posted July 31, 2012 04:08 PM            

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** she's the horizontal person.

posted July 31, 2012 04:23 PM            

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Originally posted by vickymadness:
Her venus exactly conjunct his mars , says it all :/

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posted July 31, 2012 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by redshift:
I'm just philosophizing what happens when you have amazing synastry with someone, but one of you is attractive and the other is very unattractive. I've been wondering how it would manifest. I know we should say we are all beautiful, but what if you weren't. What if you were disfigured, or just extremely unfortunate physically or extremely obese...and the other was conventionally gorgeous. Do you think that strong synastry would still have effects? Would desire and love aspects transmute into empathy and curiosity maybe? Or would animal nature elminiate the power of the heavens?

And what's the difference if the man is the beauty versus if the woman is the beauty? Often we find beautiful women seeing the beauty in beastly men, but the other way around ever? Can synastry have that power? What aspects? What do you think?

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Excellent question!

Personally, I don't get all of the issues that people have with age gaps, provided that both parties are over 18 and genuinely care for each other. I don't get why people freak out over a 20 year difference. Now, 30 or 40 or so years difference, maybe I could understand people being uncomfortable, but not 20. I think, too, that it depends on the ages of the couple. Someone who was 30 with a partner of 50 would be different than someone who was 18 with a partner of 38 or 40, to me.

I honestly don't know if love or human nature would win. It would probably depend on the couple and also on how bad it was/what it was. And, too, some people do have really odd kinks and fetishes, so some people might actually prefer someone outside of the norm, even someone normally considered unappealing, which leads to my next point: beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's so highly subjective.

It would be much more likely, though, for a less attractive man paired with an attractive women than the reverse. Men are much more demanding about looks and less forgiving than women are--there are exceptions on both sides, obviously, but generally speaking, that's how it works.

Also, I wonder how same-sex couples would fare? Or how it would work for bisexual, pansexual, transpeople, and people on the asexual spectrum, and people who are 'grays'? Does orientation makes any difference? Would people on the asexuality spectrum, for example, be more forgiving, since it's harder for us to find suitable partners (in terms of someone matching our sexual preferences)?

posted July 31, 2012 05:37 PM            

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Originally posted by redshift:
I'm just philosophizing what happens when you have amazing synastry with someone, but one of you is attractive and the other is very unattractive. I've been wondering how it would manifest. I know we should say we are all beautiful, but what if you weren't. What if you were disfigured, or just extremely unfortunate physically or extremely obese...and the other was conventionally gorgeous. Do you think that strong synastry would still have effects? Would desire and love aspects transmute into empathy and curiosity maybe? Or would animal nature elminiate the power of the heavens?

And what's the difference if the man is the beauty versus if the woman is the beauty? Often we find beautiful women seeing the beauty in beastly men, but the other way around ever? Can synastry have that power? What aspects? What do you think?

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Well, the concept of beauty is very different to each. But I don't think that in those beauty and the beast scenario (labelled as such by others of course) there is a higher number of outstanding synastry aspect that would make them end up together (not more than any other couple actually).
I think what matters most, more than the actual synastry, is our natal chart and what we're looking for, value most in a potential partner. I think the cases of amazing synastry where two people don't end up together, regardless of whether it's an attractiveness issue, are mostly because they don't fit each other criteria of what hey're looking for.

posted July 31, 2012 06:43 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
Well, the concept of beauty is very different to each. But I don't think that in those beauty and the beast scenario (labelled as such by others of course) there is a higher number of outstanding synastry aspect that would make them end up together (not more than any other couple actually).
I think what matters most, more than the actual synastry, is our natal chart and what we're looking for, value most in a potential partner. I think the cases of amazing synastry where two people don't end up together, regardless of whether it's an attractiveness issue, are mostly because they don't fit each other criteria of what hey're looking for.

In the example of Aaron Johnson has an aquarius moon and a taurus venus. Usually the moon can be very telling of the type of woman a man would be looking for long term wise. With an aquarius moon it certainly is an unconventional beauty, more focused on the mind or the intellect. Sam Taylor certainly embodies this to him.

