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peregrine
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posted February 07, 2013 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@mothballs, is this virgo rising? anyway..

Tian Liang in Ming

The person's appearance and features are delicate and pretty. The individual is intelligent, acute of sight and hearing, bright, clever and smart. He or she is honest and frank. The native of this star is genial, good-natured and mild. In all matters the person emphasises justice, fairness, reason, logic and truth. Handling stuff and dealing with things the individual with Tian Liang in Ming is forever partial to reason and sound judgement. As a result, the native is everywhere welcomed and accepted and admitted to membership by the great bulk of the population. The person has an inherent affinity with organisations, teams, groups, fellowships, wherein he or she can take up a leading position; to be a leader.

Tian Liang and Tai Yang: In behaviour and conduct the native is zealous, friendly, easy-mannered and magnanimous. Big-heartedly and generously the person assists and helps other people. The individual is upright, firm, unyielding and staunch. Re speech the native is outspoken and straightforward and easy being in contact with. The person is open-minded, easy-going, optimistic, cheerful and generous. He or she does not take part in disputes and bickering with other people. The individual lays equal stress on both money and status.
http://zwdsastrology.blogspot.com/2011/11/tian-liang-in-ming.html

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posted February 07, 2013 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not much in health about ur illness. maybe transit but this is like cafe astrology of chinese astro i am doing.i mean cafe astro is still correct if just a bit general u know what i mean..

Lian Zhen in Health

During infancy/childhood the native comes across ache and pain to do with sores and skin ulcers, etc. Skin ulcers and sores are liable to fester and ulcerate. When an adult, the person can heal and recover completely. The waist or the feet are somewhat obstructed.

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posted February 07, 2013 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tai Yin in Wealth

Tai Yin... [?]. This star equates with the moon, hence being born during the night is the most reassuring. If Tai Yin is alone in the Wealth palace, the person has predestined affinity with money and riches. Should the native not be energetic and vigorous at work or in his or her career and profession, things still go unusually smoothly. Also, making a profit the individual frequently makes more than the quota.

If Tai Yin has a high rating in the Wealth palace, the native happens upon a lifetime of affluence. In the case of Tai Yin having a low rating in this palace the person is unable to hold on to money and wealth. Or the money goes to the individual's children or other people.

Tai Yin # Ke: A woman... [?]. A man having Tai Yin # Ke in Wealth obtains assistance and backing from his wife to get hold of money and riches.

^lol they left out the woman part... /shrug

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posted February 07, 2013 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^; that's what I read ~ woot I was on the right track there~

I wrote the link wrong haha sorry bout that

freehoro

see if that's it~ ^^; I'm horrible lately... >.< ugh *focusfocusfocus*

the health is more on target than you'd expect~ consider the thymus, it rests just above the waistline under our ribs/lungs... my feet are troubled when I don't drink enough, I get incredibly painful cramps (I only found out recently it was dehydration that causes it! whah? yeah~ and I'm the nurse here... blah) ~ >.< the ulcers to the skin could have to do with thyroiditis, a lot of people connect their increase in acne to the odd hormonal/endocrine changes... I'm partial to that being a cause, but it's usually dismissed... idky tho - it would make sense that one effects the other... either way - I was lacking diagnosis for a long time, and did struggle with this in the beginning, before knowing why these things were happening! ^^; The thyroid disease could have and should have been noticed when I was 19 in the military~

this stuff is pretty accurate so far that I've seen... a lot of these star combinations, especially my child, travel, and spouse palaces... I wish I knew of these readings sooner~ honestly.

I'm quite impressed though I still lack understanding, and struggle to grasp the formula used to calculate these aspects... they're still falling into place with, well... Western system aspect interpretation and my actual experiences so far...

I'll keep studying~ <3

and, you called me bro first~ >.>;

I like calling you 007/Bond <.< it's so you!

haha I can't call you Sultan under that handle... no alliteration! X_X not so fun haha and I can't call you Dandy for the same sort of reason... and I don't want to use monsieur/mister... it defeats the purpose of you using that screen name~ >.>; I haven't though of anything else but falco --- XD (taking the animal kingdom peregrine association) ^^;

g'nite/g'day, and ty again!~

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posted February 07, 2013 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^never knew that link! you out research me everytime!

i am very lucky in happiness and sppuse it seems ladeeda!!! ladeeda!!!

