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Dreaming111
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posted August 26, 2012 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can I pick at your brains?

I have a couple questions specifically for you guys, if you don't mind.

1. What defines a love stellium?

2. What do you think of trines sextiles in synastry and composites?

3. Generally would say that people born around the same time would have greater compatibility as they tend to have more conjunctions?

4. Which quadrant would you want most of the planets to fall in a composite?

5. Can synastry ever trump composite aspects?

6. Beside traditional western astrology is there any other that you tend to look at?

7. I read that Steve Jobs and his wife were in a strong but business like relationship. Do you think that they had too few planets in the 5th-8th and more planets in the 10th, 11th? (If you had to guess without looking.)

8. For a long term, genuine, romantic relationship-- tipping into a strong spiritual bond--, which one quadrant would you pick out of the entire composite? lol, Kinda a weird question but just force yourself to pick one.

9. Again like the above bond, which one composite aspect would you prefer, if it was the only one you could pick?

10. In the above relationship, which one synastry aspect would you pick?

11. In the above relationship, which synastry overlay would you pick?

12. Do you believe in reincarnation and moksha?

13. What religious philosophy do you follow?

14. When did you pick up astrology?

15. When do you think you became competent in it?



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posted August 26, 2012 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why always me?

OK.

1. A love stellium works the best when planets are overlaying the angles (1/7-4/10). 3 of more planets there and the relationship is in heaven. I would take into account also 8th house. Karmic like the 4th house but even stronger than 7th.

2. Trines and sextiles are nice but when things are too easy boredom and routine makes its way. Also, contrary to beliefs, hard aspects like square or opposition and hard aspects with Saturn or Pluto, tend to bind.

3. Compatibility is in the eye of the beholder. Life isnt easy, people are not easy, relationships, those who are really worthy face the greater obstacoles and are not easy.

4. 7,8,9 for sure.

5. Sometimes.

6. It depends. I work with western astrology because I am not indian and because I got used to this type. Both are accurate anyway.

7. Either way, they loved each other, they were friends, husband and wife, partners in crime. Steve Jobs said he fell in love with his wife instantly so I smell planets on the 1/7 axis.

8. 7,8,9.

9. Planets in 1, 5 4,7, 8. I want attraction, a family, children, marriage and deep feelings and great sex. Don't want karma aka 12th house. Don't work with aspects

10. I don't like aspects in synastry. They feel pretty generalistic. Overlays are better.

11. Planets in 4th or 8th house. Deep and psychic connections.

12. Reincarnation definitely. What is moksha?

13. None. Mine.

14. At the age of 19. I have become an astrologer in 2009.

15. When I managed to guess accurately the birth time of my love.

I hope the answers are OK. Pretty tired at the moment.

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posted August 26, 2012 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Why always me?

Hey, thanks for the input. I asked the both of you because I obviously value what you have to say.

You know, you didn't have to answer if you genuinely didn't want to, and you thought it was a waste of your time...

I guess to runaroundscreaming, if you don't want to reply definitely no pressure here. Anyway...

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posted August 26, 2012 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol of course you can ask us questions . I'd be more than happy to answer.

I dont think Rosalind meant it in a bad way though...yeah...I get why you would think that.

I'll be back soon to answer them. BRB! lol

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posted August 26, 2012 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. What defines a love stellium?
love stellium (sun conjunct mercury conjunct venus) even 12 degrees apart is ok, also sun opposite mercury, sun opposite venus, sun semisextile/semisquare venus is the same as conjunction. So, for example, sun semisextile venus, and conjunct mercury would still be considered a love stellium. (astro.com shows these aspects in the little aspect grid underneath the image of the composite wheel)

2. What do you think of trines sextiles in synastry and composites? Trines in composite are sweet, but some of them are barely noticeable. I would say (in composite) the most noticeable are trines and sextiles from moon or venus to the outer planets (pluto, saturn, uranus, neptune). Sun trine pluto and jupiter is barely noticeable, for example. Jupiter trines are barely noticable in general, only the hard aspects seem to be (in composite only i mean). Sun in trine to uranus, neptune or saturn is more noticeable definitely. So it depends. In synastry, I dont buy all that squares are exciting stuff. Not at all. They cause a lot of drama and awkwardness. Some squares are actually good in synastry, sun square pluto, moon square venus, moon square jupiter. But it is not to say that they dont still have minor setbacks... A few squares is okay, and it is preferable if it is those three aspects specifically..i would give a maximum of 3. But i have indeed experienced a synastry that was all trines, and important aspects at that, and it was pure heaven.

3. Generally would say that people born around the same time would have greater compatibility as they tend to have more conjunctions?
No. You can have conjunctions with anyone born at any year.

4. Which quadrant would you want most of the planets to fall in a composite? The 7th house.

5. Can synastry ever trump composite aspects?
Absolutely. It happens all the time. But, it wont last. Composite is most important always...for feeling of stability and trust in the relationship.

