posted August 30, 2012 05:00 AM            

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I don't believe it. Like - me? How could they possibly like me? That's being said, it does not come from my conscious mind, because i understand with my mind - why shouldn't they like me? I'm good looking, interesting, smart, etc. But when it comes to accept that they simply like me for what i am, i can't. I look for my flaws then, like, how can they like me, i've put a few pounds on, how can they like me, it can't be true. Because deep down there i have this strive for perfectness, in my subconscious mind, i have to be perfect for someone to like me, if i'm not, i conclude that i don't deserve it. Stupid, i know. But how could i overcome it, that's the question i have to deal with now.

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You described the Venus square Saturn influence perfectly... at least - personally, i strongly relate with above description - something that haunted me for a long time - "cause of this aspect alone" - i've been single - to such extent, that friends and relatives end-up asking me directly if i'm Gay or something like that... cause for them was inexplicable - as you put it: "good looking (since i'm not Brad Pitt - i don't know, hard to say - maybe they were just trying to be nice), interesting (I'm not like that "all the time" and maybe i have to be for someone to like me), smart (I've known smarter - and since our intelligence is also measured in wealth - i don't seem to fit this description - "a smart person should be rich - right?" - then again, maybe they were just trying to be nice), etc."

- when a stranger makes me a compliment - that might be true - I'm happy about it... but when somebody that knows me does the same - i find it hard to believe - "they're just trying to be nice" pop's up in my mind at that point... and this is known as "insecurity" - illogical, yet sometimes i can't help not feeling that.

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What did it for me? I learned to accept myself - still struggling with those feelings but now i'm aware that i can have a relationship... and another thing that helped me with that was "Love" - cause when you love someone and "that person gives you the impression (even if it doesn't feel the same at that point) - that - there's a chance between U2 (you two), that can be enough to accept yourself and try to be the best you can be for that person... cause "love is illogical" as in "love doesn't deal with logic (maybe that's why they call it blind)" - and you can fell in love with someone who doesn't fit your expectation - yet, that person might have something that you really find appealing, something that can make you feel like there's a future between you two (maybe the other person is talented at something "that completes you" or maybe something else...) - whatever that is - you'll realize that person has flaws as well, but you can deal with those and that ones you have don't seem such a big problem at that point "you'll finally realize that it's normal" and you don't have to be "God and fall in love with a Goddess (or the other way around)"

...but careful Aeline - cause you have a "Venus square Neptune":

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In square aspect to Neptune, your Venusian expression takes on an other-wordly quality. Your yearning may be for that perfect lover whose spirituality, passion, purity of spirit and drive all stem from the highest possible level. Loving in such a manner would seem to remove you from the bondage of ordinary life and transport you into true bliss. Although this seems possible in fairy tales or movies, it's really difficult to find those elements in another human being. You may also operate under the illusion that you must first sacrifice yourself before you are worthy of love. It's all too easy to project unrealistic feelings onto your lover, and it is just as tempting to try to alter yourself to please a man so that he will love you. Whether those alterations are in your behavior, your appearance or your attitudes, if you submerge your real self beneath the illusions of what you feel will make you more lovable, you're selling out. If you want to experience the ecstasy you dream about, you'll surrender to a love which honors your real needs and learn to avoid situations where you become addicted, co-dependent, victimized or abused. Forgiving the shortcomings of the man you love is one thing; allowing him to deceive or victimize you is another! Know when and how to give help, but be careful of emotional rescue ventures!

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posted August 30, 2012 05:19 AM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
You described the Venus square Saturn influence perfectly... at least - personally, i strongly relate with above description - something that haunted me for a long time - "cause of this aspect alone" - i've been single - to such extent, that friends and relatives end-up asking me directly if i'm Gay or something like that... cause for them was inexplicable - as you put it: "good looking (since i'm not Brad Pitt - i don't know, hard to say - maybe they were just trying to be nice), interesting (I'm not like that "all the time" and maybe i have to be for someone to like me), smart (I've known smarter - and since our intelligence is also measured in wealth - i don't seem to fit this description - "a smart person should be rich - right?" - then again, maybe they were just trying to be nice), etc."

- when a stranger makes me a compliment - that might be true - I'm happy about it... but when somebody that knows me does the same - i find it hard to believe - "they're just trying to be nice" pop's up in my mind at that point... and this is known as "insecurity" - illogical, yet sometimes i can't help not feeling that.

