posted August 26, 2012 02:08 AM            

Try grupovenus.com, astrology3d.com and armonics.it (use google translate) for synastry

You'll soon learn that composite shows how well two people's energy works and merges together. Synastry shows whether they will have substance or not. Composite shows how strong the container is, and synastry shows what the ingredients inside that container are. It defines what kind of relationship it will be...platonic, romantic, etc and the amount of chemistry between you. While composite shows the strength of your bond. A good composite without good synastry is nice and makes people be fond of each other, but is practically useless, as you won't be able to connect. Good synastry without a good composite is a wonderful feeling but one that'll never be realized, as the two people won't be able to come together. So if you check you should have both a great composite and great synastry with all the people who were important to you at some point in your life.

A quick lesson on composites: You want lots of conjunctions. A composite without a stellium will not be a very close relationship even despite strong attraction or chemistry. There are many possible stelliums, but the best types to have are those where the sun (the identity of the relationship and most important component of the composite) is conjunct jupiter or venus. Bc those two are the "benefic" planets in astrology. The malefics are saturn and uranus. Neptune conjunctions are not malefic, but negative neptune aspects are. Sun conjunct venus in composite is true love but sun in minor aspect or opposition to venus is interpreted as the conjunction as well. The three most powerful composite aspects that bring people together are moon trine or sextile pluto, venus trine pluto, and sun in hard aspect to pluto. If you have nothing else going on in the composite though, the relationship will not last and you'll feel like it was an illusion. Other than sun-jupiter and sun-venus conjunctions, the other configuration that creates a somewhat stable relationship is moon-venus in combination with venus-pluto. From my experience, sun-jupiter and sun-venus conjunctions are much more stable and long lasting though, while sun-venus is the most stable of all, being the only aspect to signify true love, as venus is literally, the planet of love, and the sun is the identity of the relationship. Aspects to the composite sun and moon count as far as 12 degrees because they are luminaries. And when it says +opp. house next to a planet on the list beneath the composite wheel at astro.com that means the planet can also be on the opposite side of the chart (in the opposite house) so consider any possible conjunctions it might also have.

In synastry, again you want to avoid the two malefic planets in negative aspect to any other planets. Double whammies or aspects occurring twice will define the entire relationship singlehandedly---grupovenus is a good way to find those quickly. Wider orbed aspects in synastry do count. Basically any aspect shown in the synastry wheel at astro.com counts. In synastry jupiter aspects are extremely important and the sun, moon or venus aspecting jupiter will create laughter, good will and fun times, esp the conjunction. The sun in positive aspect to the moon, jupiter venus pluto or mars is also very important in creating chemistry/closeness between two people, even negative aspects. Moon in positive aspect to asc makes two people very close, a "soul kinship" especially the conjunction. Moon and venus trine uranus is also very nice as is moon in negative aspect to venus. For a magical emotionally close feeling you want the moon positively aspecting the water planets pluto and neptune. "Venus-pluto" and "mars-asc Double whammies" are the IT aspects for sexual attraction. Venus-mars is hot too but less so, unless it's the conjunction. Sun-mars moon-mars and also "sun-pluto and moon-pluto double whammies" will create sexual attraction but also less so. If you have a lot of the previously mentioned aspects but none of the sexual attraction aspects i mentioned then you'll love each other but the physical chemistry won't be so great. It can also be the reverse. You can have great physical chemistry but not be able to connect that well emotionally.

Too much neptune is not good because the relationship will become platonic instead of sexual. Too much saturn is not good (even trines), because the relationship will feel dry and all work and no play.

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Important Double Whammies, from Grupovenus.com

Venus-Pluto (MOST LIFECHANGING)

Venus Mutually Aspects Pluto

You will experience the heights and depths, love and hate, attraction and repulsion, agony and ecstasy in this relationship. A powerful, compelling fascination and irresistible sexual attraction draws the two of you together like magnets. You love each other with a depth of feeling that is surprising even to yourselves. The powerful charismatic power that you have over each other can be used to manipulate one another, and dominance, control, or jealousy easily become hot issues between you. Whether this is a brief passionate encounter or a lifelong attachment, you will change one another profoundly.