6. Beside traditional western astrology is there any other that you tend to look at? Chinese astrology. I love it. And very much like western, I have also found that people even resemble their chinese sign animals.

7. I read that Steve Jobs and his wife were in a strong but business like relationship. Do you think that they had too few planets in the 5th-8th and more planets in the 10th, 11th? (If you had to guess without looking.) No, i looked at their composite and thought it was funny that the media portrayed them as being so close bc that is not what i saw. I dont remember what it was i saw aspect-wise, but i did look at it recently. I cant remember though. I think it was composite sun and moon conjunct saturn. Saturn-heavy relationships are bad bad.

8. For a long term, genuine, romantic relationship-- tipping into a strong spiritual bond--, which one quadrant would you pick out of the entire composite? lol, Kinda a weird question but just force yourself to pick one.
Again, 7th. 8th and the water houses, including even the 1st house and 10th houses are too obsessive in my opinion. not healthy. 7th leads to a complementarity that feels like you dont even have to work at the relationship and like you work better with the other person than alone.

9. Again like the above bond, which one composite aspect would you prefer, if it was the only one you could pick? Venus trine pluto.

10. In the above relationship, which one synastry aspect would you pick? Double whammy venus-pluto. Hmmmm..oh but just one aspect? Hehe sun conjunct moon or maybe just moon conjunct ascendant (soul kinship)

11. In the above relationship, which synastry overlay would you pick?
important synastry aspects i look for are sun-moon aspects, whether that be a square or whatever it is. but just the fact that it is there. Sun trine or conjunct jupiter. Sun-pluto. venus or sun trining or sextiling saturn. Moon trine uranus. Moon square or hard aspect to venus (not conjunction though), venus conjunct mars, venus trine mars or uranus, moon trine or sextile any of the outer planets. Sun aspecting (not the square, but opp is ok) venus or mars. I also look for double whammy aspects.

12. Do you believe in reincarnation and moksha? no idea what moksha is but i do believe in reincarnation thanks to linda goodman's description of how the soul becomes the next sign in its next life.

13. What religious philosophy do you follow? astrology, taoism. lol

14. When did you pick up astrology? when i looked up based on sun sign astrology how compatible aries and cancer were. bc i had a crush on an aries. i always draw aries and libra people but especially aries. it described the aries so well, the way we got along to a T, and then when i saw how it described me i was floored. knew me too well for that to be normal. I was 13, and in middle school. From then on i was obsessed. I looked at so many websites that i compiled a long archive in astrologyweekly.com's forums. My username is FishnChips there and it's a stickied thread under 'Recommendations.'

15. When do you think you became competent in it?
After consulting the astrologer at the wisdom forum at astrologyhoroscopes.com for lots and lots of relationship readings based just on the composite chart (theyre free), lol he was very annoyed with me and banned me eventually haha. but i didnt care. I learned a lot from his readings. and that is also where i picked up the love stellium from. He never called it that but he kept saying it indicated "possibly the most loving relationship of your life" and it showed up in all the readings i asked him for except for one....i couldnt ignore that.

16. Q: I think we could have a spreadsheet for all possible aspects, placements, etc, with different weights for each one of them - the formula would just add everything up and there would be, the couple's potential in numbers :-) (and automatically :-)

Maybe there is a web site that does that...

A: haha. maybe. for now i like my little checklist of composite aspects. i think looking at what is in synastry is kind of misleading really, since the composite is more important. The only aspect in synastry i would consider really binding and important is sun conjunct moon, and in much lower strength sun conjunct, trine , or opp venus or jupiter. But always even with those aspects, in a close relationship there will be a strong composite that follows a clear pattern of good compatibility.

EXTRAS:

what I noticed is that minor aspects in the composite as well as the natal chart are also important, even though slightly less felt than if it were a nonminor aspect. But still!

Somehow, I am still not sure about minor aspects in synastry. They don't seem very strong for me and my relationships unless they are 1 degree or less. But with more experience, hopefully I will learn more about them.

I think the "Ideal Compatibility" link in my signature explains the minor aspects in composite that I feel are most important pretty well. I noticed in composites, that when you look up minor aspects between planets that cannot ever be anything but conjunct or opposite each other in composite, the computerized astro reports online give it the same interpretation as if it were a conjunction. I have found this to be really valid, although the aspect does seem to be felt slightly less. Such planets in the composite would be Sun, venus, and mercury, basically. Neither of those can ever be anything but conjunct or opposite each other. ie You can't have sun square venus in composite or sun square mercury. Also, I noticed that oppositions between those three planets are also described the same way as the conjunction, probably because the planet could easily have been on the other side of the chart, since it's a midpoint, and being conjunct it instead. Also, for luminaries aka the sun and moon, in the composite.....it seems that orbs can be very wide for conjunctions and still be felt. I have noticed that very wide conjunctions between sun and other planets especially can still be felt even though astro.com does not count them.

