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Topic: James Holmes / 'Joker' Colorado Massacre
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Randall
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posted July 22, 2012 08:40 AM
  
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted July 22, 2012 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
AMEN.The gun nuts are saying that someone else with a gun could have shot him, but honestly, in the dark, all of the crossfire? Really? @_@
Two between the eyes. Any properly trained soldier, Marine or sailor can take care of that, even in the dark or in crossfire. The qualifier is "properly trained" and not a "nut.". And I'm not advocating military grade weapons either. Guns aren't needed in the Northeast where guns aren't allowed anyway. However, in the midst of places where guns are openly flouted, you can be sure I'll do everything in public to protect my family. And that semiautomatic nonsense has to end. It's way too easy to convert a civilian semiautomatic rifle into a full military grade automatic. Parts are cheap and openly available everywhere. I've walked into a gun shop in Virginia and seen whackjobs walk out with enough firepower to start a war.
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sexyaqua30
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From: USA
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted July 22, 2012 11:18 AM
He should have just offed himself. Those people in the movie theater did not keep you from finding a job you psycopathic idiot. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted July 22, 2012 11:34 AM
My utmost respect to the heroic boyfriend victim. He dove straight at the gun without hesitation to save his girlfriend from certain death. He was killed. His girlfriend didn't get shot, especially when the gun was pointed at her face. His body slumped on top of his girlfriend and shielded her. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted July 22, 2012 11:44 AM
I honestly feel bad for the parents of the shooter, now that I'm thinking about it. From what I've heard, he had a decent childhood and they were decent people (that's what I've heard, anyway). Imagine the shame and pain that they're experiencing, not to mention the hate mail that they're probably getting.IP: Logged |
Nine
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From: The Cusp of Love
Registered: May 2009
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posted July 22, 2012 11:52 AM
^ With Saturn sq Moon & conj Sun heaven knows what pressures they put on him to succeed. With the Moon sq I can just imagine; no affection until you produce.IP: Logged |
enchantress299
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posted July 22, 2012 11:59 AM
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The gun nuts are saying that someone else with a gun could have shot him, but honestly, in the dark, all of the crossfire? Really? @_@
That's right! In the dark AND the smoke (because he set the smoke bombs) AND the fact that he was wearing a suit of bulletproof body armor! Even IF he had been in a theater full of gun-toting nuts, the chances are incredibly high that THEY would end up doing more damage than he would! That's what drives me nuts about the entire discussion. I'm sorry... But having everyone become gun-carriers is NOT the answer. Plus, the only reason this guy was able to get as many guns as he was able to get is because his record was TOTALLY CLEAN. By all accounts, he seemed like an upstanding, intelligent citizen. Sooo... Yeah, no one is going to deny him the right to buy an arsenal. If we actually had decent gun control in this country, it would have been much more difficult for him to pull something like this off. /rant.  As far as the astrology of it... I'm really sad that people are calling Sagittariuses 'sociopaths,' but whatever... Every time something like this happens people try to point to some generic astrology aspect and say: "Yes, that's the reason" to justify their own dislike for some astrological placement or position.  IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted July 22, 2012 12:13 PM
The youngest victim was 6! Its so unfair and cruel! Innocent people had to die to pay for the frustrations of this cretin. He should have killed himself instead. Those people deserved to be alive. That child was having a life to live. I'm speechless.IP: Logged |
iQ
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From: Chennai, India
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 22, 2012 12:13 PM
MK ULTRA.
Yet another "sleeper" got triggered to act.
Top Neuroscientist yet peformed the heinous crime like an elite mercenary, isolated, born on a 13th, clear dissociation in the eyes.
Refuses to be interrogated.HE WAS PROGRAMMED TO KILL. No intelligent man will like to kill children unless he is mind controlled. If he was not programmed, he would have used his smarts and negative mindset to hack into banks or deal in expensive drugs to make money. Anywhere from 100,000 to 250,000 such boys exist. as per testimony of ex-Illuminist SVALI. Timothy Mcveigh, Oswald, Ruby, Sirhan, Chapman, Brievik, the Columbine kids.... just little tips of the iceberg. The astrology in Holmes case is ideal: Pluto conjunct Mars, Sun conjunct Saturn and retrograde Jupiter square Venus to prevent unconditional love from being felt as a means of growth. Asteroid Aspects include [1 degree orb]
1. Nessus square Mercury
2. Nemesis square Lucifer
3. SIVA oppose HEKATE
4. KAALI square RUDRA
5. Uranus oppose Chiron exact, with Uranus conjunct G.C. Dark Soul programmed to become even more dark.... ------------------
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 22, 2012 12:27 PM
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted July 22, 2012 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by enchantress299:
That's right! In the dark AND the smoke (because he set the smoke bombs) AND the fact that he was wearing a suit of bulletproof body armor! :
There were more than enough Sailors in that movie theatre, most of whom have no problem putting two between his eyes. There is no body armor for the face. You underestimate the training of the military. Fighting under smoke conditions is part of all basic training. One of the murder victims was a three year veteran with a tour of duty. He was selected for BUD/S SEAL qualification. His skills were useless without a weapon, with which he would have quickly finished off the psycho. Instead, the nation lost a valued Sailor. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted July 22, 2012 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Innocent people had to die to pay for the frustrations of this cretin.