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What did it for me? I learned to accept myself - still struggling with those feelings but now i'm aware that i can have a relationship... and another thing that helped me with that was "Love" - cause when you love someone and "that person gives you the impression (even if it doesn't feel the same at that point) - that - there's a chance between U2 (you two), that can be enough to accept yourself and try to be the best you can be for that person... cause "love is illogical" as in "love doesn't deal with logic (maybe that's why they call it blind)" - and you can fell in love with someone who doesn't fit your expectation - yet, that person might have something that you really find appealing, something that can make you feel like there's a future between you two (maybe the other person is talented at something "that completes you" or maybe something else...) - whatever that is - you'll realize that person has flaws as well, but you can deal with those and that ones you have don't seem such a big problem at that point "you'll finally realize that it's normal" and you don't have to be "God and fall in love with a Goddess (or the other way around)"

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Very interesting. "confessions of a late bloomer"

Be careful, seriously. Perhaps what you need is another late bloomer, lol. You must realise cool charismatic people were meant for each other, and someone has to get laid with late bloomers as well. I'm pretty sure late blooming women will be delighted to find someone. Like their last chance to have sex. Brilliant opportunity! No effort required !

posted August 30, 2012 05:54 AM            

Mars in Leo? Very good. I'd say it's not so much groups. It's rather a social life. Looking good. Do you enjoy dancing? Perhaps dancing classes.

posted August 30, 2012 06:32 AM            

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...you are correct about the Late Bloomer part in terms of career and relationship/love/commitment, but what does getting laid have to do with that? - maybe from a Capricorn perspective - you can get laid only with someone you love, but from a Gemini perspective - "just cause you test-drive a car - doesn't mean you to buy it..." sex is one thing - love is another... yet, with Cancer ASC - i had to make sure that i didn't send the wrong signals... and with that i said enough... don't wanna brag about it.

Another thing - there's Puppy love and there's true love (philia + eros + agape)... separately - Puppy Love, Eros or philia are not that hard to find (agape is an extension to true love)... puppy love is the easiest (first love as teenagers or in childhood) - wile philia derives from friendship and eros from physical attraction... philia works best out of this 3 - but i avoided this type of relationship - out of fear of hurting others or even myself... cause - with "the right person" - philia can lead to Eros and from that there's just one more step to true love..."and that's something i wasn't prepared for (not good enough)"...

If there's more you'd like to know - just ask... ^^

posted August 30, 2012 07:02 AM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
...and there's that Capricorn you try to hide... ^^ - i did warn you about that, cause you end-up suppressing the good qualities of a Capricorn - and showing only its teeth.

...you are correct about the Late Bloomer part in terms of career and relationship/love/commitment, but what does getting laid have to do with that? - maybe from a Capricorn perspective - you can get laid only with someone you love, but from a Gemini perspective - "just cause you test-drive a car - doesn't mean you to buy it..." sex is one thing - love is another... yet, with Cancer ASC - i had to make sure that i didn't send the wrong signals... and with that i said enough... don't wanna brag about it.

Another thing - there's Puppy love and there's true love (philia + eros + agape)... separately - Puppy Love, Eros or philia are not that hard to find (agape is an extension to true love)... puppy love is the easiest (first love as teenagers or in childhood) - wile philia derives from friendship and eros from physical attraction... philia works best out of this 3 - but i avoided this type of relationship - out of fear of hurting others or even myself... cause - with "the right person" - philia can lead to Eros and from that there's just one more step to true love..."and that's something i wasn't prepared for (not good enough)"...

If there's more you'd like to know - just ask... ^^

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okay, i'm stocking up on popcorn and waiting what you have to say about this capricorn showing its teeth. because it is not self-evident to anyone but you, apparently. and OBVS not true.

posted August 30, 2012 07:14 PM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
okay, i'm stocking up on popcorn and waiting what you have to say about this capricorn showing its teeth. because it is not self-evident to anyone but you, apparently. and OBVS not true.

there's also divine love you know. but that's for the privileged.