I count whatever the composite at astro.com shows in the aspect grid shown below the chart.

As far as the rest of the minor aspects you may be curious about. It's pretty simple, really. The negative minor aspects get the same interpretation as softer squares, the positive ones count like soft sextiles. That's pretty much it. Any pluto aspects in composite are of course going to be powerful. Moon in negative aspect to venus seems to be very powerful as well, as well as the obvious minor aspects that cause the love stellium as described in the link in my signature titled "Ideal Compatibility." When things are unclear as to why two people were drawn to each other because major aspects indicating such strong attraction aren't present, the minor aspects in composite seem to reveal the answers. Same goes for, indications of unrequited love, mistreatment, power struggles. ETC

As often they do go unnoticed, minor aspects just shouldn't be ignored.

If you're interested in seeing the minor aspects in your natal chart I recommend doing a free sample natal reading from thefutureminders.com and putting your birth info in both of the profiles. It's very insightful.


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posted August 27, 2012 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much!! All you information was very insightful. Again I appreciate you taking the time to reply.

Also, I'm a bit embarrassed but I named this topic : ROUNDaroundscreaming & Rosalind.

haha Sorry about that.

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posted August 27, 2012 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course not. I meant that as a joke. You know me.

Why always me isnt an expression of rudeness. I feel flattered. Just that :P

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posted August 27, 2012 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Of course not. I meant that as a joke. You know me.

Why always me isnt an expression of rudeness. I feel flattered. Just that :P


Oh! doh.

I was thinking you were annoyed or something. It's kinda hard to tell with just typing. :P

Thanks for your input.

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posted August 27, 2012 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Oh! doh.

I was thinking you were annoyed or something. It's kinda hard to tell with just typing. :P

Thanks for your input.


Nope. Not at all.

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posted May 22, 2014 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 22, 2014 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I miss Rosalind.

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posted May 22, 2014 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have never fallen in love with anyone that I have a love stellium with......

This idea that the love stellium is the thing I don't agree with I am sorry....that is a personal preference...those relationships are not physical enough for me; I had that with my best friend. Its not a coincidence that I have never felt attracted in my life to someone that I have a love stellium with......this might be heaven for some people but is NOT generalizable, it depends on what someone wants from a relationship, the person's personality and ideals. I like neptune in composite more and jupiter, mars and pluto....I like mars/venus aspects and sun/moon aspects. The love stellium is over rated.

I have a stellium involving sun/mercury/mars/jupiter/saturn/pluto (6 planets) in libra and our composite venus conjunct exact my natal mars and by one orb my natal venus.

I have this stellium with my ex and my husband.

Runaroundscreaming rejects saturn but from what i have read she has had A LOT of relationships and crushes but not a relationship that lasts many years and she rejects saturn in relationships yet many people have relationship karma they need to work out and yet saturn is a planet that is about commitment and sticking it out through the hard times, learning and growing together and then you see the rewards once you work out the challenges.

Its irresponsible and superficial to belittle the importance of Saturn in long term relationships specially when there are so many people that need to work out relationship karma and saturn is about taking responsibility and not taking the easy way out and confronting the karma and working through it.

Its a shallow way to look at love and relationships...it cant just be roses and butterflies 24/7..even if you have all "Nice aspects" the relationship will be affected by transits as transits form hard aspects with our natal and relationship charts.

Everyone here on this earth has karma.

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posted May 22, 2014 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
This idea that the love stellium is the thing I don't agree with I am sorry....that is a personal preference...those relationships are not physical enough for me;


Only the novice in astrology believe in the "love stellium", because it sounds glamorous.
A good astrologer would not take it seriously in the slightest, I guarantee you that. Sun, Venus and Mercury are always travelling close to each other so having them conjuncted in the composite happens more often that not. It's indeed very nice & sweet to have a Venus/Sun conjunction in the Composite, and I do have it in my Composite as well, but it's not what it is presented to be here.
I usually won't even bother discussing the so called love stellium rubbish idea, but I just feel talkative today, so there it is.

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posted May 22, 2014 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure it's such a good idea to emphasize the so-called "love stellium", since Sun/Venus/Mercury are never too faaway from each other and a midpoint between two charts would bring them even closer, thus making this aspect extremely common.

Runaroundscreaming, I would be grateful if you could explain why you favor those three squares in synastry over others: Sun square Pluto, Moon square Venus, Moon square Jupiter. Thanks a lot!

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posted May 22, 2014 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG, Orange, I just read your post...it's the same thing I said, I shouldn't have even bothered hahahahahahahahaha!

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
OMG, Orange, I just the read your post...it's the same thing I said, I shouldn't have even bothered hahahahahahahahaha!

Haaa
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posted May 08, 2016 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump* for interpersonal astrology?

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