies protest is especially interesting.i will definitely look into that

posted August 04, 2012 11:16 AM            

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posted August 04, 2012 04:36 PM            

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Originally posted by planet9:
BTW Ceridwen has a month named after her in the Goddess Calendar.

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Oh wow, I did not know that!
Actually I didnīt know ANYTHING about Ceridwen, when the name "called to me". lol

Well, as it seems the time of my conception fell into Cerridwen`s month.

posted August 04, 2012 08:09 PM            

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posted August 04, 2012 08:59 PM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:
Dont forget he is an mental ill person. An normal person with a chart like him will never do things like this.

Something make him ill and maybe it was his childhood, mental disease or maybe he have an brain injury ....

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posted August 05, 2012 08:12 AM            

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Originally posted by virgolotus:
He was a college student.. Hahaha how could he magically turn into a psycho? Unless...

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No, its just that. You cant always see if an person are sick or not. An persons behaviour or appearance or a chart will never show the whole truth......Both could be false and hide bad trait. Good outlook and a good positive chart is not always good....

I always said, never judge the dog after the hair(swedish term)... because you will never know how the person is before you know him or her....