Mercury-Pluto (this description doesn't do it justice)

Mercury Mutually Aspects Pluto

There is a deep, probing quality to your relationship. If your relationship is long-lasting, you are likely to embark on some kind of investigative research in a scientific, historical, or psychological field - unearthing the hidden roots of a situation.

Venus-Jupiter

Venus Mutually Aspects Jupiter

As mentioned below several times, this relationship is blessed with a high degree of good will, harmony, and love for each other. A great deal of merry-making, partying, and socializing makes this relationship an outgoing, enjoyable one. Your appreciation for each other is very strong - this is a relationship that is long-lasting, fulfilling, and rewarding in many ways.

Moon-ASC

Moon Mutually Aspects Ascendant

The bonds of friendship and love that you have for each other run very deep. The strong intuitive rapport and very close emotional tie makes your friendship a permanent one. You share your most personal concerns with each other with relative ease, and these intimate shared experiences build a powerfully strong bond between you over time.

Mars-ASC

Mars Mutually Aspects Ascendant (second-most lifechaning)

The magnetic attraction between you is very powerful, so it is not surprising that you have found each other! You enjoy working together and competing against each other as well. It is likely that you enjoy challenging each other in a sport or game or perhaps even a duel of wits. This is a dynamic partnership that is likely to be a mutually inspiring one as well. You are prone to argue though. If either of you attempts to dominate the other or fails to be sufficiently assertive, then the other will become angry, resentful, and very frustrated, so be wary of the tendency to infuriate each other by being either too aggressive or too passive in this relationship.

Sun-Pluto

Sun Mutually Aspects Pluto

This is a very intense and complex relationship! You may feel both deeply attracted and repelled by one another, and somehow unable to avoid one another. You draw out the inner, hidden side of each other and your interactions are invariably intense, direct, and never superficial. Powerful passions, ego drives, and the hidden darker side of your personalities are revealed through your interaction. If either, or both, of you cannot handle feeling so 'exposed', then the relationship will become very tense as you try to resist the intensity of this relationship. You spur and challenge each other to excel and you may become an unbeatable team, working for a lofty goal or very deep, personal, creative expression. Be wary of a tendency to be competitive or jealous of each other, for the fascination that you have for each other quickly turns to envy if you ever feel like you are competing rather than cooperating with each other.

Sun-Neptune

Sun Mutually Aspects Neptune

A tremendous amount of idealism, fantasy, and imagination permeates every aspect of your relationship, and consequently it can be difficult for the two of you to see each other in a realistic way. You project a lot of fantasies on each other, and this can lead to bitter disappointments and a loss of confidence in each other later. It is possible to enjoy the aura of wonder and dreaminess that you share, while still being objective and realistic in your perception of each other, but it is difficult to do! You spark each other's imagination, idealism, and sympathy, and your life together will have strong elements of fantasy or a spiritual and metaphysical emphasis. You also have a strong compassion and sympathy for each other. However, you must guard against the tendencies to exaggerate, hide things from each other, ignite each other's hopes and dreams to unrealistic and impractical proportions, and become so focused on your shared idealism, imagination and fantasy that you are unable to work effectively on mundane and practical affairs.

Sun-Moon

Sun Mutually Aspects Moon

The two of you are drawn to each other like magnets, and you may find that you keep bumping into each other even if you are not trying to. If you are not married yet, then there is a good chance that you will in the future because the attractions between you are extremely powerful. You understand and appreciate each other to an exceedingly high degree, and you are likely to have felt an instant connection when you first met each other.

Sun-Asc

Sun Mutually Aspects Ascendant

The bond between the two of you is very strong. If you are not married or living together, you may find that you keep bumping into each other wherever you go. You are drawn to each other like magnets.

Moon-Neptune

Moon Mutually Aspects Neptune

There is a very high degree of fascination for each other. You spark each other's imagination, and there is a fantastic, almost mystical, quality to your relationship. You explore the imaginative, psychic realm together; you are inclined to pursue artistic, musical, altruistic, religious, or psychic areas together. There is also a high degree of romance, dreaminess, and fantasy in your relationship. If either of you has an alcohol abuse or drug abuse problem, or serious psychological problems, you are likely to go off the 'deep end' together, so try to avoid engaging in underhanded, deceptive, or psychically unbalanced activities together.

