posted September 01, 2012 01:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Aeline:
Venus square Neptune not that bad, i'm used to that - my life's like a fairytale, i've been daydreaming since i was a kid. I think i could write a book someday.

Neptune also trines my ASC exact, so i love its energy.

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posted September 01, 2012 01:16 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Right? I agree! Sometimes it can really help soften the blow to situations in life.

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posted September 01, 2012 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
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When it come to the way you are, the way you behave - you're in complete denial, even with written evidence (what you wrote) - it's almost impossible for you to accept that you'd behave in such way... maybe in your eyes - you see yourself as Jekyll (pleasant, sociable, diplomatic) wile the others might sees you as Hyde (the opposite) "sometimes"... obviously - you won't believe me... so ask others... and that can be the result of denying/ignoring your Sun Sign - you can't be aware of what you refuse to accept about yourself - and also "you can't control that part"... which in psychology is known as "defensive personality" - a personality that we create to deal with what we can't accept (can come from a childhood trauma).

And let me make one thing clear - "I didn't ask for this (nobody did - apparently...)" but it's in my NN... it keeps placing in my path all kinds of people that are suppose to be in need for some guidance/help (the kind where i could be useful) - which is something i can perceive "and cause of people that behave like you" - i wish i didn't/couldn't... it's not that i expect it to be easy all the time and i know that - i have higher resistance to such behavior "but I'm not invulnerable" - especially to Scorpio type of hate, the dark kind that can breach the hardest shell... and by now, it's not surprise to me that - most Scorpios are masters at controlling it - they don't show their sting unless you hurt them really bad... it the hand of others is dangerous - those that don't have self control.

Also, as one who was unprepared for the first Saturn return... i feel some empathy for those whom are about to face this situation (between age of 28 - 29) - yet, I'm also aware that's a necessity for some... they couldn't grow-up otherwise (they'd be stuck in high-school or other period of their youth) and that's what life is all about - to grow in some way... to evolve...

That being said - i wish you good luck with your first Saturn return - if that was really your chart, you'll face him around 1 year from now and the more unprepared you are the more you'll suffer (i say this - from experience) - just keep in mind that "whatever happens it's for the best"... for some it's like a walk in the park... cause of some earlier experiences that made them mature at an early age.

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Originally posted by Aeline:
Neptune square Sun
Neptune quincunx Moon
Neptune square Mercury
Neptune square Venus
Neptune quincunx Mars
Neptune quincunx Jupiter
Neptune conjunct Uranus
Neptune conjunct Saturn
Neptune sextile Pluto
Neptune trine ASC

and minor one biquintile MC

I may appear Neptunian though my Moon is very likely to be in 12th house.

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Oh dear... are you by any chance "Alice in wonderland" - or should i say - "Aeline in wonderland" ? .

This song was probably made for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJw5NzrLHz4

...the power to distort reality can be interesting - just "be careful", so you don't get stuck in it - cause it can affect the way you tend to perceive reality... take it from me: "fantasy beats real world in terms of expectations - but real world beats fantasy in terms of experiences..." - but it can be dangerous if they get mixed...

Have only 4 placements - all positive (well - not entirety), but they're tight aspects:

Moon Trine Neptune - Orb 4°00
Saturn Sextile Neptune - Orb 0°00'
Neptune Sextile Pluto - Orb 2°45
Mercury BiQuintile Neptune -Orb 0°01'

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posted September 01, 2012 04:20 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
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holy sh*t is all i can say. my saturn return is 2 years away and if i choose to i'll never experience it. and no self-proclaimed teachers can offer me ANY HELP. CAN YOU READ IN ENGLISH? I DON'T NEED HELP. FROM YOU. YOU CANNOT OFFER ME ANYTHING.

seriously. you are the only one who should learn a lesson from this, for you cannot teach me any. your lesson is: you are not indispensable. you do not bring enlightenment to people. you can be wrong. and people can do without your so called guidance beautifully.

your "guidance" and "advice" are nothing but a travesty. and you cannot stop me from thinking what i think. and you didn't answer my question which was if all your body parts are the size you wish them to be. i suspect not all of them, otherwise you wouldn't be spending ages trying to get a message across that i said was useless to me. and not because i'm simple or stupid or ignore things. i just don't need it. please understand already that some people might not need your help or whatever. it's not help if it doesn't help.

posted September 01, 2012 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Good luck in saying No to Saturn then ..

1 question: - if you don't believe in astrology - what are you doing here? - cause you're mocking astrology with such comments...

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answer mine first it's rude not to answer questions

posted September 01, 2012 04:34 PM            

ok.

posted September 01, 2012 04:36 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
...oh - you're here for trolling.

ok.