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Was half-truth/half-sarcasm - i already told you, i don't wanna help you hurt-yourself... cause "you don't know what you're doing"... and believe it or not - in a way i understand you cause we have a common aspect which you ignore - taking it as minor, yet it obviously - affects you:

"Venus semisqure Sun"

This aspect - truly reflects how you feel about your Sun for being "Capricorn" and for being disliked among Zodiac Signs - compared to Sagittarius and Gemini which are quite popular from this point of view...cause with this aspect - "being liked" is very important to you, yet if you don't learn to love yourself - you attract misery from your decision to hate your Sun sign and this will go-on for as long as you keep doing that... there's normal misery (we all have to deal with that) and there's self-inflicted misery (the one we cause for ourselves)... and i do believe you relate with this misery sometimes - and maybe you blame it on Capricorn, yet truth be told - you can't truly love yourself if you deny your Sun Sign - and i honestly doubt that there is one (at least 1) astrologer on this forum that would recommend you to do that... from those that take astrology serious (ofc)...

posted August 30, 2012 07:23 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Was half-truth/half-sarcasm - i already told you, i don't wanna help you hurt-yourself... cause "you don't know what you're doing"... and believe it or not - in a way i understand you cause we have a common aspect which you ignore - taking it as minor, yet it obviously - affects you:

"Venus semisqure Sun"

This aspect - truly reflects how you feel about your Sun for being "Capricorn" and for being disliked among Zodiac Signs - compared to Sagittarius and Gemini which are quite popular from this point of view...cause with this aspect - "being liked" is very important to you, yet if you don't learn to love yourself - you attract misery from your decision to hate your Sun sign and this will go-on for as long as you keep doing that... there's normal misery (we all have to deal with that) and there's self-inflicted misery (the one we cause for ourselves)... and i do believe you relate with this misery sometimes - and maybe you blame it on Capricorn, yet truth be told - you can't truly love yourself if you deny your Sun Sign - and i honestly doubt that there is one (at least 1) astrologer on this forum that would recommend you to do that... from those that take astrology serious (ofc)...

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who on earth told you i don't love myself?

do not despair, if you can't impress me you still can impress someone simpler who will look up to you. you will find your audience to preach to one day.

so what do you propose? seriously? i'm dying of curiosity!

1) admit i am an idiot with no social skills
2) admit i am not meant for charismatic cool guys
3) date late bloomers and other rejects and misfits and leftovers no one else wants
4) dress in grey and brown and look 50 years older
5) be friends with other social rubbish everyone keeps at an arm's length
6) never go out, dancing and looking good is for Leos and Libras
7) worship saturn? well, yeah, i am so rubbish i could do no better
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this strikes me as some conspiracy whereby boring guys try to get cool girls to join their boring club where no charismatic popular guys would fancy looking, to have less competition, so to say.

i am too good to be a cap and live the cap way. would be a waste of my body and my youth and my coolness.

and i am wondering why you are so interested in my chart anyway. i can't even remember my own, let alone think of other people's.

PS please reconcile yourself with the fact that you cannot teach me anything and communicate me any eye-openers i would be grateful for. and if you knew anything about astrology you would notice from my chart i hate being talked down to, preached to, lectured to etc. etc., this approach is just counter-productive. but because you apparently don't know astrology that well i'll do you a favour and point it out. see how nice i am? despite your horrible overtones, please mind.

posted August 31, 2012 04:19 AM            

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Why exactly do you think that i'd have to date nerds? What's the reason behind that? It's not like i'm forever alone or something. I do have friends, i do get invited to the parties, i have a good social and political life and i'm not so shy either, i can get to the pub, step on the stage and sing caraoce even without alcohol (yeah, i'm Libra/Leo mostly) And i do date - cool guys, btw, because i can't accept less. It's my strive for perfection, i guess.

My problem isn't that people don't see me, no. I do not feel invisible, not at all. It's just i don't let those people close to me. I don't let them in my heart. There are these guys i date, but there's no that special bond from my side. Basically - i don't fall in love. Maybe that's because in my heart and in my mind is one special guy, for centuries. And i suppose that this lifetime is for learning how to let go of him. So hard actually.

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Not sure this is addressed to me, as I never said anything like it. My last reply was to 7guardian because apparently he wants me to date nerds.

posted August 31, 2012 04:21 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
Not sure this is addressed to me, as I never said anything like it. My last reply was to 7guardian because apparently he wants me to date nerds.