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posted February 07, 2013 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<3333

I've got a whole folder dedicated to stars and another for bazi --- (I didn't know whether to put stars in bazi though or keep them separate... lol) I rummage the net, and ain't afraid of using other languages and the odd and unknown search engine... I find weird things sometimes... but, you can't validate them unless you understand them, right?!

Sooooo, I'm lucky to have you~ <3

see, IoU!!! ^^

gotta go nini!~

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posted February 07, 2013 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that site is great. i learned how to do it manually so i just go to the readings directly.

you can't read the ones in black bolded texts outright tho. they may not pertain to your chart. never looked into the trines though. only the positions on which house.

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posted February 07, 2013 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Tian ji: The eyebrows are thin and slender, the eyes keen and pointed. The forehead is broad, the palate narrow."

My eyebrows are full and arched.
My eyes are wide like cherry pies
I got a taste for men who're older
It's always been so it's no surprise

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posted February 07, 2013 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although I have to say its close to a gemini/virgo asc

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posted February 08, 2013 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces Adonis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
<3333

I've got a whole folder dedicated to stars and another for bazi --- (I didn't know whether to put stars in bazi though or keep them separate... lol) I rummage the net, and ain't afraid of using other languages and the odd and unknown search engine... I find weird things sometimes... but, you can't validate them unless you understand them, right?!

Sooooo, I'm lucky to have you~ <3

see, IoU!!! ^^

gotta go nini!~


Hhhhmm what placement in Chinese Astrology affect physical appearance?

I'm a Xin (Yin Metal) according to Day Master.

Hour Earth Pig

Day and Month Rabbit (can't remember what element)

Year Water Monkey.

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posted February 08, 2013 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
r u metrosexual?

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posted February 08, 2013 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces Adonis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peregrine:
r u metrosexual?

No I'm not Metro if you mean Androgynous lol (though I do love Romance thanks to my Leo Moon and Pisces Venus).

I can be described as being softer than 1st Scorpio Risers in appearance (I don't have that hawk stern nose,etc) and I'm in the Pisces Decan of Scorpio Rising.

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posted February 08, 2013 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have falcon nose.

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posted February 08, 2013 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces Adonis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peregrine:
i have falcon nose.

Hhhhmmm XDDD I didn't realize Peregrine was a kind of bird lol.

But I'd assume Yin Metal are andorgynous based on your post?

Also are you and Sand the same person?

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posted February 08, 2013 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Xin Metal is represented by fine jewellery, small knives, diamonds and glittering gold. Think Cartier, Bulgari and Swiss Army knife and you're not far off. Xin Metal people are inherently talkative and attention seeking. Wallflower is the consummate opposite of the Xin Metal person - indeed, if you're dating a quiet Xin Metal, then something's wrong with them! All Xin Metal's exhibit some measure of vanity, be it intellectual,or physical. The Xin Metal person is always thinking and their mind needs constant stimulation and occupation. They come in-born with a superiority complex, and can be quite bourgeois in their ways, loving the fine things in life.

The Xin Metal woman can be a challenge to handle - ice princess, snobbish, and egalitarian, these are some of the words that describe the Xin Metal woman. The Xin Metal woman has absolutely no tolerance for fools, and an even lower tolerance for a lack of class. She demands intellectual stimulation and places a high premium on her man being her equal, if not better than her. She will not get off her high-horse on this matter so either catch up, or don't even bother to put yourself in contention for her affections. The Xin Metal woman can talk dirty with the best of them, but at the same time, presents the image of purity and propriety. Romance is integral to succeeding with the Xin Metal woman - wine and dine her, put a little glamour and spectacle in your courtship, display some intelligence in your romance strategy, and most importantly, show a little old-fashioned gentlemanliness. If you get all this together, she'll deign to descend from her ivory tower. Until then, begone unworthy one. Be forewarned if you should cross the Xin Metal woman - prepare for death by a thousand cuts for the Xin Metal woman is the consummate plotter-schemer.