Rosalind, you're 100% right with that comment. That pretty much sums up everything. And to add to that: he was intelligent and educated. He could have used that for good and done something positive with his life. He wasted those gifts. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted July 22, 2012 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by enchantress299:
That's right! In the dark AND the smoke (because he set the smoke bombs) AND the fact that he was wearing a suit of bulletproof body armor! Even IF he had been in a theater full of gun-toting nuts, the chances are incredibly high that THEY would end up doing more damage than he would! That's what drives me nuts about the entire discussion. I'm sorry... But having everyone become gun-carriers is NOT the answer. Plus, the only reason this guy was able to get as many guns as he was able to get is because his record was TOTALLY CLEAN. By all accounts, he seemed like an upstanding, intelligent citizen. Sooo... Yeah, no one is going to deny him the right to buy an arsenal. If we actually had decent gun control in this country, it would have been much more difficult for him to pull something like this off. /rant. As far as the astrology of it... I'm really sad that people are calling Sagittariuses 'sociopaths,' but whatever... Every time something like this happens people try to point to some generic astrology aspect and say: "Yes, that's the reason" to justify their own dislike for some astrological placement or position.
Agree with you on all counts here. Plus, on top of that, if it was only astrology, everyone else with the same chart/positions would have done the same thing. As I say a lot, you really cannot discount factors outside of astrology, such as upbringing, life experiences, culture, and other circumstances. All are pieces of the puzzle.
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awakemer
Knowflake Posts: 396
From: sherman oaks, ca,USA
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 22, 2012 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by iQ:
MK ULTRA.
Yet another "sleeper" got triggered to act.
Top Neuroscientist yet peformed the heinous crime like an elite mercenary, isolated, born on a 13th, clear dissociation in the eyes.
Refuses to be interrogated.HE WAS PROGRAMMED TO KILL. No intelligent man will like to kill children unless he is mind controlled. If he was not programmed, he would have used his smarts and negative mindset to hack into banks or deal in expensive drugs to make money. Anywhere from 100,000 to 250,000 such boys exist. as per testimony of ex-Illuminist SVALI. Timothy Mcveigh, Oswald, Ruby, Sirhan, Chapman, Brievik, the Columbine kids.... just little tips of the iceberg. The astrology in Holmes case is ideal: Pluto conjunct Mars, Sun conjunct Saturn and retrograde Jupiter square Venus to prevent unconditional love from being felt as a means of growth. Asteroid Aspects include [1 degree orb]
1. Nessus square Mercury
2. Nemesis square Lucifer
3. SIVA oppose HEKATE
4. KAALI square RUDRA
5. Uranus oppose Chiron exact, with Uranus conjunct G.C. Dark Soul programmed to become even more dark....
I think you might be right.
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pancakes22
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posted July 22, 2012 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
There were more than enough Sailors in that movie theatre, most of whom have no problem putting two between his eyes. There is no body armor for the face. You underestimate the training of the military. Fighting under smoke conditions is part of all basic training. One of the murder victims was a three year veteran with a tour of duty. He was selected for BUD/S SEAL qualification. His skills were useless without a weapon, with which he would have quickly finished off the psycho. Instead, the nation lost a valued Sailor.
You over-estimate the military training. The Navy basic training now uses mock rifles with laser sights. To cut down on the cost of ammo. Yes. They fire a glorified equivalent of a laser tag rifle. Being selected for BUD/S does not mean much in regards to combat. It simply means you have just achieved physical training req's. Making it through BUD/S is what would leave you with qualified combat training. With that said. I'm against cun control.
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 22, 2012 02:52 PM
Uranus conj the GC
Wow, think about this
Any ideas?
I have NN conj the GC
This makes me be very interested in things beyond this dimension, I would say.