I don't think anybody should date nerds, they are not cut out for it

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posted August 31, 2012 06:24 AM            

You're on a astrology forum - the Sun sign "is the most basic knowledge in astrology" - so basic that even those that don't know/care about astrology - might be aware of their Sun Sign... and i already told you in the other topic what the Sun Signs stands for: "how we are at hearth, our basic drives..." - yet - you try so hard to convince yourself and others that you can "deny it" - that you can deny all that it stands for in this world... as you put it:

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i have seen cap girls. i don't want to be like them. zero femininity, rubbish social skills, social awkwardness, heavy on the uptake. please do not tell me i am supposed to want to be like this and be proud of this.

capricorns are the most horrible people in the world. toil toil toil. i have been watching the world. lovely, light, charismatic people with social skills get all the good things in life. all of this anti-capricorn. the cap way does not lead anywhere.

charming, lovely, desirable partners, lots of friends, graceful movements, tons of useful contacts.... - this cannot be obtained by capricornian means. horrible aloof rubbish only gets to go to bed with horrible aloof rubbish. is this what i am supposed to admit about myself? that i can only go to bed with horrible aloof rubbish everyone keeps at an arm's length? i don't want to. should i?

you have nothing to object to this. anyone will choose an easy going, charming individual over a cap. this is why i chose to be the former. please believe me i have enough placements to be that and not my sun sign.

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Originally posted by andstuff:
why are you rubbing it in that i am a capricorn at heart? i told you i am not, why are you insisting? this is not nice/polite. i realised i do not want nor need it, i squeezed it out of myself and i will keep squeezing out whatever remains. it was my choice to chuck it away. alright?

cap men are not cool either. i once said this, and i will repeat again. the best ones are: sag and gem. the best qualities. the best planets.

i don't need your help, lol, i have sun conj jupiter

purely to satisfy your curiosity though here it is http://imageshack.us/f/440/astro2gw01anonymous3226.gif/

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...a harsh description - which might have some truth in it but far from reality and you did even worst in this topic:

1) admit i am an idiot with no social skills
2) admit i am not meant for charismatic cool guys
3) date late bloomers and other rejects and misfits and leftovers no one else wants
4) dress in grey and brown and look 50 years older
5) be friends with other social rubbish everyone keeps at an arm's length
6) never go out, dancing and looking good is for Leos and Libras
7) worship saturn? well, yeah, i am so rubbish i could do no better
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You can't love yourself if you can't accept your Sun Sign... and no mater how hard you try - "you can't delete your Sun Sign (nobody can)"... all you can do is ignore it and that's what you're doing... but just cause you ignore it - doesn't mean that others can do the same - "cause it shows..."

So, here's a more realistic description of a Capricorn: http://zodiac-signs-astrology.com/zodiac-signs/capricorn.htm - cause your descriptions are simply... awful and that's not fair for other Capricorns.

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Beyond that, i won't bother with your trolling (meant to be offensive in such a blunt way) - but I'd like to make this ("stalking me in every single thread") clear:

- i quoted you in "1 tread" (the one from where i added above quotes) - wile in this topic "you're the one who engaged me" - so i'd advise you - to revise your posts and you might see a lot of Capricorn in there - and not the good side of a Capricorn (despite your believes - there are good sides as well).

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Originally posted by andstuff:
Not sure this is addressed to me, as I never said anything like it. My last reply was to 7guardian because apparently he wants me to date nerds.

I don't think anybody should date nerds, they are not cut out for it

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How on earth - did you conclude that? - no offense, but are you in "high-school"?

...cause the next quote which was addressed to you by another user - makes so much sense right now:

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andstuff,if you don't mind me asking,how old are you?

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posted August 31, 2012 06:37 AM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
You did, you made it public.

You're on a astrology forum - the Sun sign "is the most basic knowledge in astrology" - so basic that even those that don't know/care about astrology - might be aware of their Sun Sign... and i already told you in the other topic what the Sun Signs stands for: "how we are at hearth, our basic drives..." - yet - you try so hard to convince yourself and others that you can "deny it" - that you can deny all that it stands for in this world... as you put it:

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okay, so you didn't get the bit about lecturing being counter-productive with me. i will be even nicer and explain. i have Uranus in Sagittarius. Please google.

this is one massive load of cr_ap:

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Capricorn woman is very classy, upscale woman. You have to woo her and court her like a lady. Shower her with nice gifts (but not too expensive, she is a very conservative spender and expects you to be also). She will dominate and control the relationship but in her intriguing subtle way, let her take the lead, she won't steer you wrong! She will lead the relationship in the right direction because she is smart and practical. She will offer you a long lasting, real, loyal relationship with all the right ingredients for happiness.