The Xin metal man is the consummate vainpot - indeed, many Xin Metal men are often accidentally assumed to be gay, because they tend to exhibit metrosexual tendencies. They are fussy about small things, typically have lots of opinions, can be petty, are highly animated, and are talkative. They also love being the center of attention. If you are dating a Xin Metal man, make sure you have a his and hers closet and separate mirror, or his and hers bookshelves for Xin Metal men are either physically vain or intellectually vain. Nuances, subtlety and good taste are extremely important to the Xin Metal man, and they loath ostentatiousness and vulgarity of any sort. This doesn't mean they are puritanical - it just means whilst everyone else does bawdy, they do sexyback. The Xin Metal man likes to be intellectually challenged and they like nothing more than a good debate. So the silent type of woman really doesn't work with a Xin Metal man, who can talk the hind legs of a donkey. But remember at the end of the day, Mr Xin Metal hates to be wrong. So challenge, excite and debate with him, but always make him feel like he comes out tops.

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posted February 08, 2013 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
p.s. i am cuter than this sand fellow you speak of.

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posted February 08, 2013 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces Adonis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peregrine:
Xin Metal is represented by fine jewellery, small knives, diamonds and glittering gold. Think Cartier, Bulgari and Swiss Army knife and you're not far off. Xin Metal people are inherently talkative and attention seeking. Wallflower is the consummate opposite of the Xin Metal person - indeed, if you're dating a quiet Xin Metal, then something's wrong with them! All Xin Metal's exhibit some measure of vanity, be it intellectual,or physical. The Xin Metal person is always thinking and their mind needs constant stimulation and occupation. They come in-born with a superiority complex, and can be quite bourgeois in their ways, loving the fine things in life.

The Xin Metal woman can be a challenge to handle - ice princess, snobbish, and egalitarian, these are some of the words that describe the Xin Metal woman. The Xin Metal woman has absolutely no tolerance for fools, and an even lower tolerance for a lack of class. She demands intellectual stimulation and places a high premium on her man being her equal, if not better than her. She will not get off her high-horse on this matter so either catch up, or don't even bother to put yourself in contention for her affections. The Xin Metal woman can talk dirty with the best of them, but at the same time, presents the image of purity and propriety. Romance is integral to succeeding with the Xin Metal woman - wine and dine her, put a little glamour and spectacle in your courtship, display some intelligence in your romance strategy, and most importantly, show a little old-fashioned gentlemanliness. If you get all this together, she'll deign to descend from her ivory tower. Until then, begone unworthy one. Be forewarned if you should cross the Xin Metal woman - prepare for death by a thousand cuts for the Xin Metal woman is the consummate plotter-schemer.

The Xin metal man is the consummate vainpot - indeed, many Xin Metal men are often accidentally assumed to be gay, because they tend to exhibit metrosexual tendencies. They are fussy about small things, typically have lots of opinions, can be petty, are highly animated, and are talkative. They also love being the center of attention. If you are dating a Xin Metal man, make sure you have a his and hers closet and separate mirror, or his and hers bookshelves for Xin Metal men are either physically vain or intellectually vain. Nuances, subtlety and good taste are extremely important to the Xin Metal man, and they loath ostentatiousness and vulgarity of any sort. This doesn't mean they are puritanical - it just means whilst everyone else does bawdy, they do sexyback. The Xin Metal man likes to be intellectually challenged and they like nothing more than a good debate. So the silent type of woman really doesn't work with a Xin Metal man, who can talk the hind legs of a donkey. But remember at the end of the day, Mr Xin Metal hates to be wrong. So challenge, excite and debate with him, but always make him feel like he comes out tops.


XDDD that totally sounds like my Moon in Leo (except my Pisces placements mellow it down A LOOOOOTTTTT) lol!!!!

I head the Day Masters also affect physical characteristics like Rising Sign does.