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12thhouser
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posted July 22, 2012 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by awakemer:
born on 13 December 1987 local time 8:05 am
in San Diego, CA (US) U.T. 16:05
117w09, 32n43 sid. time 13:43:38Planetary positions
planet sign degree motion
Sun Sagittarius 21�06'19 in house 12 direct
Moon Virgo 23�07'38 end of house 8 direct
Mercury Sagittarius 15�44'47 end of house 11 direct
Venus Capricorn 19�21'09 in house 1 direct
Mars Scorpio 12�48'37 in house 10 direct
Jupiter Aries 19�46'11 in house 3 stationary (D)
Saturn Sagittarius 23�18'28 in house 12 direct
Uranus Sagittarius 26�33'21 in house 12 direct
Neptune Capricorn 7�05'53 end of house 12 direct
Pluto Scorpio 11�27'26 in house 10 direct
True Node Pisces 28�24'59 in house 3 direct
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house. House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Capricorn 9�10'33
2nd House Aquarius 16�24'47
3rd House Pisces 25�05'11
Imum Coeli Aries 27�53'59
5th House Taurus 24�04'26
6th House Gemini 16�37'58
Descendant Cancer 9�10'33
8th House Leo 16�24'47
9th House Virgo 25�05'11
Medium Coeli Libra 27�53'59
11th House Scorpio 24�04'26
12th House Sagittarius 16�37'58 Major aspects
Sun Square Moon 2�01
Sun Conjunction Mercury 5�22
Sun Trine Jupiter 1�20
Sun Conjunction Saturn 2�12
Sun Conjunction Uranus 5�27
Moon Square Mercury 7�23
Moon Trine Venus 3�46
Moon Square Saturn 0�11
Moon Square Uranus 3�26
Mercury Trine Jupiter 4�01
Venus Square Jupiter 0�25
Mars Sextile Neptune 5�43
Mars Conjunction Pluto 1�21
Mars Sextile Ascendant 3�38
Jupiter Trine Saturn 3�32
Saturn Conjunction Uranus 3�15
Neptune Sextile Pluto 4�22
Neptune Conjunction Ascendant 2�05
Pluto Sextile Ascendant 2�17
Interestingly, we've now got two birth dates:
http://astrologyandpsychicpredictions.wordpress.com/tag/james-holmes-astrology-chart/ How did you find the birth time?
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12thhouser
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posted July 22, 2012 05:37 PM
A friend of mine on Facebook (a comic book fan) posted this:"Yesterday I read issue one of Detective Comics from the rebooted DC Comics "new 52" line. In it, the Joker lures authorities and Batman to a room that's booby-trapped with a bomb. Coincidence?" Not sure if it's been mentioned, but James Holmes was said by colleagues to play role-playing games on the computer a lot. IP: Logged |
T
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posted July 22, 2012 05:45 PM
Well then why is it said that when the cops found him, he meekly gave up without a fight?Did he not plan out that part? Guy should have blown his own head off from the get-go. Why take out so many innocent people? I'm glad he didnt start firing at police and kill some of them too. And he told them about his booby-trapped apartment. I bet the cops interrogated him so badly he cried as he told them. This is some of the most disturbing news/events to come forth in a long time. Makes me embarassed and sad to be human. What is going wrong with the world and it's people? What happened to this person?  IP: Logged |
intriguingineveryway
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From: USA
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 22, 2012 05:49 PM
So he had a good childhood, seems to have had a good life, and still chose to take people's lives?IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
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posted July 22, 2012 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by intriguingineveryway:
So he had a good childhood, seems to have had a good life, and still chose to take people's lives?
that's what chills me the most, honestly parents and upbringing influence a child quite a bit, but ultimately, they have to let go, and kids will make their own choices IP: Logged |
mercuranian
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From: the 12th house
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 22, 2012 06:07 PM
Not defending this psycho in any way, but SERIOUSLY, how do you guys know he had a good childhood? Because his parents SAY so? Come on...IP: Logged |
friture
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posted July 22, 2012 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
He wasted those gifts.
Exactly what I thought. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 22, 2012 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by mercuranian:
Not defending this psycho in any way, but SERIOUSLY, how do you guys know he had a good childhood? Because his parents SAY so? Come on...
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T
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posted July 22, 2012 06:41 PM
I also liked that comment. You have to take into account his upbringing. There's never a way around that. Whether the kid commits suicide, or murders a bunch of people, there will always be something stemming from childhood, I think. Then again you have people that have come from horrible upbringings that have turned out to be saints. Still, I think with this guy, there is some (most likely sexual) abuse from his past. He was made to feel powerless. IP: Logged |
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