Talk about serious topics, things that matter and avoid unconventionality, they are very conventional people and do not like shock-topics. They like to be connected to on an intellectual level. They like gifts, not gaudy and expensive but practical and useful. Keep it high class, they do not like second-rate gifts, or dates for that matter. Plan an upscale date to a art gallery, theater or fancy restaurant. Never be late. Capricorns are very punctual and live by a schedule and they do not like to be kept waiting, it shows irresponsibility. Be patient with Capricorn, underneath that aloof, indifferent outside lies a physical, passionate loyal person that will come out when the time is right, once you have proven yourself.

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i don't need to read these scholarly truths. they are stereotypical and horrible if anything

posted August 31, 2012 08:31 AM            

For whom is appearance most important from this 3:Sagittarius, Gemini, Capricorn?

- no doubt about it: Capricorn

Who has a problem with nerds from this 3: 3:Sagittarius, Gemini, Capricorn?

Most Gemini like nerdy People and Sagittarius doesn't have a problem with that either - on the other hand Capricorns - they like to climb the ladder of success and "their partner should reflect that (cool, good looking)"...

...also, you said once that "cap man aren't cool either" - here, Capricorn Man celebrity list: http://www.librarising.com/astrology/sunsigns/sunincapricornmale.html

- now look at their woman selection...

...furthermore - words like "counter-productive" - Geminis are well-known for starting something and have a hard time finishing it... wile Sagittarius are in for the trill - words like "counter-productive" it's definitely something a Capricorn would use.... Sagittarius or a Gemini may be "cool" in some situations but we don't relate with this world either - that's a "shallow word" when used to describe people and their behavior...

Both Geminis and Sagittarius have no problem "with the world and the way it is" - we take both the good and the bad and we accept it as part of this world - Sagittarius is well-known for handling the bad side of the world - better than any sign of the zodiac... and by handling it, i mean "DEALING WITH IT" nor run from it are try to avoid things that don't appeal to the "classy nature" - something a Capricorn is some found of... if i think of a world of Sagittarius and Gemini - i think about old Indian tribes that travel from place to place, smoke pot around the fire a philosophy about the world (kinda like a hippie world) - yet Virgos and Capricorns aspire to more than that...

A world without Capricorn/Saturn - would be a hippie world rules by "sloths" - and most people wouldn't want to live in such world...

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If you wanna be less bitchy - more social "that's good" but to that - you need to acknowledge your bitchy Capricorn side and "control it" instead of "ignoring it"... cause you can't get read of it... you don't realize that you act like that anyway..

posted August 31, 2012 09:42 AM            

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You're missing the point - "you're already acting like a Capricorn" - since it's not a mater of choice when it comes to your Sun sign (can't be done)... yet, you can chose to ignore it (like you do) but by doing so "you can't accept yourself" - cause you refuse to acknowledge a part of you - even tho, it "shows more than you'd like cause of that" - and you don't even realize it... for example:

For whom is appearance most important from this 3:Sagittarius, Gemini, Capricorn?

- no doubt about it: Capricorn

Who has a problem with nerds from this 3: 3:Sagittarius, Gemini, Capricorn?

Most Gemini like nerdy People and Sagittarius doesn't have a problem with that either - on the other hand Capricorns - they like to climb the ladder of success and "their partner should reflect that (cool, good looking)"...

...also, you said once that "cap man aren't cool either" - here, Capricorn Man celebrity list: http://www.librarising.com/astrology/sunsigns/sunincapricornmale.html

- now look at their woman selection...

...furthermore - words like "counter-productive" - Geminis are well-known for starting something and have a hard time finishing it... wile Sagittarius are in for the trill - words like "counter-productive" it's definitely something a Capricorn would use.... Sagittarius or a Gemini may be "cool" in some situations but we don't relate with this world either - that's a "shallow word" when used to describe people and their behavior...

