posted August 17, 2012 11:32 AM            

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posted August 17, 2012 11:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, the Manticore
We agree on Chiron lol

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Great minds

posted August 17, 2012 11:45 AM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:
@Junethird

With Chiron it really depends how "far along" the person is in the process of coping with it in determining their behavior and manifestation of it. Like if they are more in the early stages and they are focusing on being wounded, or the later stages where they are kind of "owning" it and begin using it to heal others. Of course it is also possible to be somewhere in the middle where I think most people are, doing both . I agree with Ami Anne that you can never fully "heal" your Chiron wound, but you wouldn't want to as then you would lose all that healing power .

You may not give yourself enough credit for your actions, especially in the area of Taurus things. So yeah it is very likely that you won't let others "help" you or maybe even give you credit? Whereas you easily give others credit and acknowledge their deeds?

Sorry about your friend .

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@Manticore,

Yes i agree... I do water down my accomplishments, altho i like compliments in genral it makes me very very shy when iam acknowledged or given just accolades for my work. I prefer receiving it as a whole group, team effort than singled out

Yes i champion the underdog. I like pumping somone up and grooming them for their big moment in the spotlight lol

So trying to embrace credit for my accomplishments etc would be to my detriment as it would prolly go to my head and ill be arrogant and supreme lol

What do you think of chiron in the 3H then?

posted August 17, 2012 12:15 PM            

The "whole group, team effort" thing actually sounds like a Dog trait IMO. Dogs like to help out the team, and don't like to let the team down ever . Also now that I think about it not crediting oneself is also a Dog trait, they are usually very understated and humble, and they don't like to "toot their own horn". So both of those things may apply and it may be a combination of both.

Chiron in the 3rd house... I would think this person may have difficulty learning or communicating, but may later be a good teacher and help others who struggle to communicate. Also they may be easily wounded/offended by neighbors or siblings. School may also be a hardship for them growing up. Possibly they are bothered by short-distance travel as well, like going to the store, or driving to work?

posted August 17, 2012 12:22 PM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:
@Junethird

The "whole group, team effort" thing actually sounds like a Dog trait IMO. Dogs like to help out the team, and don't like to let the team down ever . Also now that I think about it not crediting oneself is also a Dog trait, they are usually very understated and humble, and they don't like to "toot their own horn". So both of those things may apply and it may be a combination of both.

Chiron in the 3rd house... I would think this person may have difficulty learning or communicating, but may later be a good teacher and help others who struggle to communicate. Also they may be easily wounded/offended by neighbors or siblings. School may also be a hardship for them growing up. Possibly they are bothered by short-distance travel as well, like going to the store, or driving to work?

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Omg... Does that mean iam going to be a total stage mom?! Oh dear heavens, no!! lol.

I actually blame my venus 12H i like to hide and work behind the scenes alot... My other detriment is mars in libra kinda reinforces that. Subtle manipulation lol

posted August 17, 2012 12:37 PM            

lol, how did you get "stage mom" out of that?

"i like to hide and work behind the scenes alot"

^^I would think the 6th house and where its ruler falls would be more indicative of your work environment preferences?

I thought you had Chiron in the 1st? or are you talking about someone else's Chiron?

posted August 17, 2012 12:45 PM            

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Originally posted by crissyx89:
sun conjunct sun moon conjunct asc sounds like soulmate aspects.Whoa you and your ex's relationship sounded intense.Have you pulled up your composite?Because me and my ex also had amazing synastry but then our composite chart kinda not so good.

I think my aries asc makes me more straight forward when dealing with guys.I don't sugar coat things,I let them know what I want and expect out of the relationship.

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@crissy,

Our syn/comp wa s ok.. Prolly more volatile than anything else lol. composite Venus in gemini is the real kicker... A superficial, 2 faced love affair... The magic/meant to be in each others life is more in the asteroid placements. Its very fascinating. I understand his purpose and alot of things make more sense. The timing was not coincidence lol

posted August 17, 2012 12:54 PM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:
@Junethird

lol, how did you get "stage mom" out of that?

"i like to hide and work behind the scenes alot"

^^I would think the 6th house and where its ruler falls would be more indicative of your work environment preferences?

I thought you had Chiron in the 1st? or are you talking about someone else's Chiron?