I have many traits associated with Scorpio Rising dark skinned, dark hair, and above average athleticism (rapidly reaching Lean Build ATM ).

Also what can be mellowing down my Yin Metal traits?Is it my Secret Animal Pig and having Two Pillars in Rabbit?

ALso what is the traits of Secret Animal-specifically Earth Pig? I head Hour Pig and Monkey year clash and are harmful placements.

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posted February 08, 2013 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm not sure if it does. it was never my interest in studying bazi so i know nothing of deciphering physical characteristics from the four pillars. i think we are supposed to be "striking" if i remember some readings right. i.e. angelina jolie, lady gaga

there is daymaster strength. u can be a weak xin metal. weak isn't bad depending on the stars/ transits mind you. i am strong but just barely i think.

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posted February 08, 2013 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

^these are the clashes... from the animals u mentioned you have none.

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posted February 08, 2013 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lf tian xing in the other link and read up to no. 1. Gem rising ryt?

Yes I'm a Gem asc

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posted February 08, 2013 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes I'm a Gem asc

Wicked Star (Lian Zhen)
The representative of the star is Fei Zhong, the traitor of Zhou Wang. He handles wickedness and distortion. The one is tall and strong and with beauty of wildness. He/she has good ability to memorize, likes to adventure and gamble. And he is dissolute.

Star Name Dou Fen Five Element Yin/Yang Master Good/Bad/Delight/Taboo
Lian Zhen North Five Wood and Fire Yin Imprisonment In life palace, it masters sub Tao Hua; in career palace, it masters career


I Characteristics of the Star

1. Figure and temper
(1)Figure
  1. Tall and strong. The eyes are bright and piercing.
  2. The woman is delicate, pretty and modest.
(2)Temper
  Hard style in drifting management, free and easy, indomitable, adventureful, variable。

2. Characters
(1) Maniac person
 informal, heroic, sturdy, dissipated and fearsome
(2)Five Ghosts (Wu Gui)
 The star is insubordinate. The one does not fear in terrible situation. He/she does not care about judgment that people do for him/her. In addition, the one has good human relation. It would be better for him to be employed by someone.
(3)Tao Hua (love)
  The job of the one always has to contact with the opposite sex, for example, clerk, airhostess and so on.
   
(4)For a woman
For a woman, she has good temperament. She is delicate and pretty but not gorgeous. When the star meets Mercury, it means the one will keep distance from the opposite sex for the whole life.
(5)Career
 It is the best for the star to sit in this palace. The one will have good performance in job, especially in the administrative unit.
(6) Liu Ji
1. It is good for the star to meet Chang and Qu star for the one will be polite and like music. Yet the emotion of the one will not be smooth and the one has short life.
2. If the star meets Jiang star, the one will have great authority. He/she must notice the stubbornness.
(7) Liu Sha
  1. When the star meets Di Jie »Sort.T» or Di Kong »Nullité.T», the one will have a job with high position.
  2. Has week resistance to Si Sha for it will be affected.
(8)Si Hua
  1. It is bad to meet Hua Ji »Nuage» in the same palace for the one might encounter difficulty. All the stars fear to meet Hua Ji »Nuage», yet Lian Chen »furie», Wu Qu »danse» and Tian Ji »moteur» fear Hua Ji very much.
  2 Hua Lu »Fortune» tends to the fate of love (Tao Hua).


II Explanation of the Palace

1. Life
(1) Suitable for the job of public office.
(2) The one has potential short-tempered character. It can be changed with the education.
(3) The one has good human relations.

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posted February 08, 2013 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pisces Adonis:
Hhhhmmm XDDD I didn't realize Peregrine was a kind of bird lol.

But I'd assume Yin Metal are andorgynous based on your post?

Also are you and Sand the same person?


I have yang fire horse daymaster. I'm androgynous physically. although a lot of people are surprised by how manly I can be. idk if I feel manly, but I know I'm daring.

Your feminine energy strong, I thought you were a lady even if your name would suggest otherwise, no offense of course!!!!!

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