Both Geminis and Sagittarius have no problem "with the world and the way it is" - we take both the good and the bad and we accept it as part of this world - Sagittarius is well-known for handling the bad side of the world - better than any sign of the zodiac... and by handling it, i mean "DEALING WITH IT" nor run from it are try to avoid things that don't appeal to the "classy nature" - something a Capricorn is some found of... if i think of a world of Sagittarius and Gemini - i think about old Indian tribes that travel from place to place, smoke pot around the fire a philosophy about the world (kinda like a hippie world) - yet Virgos and Capricorns aspire to more than that...

A world without Capricorn/Saturn - would be a hippie world rules by "sloths" - and most people wouldn't want to live in such world...

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If you wanna be less bitchy - more social "that's good" but to that - you need to acknowledge your bitchy Capricorn side and "control it" instead of "ignoring it"... cause you can't get read of it... you don't realize that you act like that anyway..

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So who from that horrible list am I supposed to dig? My idea of hot is I don't know... Julian from the strokes... Or Thurston Moore 25 years ago. Both essentially the opposite of Capricorn. As for females they all look prudish, conservative and sexually messed up, repressed and worse. I have no intention of being like that. Or looking like that either. Is this what I have to acknowledge? That I am a shy sexually repressed loser? I chose not to be one, what's wrong with that? Why should I want to be one? Nobody wants that. I cannot possibly be able to enjoy it.

I told you to stop lecturing me - did you stop? No you didn't. Anyone would get bitchy with someone as big headed as you. You think you know what I need - why so convinced? I said im done with Saturn, there's no good in embracing it. Saturn entails getting laid with old men for example - am I as rubbish as that? No I'm not.

If you must know I have never been in love with anyone because of their looks. In fact I tend to ignore it. But that takes being in love.

posted August 31, 2012 01:54 PM            

Ironically - the last person that behaved like that was also a Capricorn (she had no problem with her identity - but she displayed a similar negative and hateful attitude about others), yet - I'll take it as a coincidence out of respect for other Capricorns - which don't behave in a similar way... because i really dislike stereotypes where all persons with a specific Sun Sign - are suppose to be the same, yes - we have some common traits... but cause of other aspects - no person is alike...

Well, a Capricorn and a Gemini are to different and i'm sorry i couldn't be of any help to you, sorry for being - "counter-productive (you might have better luck with Virgos)" - that being said, as long as you ignore me... i can do the same... i'll try to be more careful around Capricorns, as said above - you're not all alike...

posted August 31, 2012 03:43 PM            

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Was trying to be helpful - but i lost my patience (with the help of House 12 - i did indulge more than others could/would) with your negative, insulting and hateful attitude... you're on a "public forum" - that being said, it's one thing to act like that about yourself - and another, to project that image on all girls from Capricorn... a insulting, hateful and degrading image that has very little truth in it... and that's the 2'nd reason why i tried to help you understand that - what you're doing is wrong - "not just for you, but for others as well."

Ironically - the last person that behaved like that was also a Capricorn (she had no problem with her identity - but she displayed a similar negative and hateful attitude about others), yet - I'll take it as a coincidence out of respect for other Capricorns - which don't behave in a similar way... because i really dislike stereotypes where all persons with a specific Sun Sign - are suppose to be the same, yes - we have some common traits... but cause of other aspects - no person is alike...

Well, a Capricorn and a Gemini are to different and i'm sorry i couldn't be of any help to you, sorry for being - "counter-productive (you might have better luck with Virgos)" - that being said, as long as you ignore me... i can do the same... i'll try to be more careful around Capricorns, as said above - you're not all alike...

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once again you failed to realise that your patronising tone did it, not my nature. you still consider yourself entitled to patronise me - on what grounds? we have just found out you lack any competence in astrology

1) you said an earth sign was a masculine sign
2) you have no idea that a planet can be prominent as well as not

posted August 31, 2012 06:04 PM            

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...cause you might fall in love with the wrong guy and find it hard to let go - especially since Love can come as a solution to Venus square Saturn aspect... so, "KEEP THIS IN MIND" - if that man might show flaws that are not normal for a relationship - quite destructive (like - being abusive/violent, unfaithful, etc) - and "you'll find it hard to let go" - above aspect is the cause for that - can make you delusional about your relationship, that guy and what you deserve (one of the things Neptune's well known for).