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Yes i have chiron in the 1st... Just trying to relate my chiron touches into my life and that what i came up with... Working behind the scenes is what i prefer... Making sure eveyone is doing what needs to be doing to get the job done.

The stage mom part makes me wonder if it relates to chiron in any sense? I think my mom was a stage mom, she was overly involved lol but i cant be sure since her birth time is only an approx?!

posted August 17, 2012 01:43 PM            

I can see some similarities between stage moms and Chiron. Stage moms are usually trying to make up for their own lack of accomplishment in a certain thing by "coaching" their child incessantly. Chiron does a similar thing by healing others wounds of the same kind, but never healing itself.

Her Chiron in the 10th makes me think maybe her wounds were out in public for everyone to see? She might have also had a reputation of being "damaged", or maybe she had a career that involved healing others?

posted August 17, 2012 01:59 PM            

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@Junethird

I can see some similarities between stage moms and Chiron. Stage moms are usually trying to make up for their own lack of accomplishment in a certain thing by "coaching" their child incessantly. Chiron does a similar thing by healing others wounds of the same kind, but never healing itself.

Her Chiron in the 10th makes me think maybe her wounds were out in public for everyone to see? She might have also had a reputation of being "damaged", or maybe she had a career that involved healing others?

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Oooh thats good. Chiron =wounds i have to remember that better... Mmm. Her earlier before marriage carreer... She was an aerobics teacher. Now she is all about safety training.

posted August 17, 2012 02:17 PM            

"Now she is all about safety training."

Interesting! A career that is all about teaching people to avoid wounds, makes sense .

"How does she heal her wound? How does she embrace it?"

Hmmm, something that comes to mind may be something like public therapy? As in maybe group therapy sessions where she can put her wounds "out there" (10th) and she can receive some sensitivity (pisces) to them. As she has difficulty (chiron) with being sensitive (pisces) and understanding with herself. Also this would help her to use it positively and heal the other people.

posted August 17, 2012 02:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Yes i have chiron in the 1st... Just trying to relate my chiron touches into my life and that what i came up with... Working behind the scenes is what i prefer... Making sure eveyone is doing what needs to be doing to get the job done.

The stage mom part makes me wonder if it relates to chiron in any sense? I think my mom was a stage mom, she was overly involved lol but i cant be sure since her birth time is only an approx?!

Her chiron falls in Pisces 10H

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Chiron in the 1st
Were you bullied?

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posted August 17, 2012 02:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Chiron in the 1st
Were you bullied?

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@Ami,

posted August 17, 2012 03:04 PM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:
@Junethird

"Now she is all about safety training."

Interesting! A career that is all about teaching people to avoid wounds, makes sense .

"How does she heal her wound? How does she embrace it?"

Hmmm, something that comes to mind may be something like public therapy? As in maybe group therapy sessions where she can put her wounds "out there" (10th) and she can receive some sensitivity (pisces) to them. As she has difficulty (chiron) with being sensitive (pisces) and understanding with herself. Also this would help her to use it positively and heal the other people.

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Very interesting... I will Inform her and see what she says lol... She is amused by my interest in astrology lol

Intersting brother1 has his chiron cancer 10H
And brother2 has chiron gemini 7h at 0' 55

So would chiron on 1st be more like wearing your wounds on your persona, since the asc is the mask, the face we present to the world.

posted August 17, 2012 03:58 PM            

Cool, tell me what she says .

I have Chiron in Cancer as well, difficulty in comforting and nurturing oneself. Also feeling like you are unloved and don't belong in your family . Also possibly easily hurt by the mother.

Chiron in Gemini, these people have difficulty speaking, so they will go from being basically mute, to where you can't get them to shut up! lol

(Chiron 1st) Yes it is on your "face" so to speak, it is part of your first approach to things .

posted August 17, 2012 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
@Ami,

No

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OK Chiron in the 1st can be some wound we wear on the outside, whether emotional or physcial.

Chiron conj the ASC is often being bullied.

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posted August 17, 2012 04:32 PM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:
@Junethird

Cool, tell me what she says .

I have Chiron in Cancer as well, difficulty in comforting and nurturing oneself. Also feeling like you are unloved and don't belong in your family . Also possibly easily hurt by the mother.