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That's a really good point about the importance of the natal chart.

I don't think age is exactly what I'm wondering about. I don't see it as that much of a barrier. People can be older and still very attractive.

I also like RegardesPlato's point about transgender or others along the spectrum of sexuality maybe having less of a pool to choose from. I had not considered that.

I guess the big question is how powerful can great synastry be when there are huge non-astrology factors against it and how does that synastry manifest, because surely it must somehow. Again though, I think Ueharaa made an excellent point about the natal chart being the real decider. So what are some of the biggies in a Natal chart that makes a person open to very unconventional relationships?

posted July 31, 2012 07:21 PM            

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Originally posted by vickymadness:
Her venus exactly conjunct his mars , says it all :/

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I think his Sun opposing her Moon speaks more volumes.

posted August 01, 2012 12:21 AM            

Actually, I think that synastry involving the 5th, 7th and 8th houses are what activates synastry in a romantic way. What I mean is, it's possible to have a Venus/Mars conjunction with somebody and not be attracted to them.... But if a person activates the romance houses in your chart (5th,7th and 8th), it's like they 'awaken' the rest of your synastry to whatever potential sexual chemistry the two of you have... And if you have, say, a Venus/Mars conjunction it'll take on a romantic flavor...

From what I've observed house ruler synastry opens the door to romance, and if you have the planetary synastry to back it up (like Sun/Moon, or Venus/Mars for example)a full fledged attraction can develop. This can occur within a wide range of differences in physical perfection....

But I do suspect there is a range, and most people will not go for someone outrageously less attractive then themselves. It's not impossible but it's unlikely. I remember watching a documentary about how there are scientific studies showing that people naturally choose partners of similar attractiveness. It has to do with the power balance in the relationship.... That's why rich old people can sometimes snag pretty young things. Their power comes from wealth rather then beauty.

posted August 01, 2012 12:47 AM            

They have a big age difference and are definitely an unexpected couple… Her Uranus is tightly square his Sun, and his Uranus is tightly square her Venus… There are some other Uranus aspects too that I can’t be bothered going into… I think the Uranus synastry shows how they see each other as special and unique, one of a kind, and why they are willing to flout conventional expectations to be together…

Also, the stronger your syanstry is with somebody, the wider the range of physical beauty you are will to cross to be with that person… If a person only has a single Mars/Moon sextile with you, the range of physical beauty you are willing to cross to be with them would be less, then if they also had a Sun/Moon conjunction, a Venus/Mars trine, and then a Mars/Moon sextile with you… The more physical attraction aspects you have with somebody, the more you are likely to disregard surface beauty to be with that person. They become so magnetic to you on an energy level it’s like you stop caring, because they are worth it for you. I hope this makes sense.

Aaron Johnson and Sam Taylor have two extremely tight and potent attraction aspects in their synastry… They are so attracted on an energy level that he is willing to disregard the age difference.

posted August 01, 2012 02:24 AM            

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Her Uranus is tightly square his Sun, and his Uranus is tightly square her Venus…

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posted August 01, 2012 03:34 PM            

Pluto for her
Uranus for him

Also no saturn contacts to personal planets for him.

Her saturn only hits his mercury.

Mars venus conjunct clearly indicates a romantic relationship.

posted August 01, 2012 03:43 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
From a MAGI-perspective it's very clear (romantically & sexually) why they're together (just looking in the geo-long & dec.) In case someone is truly interested and has a basic knowlegde of MAGI (otherwise I'm just talking in the air) I will elaborate on this .. takes some time, that's why

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im curious. what magi aspects/transits do they have going for them?

posted August 01, 2012 07:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Thefish:
Interesting that their chart rulers don't connect.

Pluto for her
Uranus for him

Also no saturn contacts to personal planets for him.

Her saturn only hits his mercury.

Mars venus conjunct clearly indicates a romantic relationship.

I just don't see binding ties here.

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