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posted August 31, 2012 06:48 PM            

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You're pushing it... you're already over the limits of my patience... and that "only cause i allowed it" - others wouldn't/couldn't accept so many hateful insults from someone like you...

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- already explained that in another topic:

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Good question - at one point i asked my self the same, apparently in modern astrology (or at least the most used in current times) - this detail (feminine negative/masculine positive) was left-out from most description of a sign... i know I've seen it once or twice on some site but the most popular astrology sites don't seem to add this detail anymore. This detail was meant to describe the polarity - where each sign would complete one another - as in Yin and Yang, good and bad, black and white - yet if we put it like that: all woman traits are evil at nature and all man traits are good - which went perfectly with old-school (or even ancient - if you will) but that doesn't go so well in "current time" - where woman aren't a representative of Eve anymore.

Ok, that's not why it's it missing (well - generally speaking at least), even tho it's related to that part... "the way i see it": was simply a confusing detail and judgmental at nature which didn't fit so well in modern astrology. Many things have been changed and reengaged based on a clearer notion... there's no more negative and positive signs - they're both positive and negative... both masculine and feminine - and ofc (feminine was ruled out as being the equivalent of evil)... most of those "so called feminine traits being more masculine in nature".

And Capricorn is a good example for that - when i said that "it's the most masculine sign of the zodiac" i wasn't referring to - to the old description of a sign... was simply a referral based on the Capricorn traits, the ruling planet and wildly used saying where Capricorn is seen as "The father of the zodiac" (hence - Saturn).

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Old-school astrology might be interesting - but it's "counter-productive".

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2) you have no idea that a planet can be prominent as well as not

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"From all that i said in my previous posts - how on earth did you conclude that? "AS USUAL" - you're missing/misinterpreting the point... and i explained it "in so many ways"... as in: even if your Sun doesn't have a strong placement (singleton, ruler, part of a stellium, tight aspects) - it's still a defining factor of the way you are "YOU CAN'T DENY IT (squeeze it out - as you put it)... if the Sun has a weak placement in Virgo and Jupiter has a strong placement in Sagittarius - you can call yourself Jupiterian - but "you can't call yourself Sagittarius - you basic character is still defined by the Sun".

You're exhausting... which makes me wonder "if you're doing this intentionally or not (you do seem to enjoy trolling - a lot)", also - i can feel negative energy coming from you... astrology is one thing - but if you get involved with tarot cards - you can invite that energy in to your cards, it's even worst if you're a reader...

posted September 01, 2012 03:33 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
7thGuardian - you really know your Venus square aspects!!! It didn't copy, but Aeiline's version of Venus square Neptune, your feedback, and the Venus square Neptune is the story of my LIFE. And all this time I've been relying on my Moon's three trines and the this and the that and the other thing in the 7th house. *facepalms* I can't believe I never gave the Venus squares more credit!

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posted September 01, 2012 04:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Aeline:
Venus square Neptune not that bad, i'm used to that - my life's like a fairytale, i've been daydreaming since i was a kid. I think i could write a book someday.

Neptune also trines my ASC exact, so i love its energy.

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...but, that's not from Neptune square Venus... :| - what are all you major Neptune aspects (including sextile)?

posted September 01, 2012 05:20 AM            

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My tarot skills cannot be affected by some patronising person. If you think you know what my character is, then you re over estimating yourself

Your attempts to play it cool are pitiable and unconvincing. If you MUST know you don't even act like a Gemini, lol. I am wondering if you are completely satisfied with your body - perhaps you have a hard time learning to accept it the way it is? You know you cannot have longer fingers or bigger eyes or.........

And one more thing. I am not a troll. But it's not my fault that you generate and ejaculate so much troll food

posted September 01, 2012 05:31 AM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
...but, that's not from Neptune square Venus... :| - what are all you major Neptune aspects (including sextile)?

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Neptune square Sun
Neptune quincunx Moon
Neptune square Mercury
Neptune square Venus
Neptune quincunx Mars
Neptune quincunx Jupiter
Neptune conjunct Uranus
Neptune conjunct Saturn
Neptune sextile Pluto
Neptune trine ASC

and minor one biquintile MC