Chiron in Gemini, these people have difficulty speaking, so they will go from being basically mute, to where you can't get them to shut up! lol

(Chiron 1st) Yes it is on your "face" so to speak, it is part of your first approach to things .

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And my approach to things is by cheering and encouraging people... Right?

As for brother 1 that's good. He is he youngest and a huge age gap. But him and my mom are very close. She understand him a lot. He just frustrates me lol brother 2 he doesn't talk much unless its to play devils advocate. You say yes he will automatically say no lol.

posted August 17, 2012 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OK Chiron in the 1st can be some wound we wear on the outside, whether emotional or physcial.

Chiron conj the ASC is often being bullied.

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Ok. I don't have any physical wounds.

Would I attract wounded people to my persona?

I've never been bullied, teased yeah, who hasn't but not bullied. I was just a quiet shy kid growing up. My childhood wasnt rough or anything like that. I still have quite the same friends from childhood/university.

posted August 17, 2012 06:47 PM            

Jupiter Retrograde

* has doubts about what they deserve and so ...
* finds it easy to settle for crumbs
* feels superior in some way inside
* abundance is felt on the inside
* looks inside for answers to religious questions

Saturn Retrograde

* feels inside that they're never good enough
* indulgent outward behavior may mask inner feelings of inadequacy
* hides fears

Uranus Retrograde

* reconsiders outward expressions of rebelliousness
* feels inside that they are different
* outward conformist behavior masks inner feelings of non-conformity or ...
* goes out of their way to upset others apple carts
* has a difficult time finding their niche in society

Neptune Retrograde

* feels guilty inside and so ....
* tends to blame themselves when things go wrong
* super sensitive inside and so .....
* puts on a tough skinned mask

Pluto Retrograde

* keeps their chin up during crisis because .....
* they want to keep inner upheavals private
* they get what they want by acting like they don't care

When your North and South Nodes are retrograde, you have a strong indication that these lessons have carried forward over several previous lifetimes.

Makes sense... maybe I'm on this path for the 7'th time ... was born on 7th day of June but it's more than that, sometimes i get all kind of signs on the 7'th day - especially in July (being the 7'th month of the year) - which can also be influenced by the planet representative for that day - and this year was the worst so far - cause the 7'th day was on Saturday (Saturn's day) - being 29 with Saturn in a close position to the one i had at birth...

So what happened that day (one might ask)? - not much, was a sunny day and so on - it's just that all humanity was against me (literally) - my friends were either inaccessible or very hateful for no apparent reasons, my family was acting very cold and I couldn't reach other people... maybe you heard this saying before ("if feels as if humanity has forsaken me") - but it wasn't just a feeling for me - it was a reality... I'm still here... so i made it somehow... i got a 2nd chance (or maybe the 8'th)...

More info - plus the planetary upcoming retrogrades: http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/retrogradeplanets.htm

posted August 17, 2012 08:58 PM            

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I have only 8 placements in retrograde, but it can always be worst - it's just a a little more complicated, that's all.

[b]Jupiter Retrograde

* has doubts about what they deserve and so ...
* finds it easy to settle for crumbs
* feels superior in some way inside
* abundance is felt on the inside
* looks inside for answers to religious questions

Saturn Retrograde

* feels inside that they're never good enough
* indulgent outward behavior may mask inner feelings of inadequacy
* hides fears

Uranus Retrograde

* reconsiders outward expressions of rebelliousness
* feels inside that they are different
* outward conformist behavior masks inner feelings of non-conformity or ...
* goes out of their way to upset others apple carts
* has a difficult time finding their niche in society

Neptune Retrograde

* feels guilty inside and so ....
* tends to blame themselves when things go wrong
* super sensitive inside and so .....
* puts on a tough skinned mask

Pluto Retrograde

* keeps their chin up during crisis because .....
* they want to keep inner upheavals private
* they get what they want by acting like they don't care

When your North and South Nodes are retrograde, you have a strong indication that these lessons have carried forward over several previous lifetimes.

Makes sense... maybe I'm on this path for the 7'th time ... was born on 7th day of June but it's more than that, sometimes i get all kind of signs on the 7'th day - especially in July (being the 7'th month of the year) - which can also be influenced by the planet representative for that day - and this year was the worst so far - cause the 7'th day was on Saturday (Saturn's day) - being 29 with Saturn in a close position to the one i had at birth...