Moon-Pluto

Moon Mutually Aspects Pluto

This relationship is intense! You feel magnetically drawn to each other, but you also arouse feelings of jealousy, possessiveness, and suspiciousness in each other. Powerful emotional needs and desires that you never knew you had, depths of feeling you never experienced before, are brought out by being together. Your relationship could evolve into an obsessive love/hate relationship that is difficult to leave but equally difficult to stay in!

Venus-Mars

Venus Mutually Aspects Mars

Romance! In a word, that summarizes the quality of your relationship. If you find each other physically attractive, then it is almost inevitable that a irresistibly passionate love affair will develop. Even if the physical attraction is not great, you will find yourselves strongly attracted to each other anyway. At times you will feel madly in love with each other, and unable to stay away from each other. Intense desire for each other at times can be so strong that any propensity towards jealousy and possessiveness will be brought out. So although the romantic and sexual intensity is exciting and fulfilling, it may also be stormy at times.

posted August 26, 2012 11:04 AM            

I'm no expert at this stuff.

posted August 26, 2012 11:35 AM            

Awesome synastry attracts strongly, but if you have a bad composite with none of what i said up there, then your feelings will eventually change as you realize the other person isn't right for you and doesnt treat you the best.

If you notice, shadowleo and YTA both have the planets all conjunct in the composite. That gives a soulmate feeling like I said in my post.

posted August 26, 2012 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by ShadowLeo:
We have 5 years old twin boys. I got pregnant really easy (it was for the first time in my life), about 9 months into our marriage. And they didn't get between us at all (if push comes to shove, they're the ones getting ignored sometimes, lol... I know, I sound like a horrible mom... I'm a very responsible mom, but not a very warm/nurturing one, sadly).

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Haha. Nothing comes between the spousal love, not even kids. Not bad at all. I have seen couples where having children took the passion and sex out of the relationship.

posted August 26, 2012 03:37 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Aeline, Venus is conjunct pluto, WITH moon squaring venus, and that's the key. It's always a venus-pluto aspect occurring with moon in hard aspect to venus that fits the pattern. For long term-ness, I would need to see a sun conjunct jupiter, love stellium, etc..like I said in my post, though.

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I am not seeing Venus Conjunct Pluto in Aeline's chart. I see Pluto conjunct Sun and Mercury. Venus seems to be opposite or quincunx...

posted August 26, 2012 04:13 PM            

that is some interesting info...what do think of these two composite charts...what stands out in them to you?

posted August 26, 2012 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
^^^ Really? I would think that would be a characteristic of Venus/Neptune square, not trine. Did that dream guy had planets that aspected your Venus/Neptune trine?

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posted August 26, 2012 05:33 PM            

ie: "love stellium" of Venus, Sun, Mars, Mercury, but in the 12th house. Moon squared Neptune. Vertex exactly conjunct DSC. Very on and off relationship throughout the years. Sometimes we hate each other, sometimes we're friends, sometimes we're lovers, sometimes we're in a relationship. I'd say our synastry comes through still, especially when we're in close quarters. You can't ignore DW Moon/Mars in synastry.

"love stellium" of Sun, Venus, Mars (all conjuncting within 3 degrees of each other) and Mercury in the 10th. Moon squared Saturn/Uranus. He treated me poorly, only lasted a year.

"love stellium" of Jupiter, Sun, Venus and Mercury. This was my longest relationship but I left him because we grew up. Moon conjunct Pluto opposite the "love stellium"

My second longest relationship didn't feature a "love stellium" just Sun conjunct Mercury. But Moon trine Venus exactly.

posted August 26, 2012 07:40 PM            

None of those fit the pattern i described for long-term relationships, though. If pluto squares the entire stellium, like i described in my post, it can go good, it can go bad. Moon square saturn AND uranus is certainly not good. If you had one of the pluto aspects or moon/venus squares i described it wouldve lasted longer i think. And, DW moon/mars is never a good thing. Strong sexual attraction, but many arguments, and very painful, even though it's so passionate. Think of the aries and cancer relationship.