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of course its the easiest way to accuse someone of being a troll. but you know what? with you nobody HAS to be a troll, you produce troll food by the ton.

posted September 01, 2012 05:04 PM            

This was her first trolling post:

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Originally posted by andstuff:
Very interesting. "confessions of a late bloomer"

Be careful, seriously. Perhaps what you need is another late bloomer, lol. You must realise cool charismatic people were meant for each other, and someone has to get laid with late bloomers as well. I'm pretty sure late blooming women will be delighted to find someone. Like their last chance to have sex. Brilliant opportunity! No effort required !

Do not despair! There is a consumer for every product! And keep faith! Good things are worth waiting for! And do not forget that late bloomers become attractive by the time they get 35-40! You have so much to look forward to!!

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...in this topic i had no posts intended for her - before the above coment, she started trolling me and latter she's the one accusing me of stalking:

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Originally posted by andstuff:...

you keep stalking me in every single thread i post to and start telling me irrelevant things. why? what have i done to deserve this?

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...yet, besides this topic (the one in which she quoted my post with that trolling comment) - i approached her only in 1 topic...

- this is a public forum - yet if she can't take an opinion from others she insults in the bluntest way possible...

I tried to ignore her insults, but she went over any acceptable limits - and i don't wanna sink to her level - so, little help please...

Thank you.

posted September 02, 2012 08:39 AM            

- i even repeated the same thing under a different context 3 or 4 times and you still didn't get it... which is why i chose to back-off...

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Was trying to be helpful - but i lost my patience (with the help of House 12 - i did indulge more than others could/would) with your negative, insulting and hateful attitude... you're on a "public forum" - that being said, it's one thing to act like that about yourself - and another, to project that image on all girls from Capricorn... a insulting, hateful and degrading image that has very little truth in it... and that's the 2'nd reason why i tried to help you understand that - what you're doing is wrong - "not just for you, but for others as well."

Ironically - the last person that behaved like that was also a Capricorn (she had no problem with her identity - but she displayed a similar negative and hateful attitude about others), yet - I'll take it as a coincidence out of respect for other Capricorns - which don't behave in a similar way... because i really dislike stereotypes where all persons with a specific Sun Sign - are suppose to be the same, yes - we have some common traits... but cause of other aspects - no person is alike...

Well, a Capricorn and a Gemini are to different and i'm sorry i couldn't be of any help to you, sorry for being - "counter-productive (you might have better luck with Virgos)" - that being said, as long as you ignore me... i can do the same... i'll try to be more careful around Capricorns, as said above - you're not all alike...

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...it seemed to be what you wanted - but you just couldn't leave it at that..

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Let's move on - as in: "what's an insult?" - and here's the definition from a public dictionary:

insult

1.to treat or speak to insolently or with contemptuous rudeness; affront.
2.to affect as an affront; offend or demean.
3.Archaic. to attack; assault.

So basically - you were insulting yourself (and other Capricorns) with your Capricorn remarks "and i tried to help you with that" and in return - i end-up being treated in same way... and when i started complaining about your behavior - you went in denial (again)... and started projecting your image on me... even tho "i was trying to help you wile you kept spiting in my face"...

- as for "derogatory comment" - your first post to me in this topic was meant to be like that... and you didn't stop there....

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Originally posted by andstuff:
who on earth told you i don't love myself?

do not despair, if you can't impress me you still can impress someone simpler who will look up to you. you will find your audience to preach to one day.

so what do you propose? seriously? i'm dying of curiosity!

1) admit i am an idiot with no social skills
2) admit i am not meant for charismatic cool guys
3) date late bloomers and other rejects and misfits and leftovers no one else wants
4) dress in grey and brown and look 50 years older
5) be friends with other social rubbish everyone keeps at an arm's length
6) never go out, dancing and looking good is for Leos and Libras
7) worship saturn? well, yeah, i am so rubbish i could do no better
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this strikes me as some conspiracy whereby boring guys try to get cool girls to join their boring club where no charismatic popular guys would fancy looking, to have less competition, so to say.

i am too good to be a cap and live the cap way. would be a waste of my body and my youth and my coolness.

and i am wondering why you are so interested in my chart anyway. i can't even remember my own, let alone think of other people's.

PS please reconcile yourself with the fact that you cannot teach me anything and communicate me any eye-openers i would be grateful for. and if you knew anything about astrology you would notice from my chart i hate being talked down to, preached to, lectured to etc. etc., this approach is just counter-productive. but because you apparently don't know astrology that well i'll do you a favour and point it out. see how nice i am? despite your horrible overtones, please mind.

you keep stalking me in every single thread i post to and start telling me irrelevant things. why? what have i done to deserve this?