So what happened that day (one might ask)? - not much, was a sunny day and so on - it's just that all humanity was against me (literally) - my friends were either inaccessible or very hateful for no apparent reasons, my family was acting very cold and I couldn't reach other people... maybe you heard this saying before ("if feels as if humanity has forsaken me") - but it wasn't just a feeling for me - it was a reality... I'm still here... so i made it somehow... i got a 2nd chance (or maybe the 8'th)...

More info - plus the planetary upcoming retrogrades: http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/retrogradeplanets.htm

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Wow!!! Thank you so much for this. I like lists lol

I can relate with pluto retro very much. I still push forward and show up regardless. Neptune retro also hits home... Iam very sensitive inside and here i was blaming my cancer moon for alot of it. I agree a little bit with uranus retro.. When i was teenager i felt like i stuck out in society and not sure which group i fit sometimes. I felt different because i felt i was so different from my family members, now i know better and see our similarities much better. But i do like to throw a monkey wreench here and there lol

Iam not sure about jupiter retro tho, mine falls in scorpio and ive read interesting things on it... I like researching behind the scenes alot. Too much for my own good lol having merc in gemini retro is like curiosity killed the cat lol

posted August 17, 2012 09:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
I can definitely relate to what was written about saturn retrograde. All this time I thought it was all just my moon (in 1st) opposition uranus (in 7th) that made me "distant" towards people.

My saturn is in 9th in pisces

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@chiemi,

posted August 18, 2012 08:45 AM            

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... I like researching behind the scenes alot. Too much for my own good lol having merc in gemini retro is like curiosity killed the cat lol

Thank goodness my nodes are direct and my birth day Equals to a seven, so i can relate with seven energy... Its very lucky tho [/B]

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With the upcoming progressions - was really hoping for Mercury to move in Gemini, it seemed like the next step - but it landed in Cancer... which might be for the best - on the long run (North Node related) - but i really needed this right now, would have been very useful (in a practical way - for writing a book...) - but life isn't about that (what we need as individuals).. it's about what it's needed in the grand scheme of things.

You could call number 7 lucky - it's what tradition thought us and believing that - can help manifesting that luck, but it's more than that... it's probably the most popular number - cause it can be found in so many cultures...

7 days the weak
7 Chakras
7 kings of Rome
7 Archangels
7 sages of Greece
7 lucky Gods

...those are just some examples, yet - there are so many others... ^^

posted August 18, 2012 08:46 AM            

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Great minds

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Totally

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posted August 18, 2012 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
With the upcoming progressions - was really hoping for Mercury to move in Gemini, it seemed like the next step - but it landed in Cancer... which might be for the best - on the long run (North Node related) - but i really needed this right now, would have been very useful (in a practical way - for writing a book...) - but life isn't about that (what we need as individuals).. it's about what it's needed in the grand scheme of things.

You could call number 7 lucky - it's what tradition thought us and believing that - can help manifesting that luck, but it's more than that... it's probably the most popular number - cause it can be found in so many cultures...

7 days the weak
7 Chakras
7 kings of Rome
7 Archangels
7 sages of Greece
7 lucky Gods

...those are just some examples, yet - there are so many others... ^^

- well, maybe my natal chart doesn't look that good/favorable - but being born on 7'th day of June and having Jupiter (retrograde) at home in Sagittarius - that lucky aspect - comes as a balance for the unlucky ones... it can manifest as a light in the darkest days, a glimpse of hope - in a hopeless moment... ^^

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7thGuardian,

Quick question i have my nn in cancer how is that related to mercury in cancer? My moon is in cancer 3H my current sun transit is in cancer right now too...

Motherhood/family/planting roots have been plaguing me very heavily. This spring/summer transits have made me feel i lost something i didnt even have... Its kinda crazy. I attributed all these feelings with turning 30.

My solar return promises better thing for the second half of the year but its almost september and from my end its still looking pretty bleak... Its all been a big shake up and iam feeling an invisible preassure. Its all very strange.

Solar return for 2014 looks better but iam not holding my breath

Whats your experience thus far?

Any number that cant be divided into half is stronger. It stays true to its energy as its foundation is unshakable and not dependent on another half.

7's rule but #3 energy is a constant prescence in my life. Its the essence to merge heart, mind and soul.

A la george costanza from seinfeld "seveeeennnn"