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...believe it or not - i didn't attack you (even tho - you give me plenty of opportunities in which i could have retailed "easily")... on the contrary - as i stated couple of time "was trying to help you" - but cause of your offensive behavior i chose to give-up... simply put it - i don't like verbal violence and as a Gemini - i do have an advantage from this point of view, but - "i chose not-to" - this being a moderated forum... and truth be told - "you're no challenge" - would be like cheating and as the saying goes: "with greater power comes greater responsibility."

- but here's "a short demonstration", starting with the beginning of above post as in: "do not despair, if you can't impress me you still can impress someone simpler who will look up to you. you will find your audience to preach to one day."

"Well, my dear - i seem to have a big problem when it comes to impressing simple-minded girls - since they find it hard to understand me - i might be to boring for them, they're more interest in "cool guys" with big muscles and no brain - since they speak the same language. Air signs is simply not their thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jhm05olS8Qs - and also, i'm probably to young to impress someone like you - i'm only 29... maybe if i was 6 years older... i'd have a chance. "

...that's just a demonstration (not meant to be taken serious) - since you acted so curious about "my Gemini nature" and whether i can fit the shoes of a Gemini (or should i say "the mind")... so yes - i can do that, "i just don't want to use it in such way" - would have been to easy, helping you was the challenging part - and at that... i failed.

posted September 02, 2012 12:27 PM            

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i didn't say a single derogatory thing about you. i didn't say anything that would characterize you as a person. nothing negative. your words i did. your UNGROUNDED UNFOUNDED UNSUBSTANTIATED PREACHING - yes. but this was not about you, just things you were saying. i didn't attack you either. and if you don't realise that your lectur-y preach-y syntax is ONE MASSIVE INSULT, then i do not know what to say. you are trying to look down on another person. why? because they are inferior to you? are you so convinced?

you insisted on having a conversation with me. YET you made it anti-conversation. when one preaches what is the other one supposed to do? to humbly nod thinking the grace of god is descending? i apologise, this was not possible. because you failed to substantiate anything you said.

a moderated forum is a place where direct insults (for example "you are a stupid ****er") are not allowed. anything else is opinions, like you were trying to say.

apparently you are allowed to have opinions on me, but not the other way round? why? is your opinion absolute? how come?

posted September 02, 2012 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
i didn't say a single derogatory thing about you. i didn't say anything that would characterize you as a person.

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...maybe it was your evil twin (hmm, makes sense now - your Capricorn Sun - the one you chose to deny, might have a personality of its own):

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Originally posted by andstuff:
Very interesting. "confessions of a late bloomer"

Be careful, seriously. Perhaps what you need is another late bloomer, lol. You must realise cool charismatic people were meant for each other, and someone has to get laid with late bloomers as well. I'm pretty sure late blooming women will be delighted to find someone. Like their last chance to have sex. Brilliant opportunity! No effort required !

Do not despair! There is a consumer for every product! And keep faith! Good things are worth waiting for! And do not forget that late bloomers become attractive by the time they get 35-40! You have so much to look forward to!!

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Question: "Do you see above quote - or do you lose your conscience if you try to look at it?"

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a moderated forum is a place where direct insults (for example "you are a stupid ****er") are not allowed. anything else is opinions, like you were trying to say.

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...i can call you stupid in 999 ways without using any insulting word - a verbal attack is an insult, it's as simple as that...

PS.Sorry to others for the derailing of this topic...

posted September 02, 2012 02:35 PM            

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okay, i don't understand half of you attempts at English, not sure i understood correctly.

who gave you the idea i look down on myself? silly silly conclusion. you addressed me as if i were a schoolgirl or something, a stupid person who knows nothing at all and needs to be enlightened. maybe you don't see this but i do. you wanted to have a conversation with me. i honestly tried to HINT this tone is not gonna work if you want to convince me of something. you didn't change your tone. even though i said i find it offensive. you cited your NN as an explanation, which is a poor excuse. if your purpose was to convince me, you failed because your tone insulted me. if your purpose was to tickle your ego, well then, this cannot be helped. if your ego needs tickling and it was done at my expense, then whatevs. but unfortunately you didn't convince me. as an acquaintance of mine once said, never assume, assumption is the root of all ****-ups. whatever you said to me is based on your dubious assumptions that are unsubstantiated. every time i point it out you have nothing to object.

as for my comment - so what? are you so special no one is allowed an ironic comment addressed to you? is irony prohibited? since when? as they say, this is the internet. if you came here to have your ego tickled, perhaps not the best of places.