posted June 27, 2017 04:12 PM            

Edited: it did work! I input Buenos Aires and I'm a Pisc rising. Instead of Saggy rising.
If I relocate to my hubby's family town, I'd be Cappy rising and my houses would be pretty differnt. My empty 1stHouse woyld be full and my NN in my 8H. I have thought of us moving there and on the travel portion of the astro.com choices, it's positive choice for me.

Sabian for the relocation Rising:
16-17 deg Capricorn

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posted June 27, 2017 04:49 PM            

as i have moved a couple of times,i use each relocation chart as a different experience of myself blending together forming how i see me now.

I use the multi composite option on astro.com.

posted June 28, 2017 11:19 PM            

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Originally posted by ana_bee:
If a relocation chart really has that much influence on us, then how valid can a natal chart be??

I find all those chart options majorally confusing!

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Excellent question. And all those other charts do get confusing -- even for practitioners who are supposed to know.

The use of more and more different charts for all these various purposes actually is a signal that the astrologer(s) in question hasn't yet learned how to get the relevant information from the birth chart itself or from its natural progressions.

I've been working up a series for my blog related to this, about avoiding astrology-based confusion and faux concepts in astrology. Still working on it so as to be clarifying, informative, but not insulting to the intentions of astrologers using such charts.

If anyone wants to contribute questions related to this here in this thread, maybe it'll help me craft more a Q&A article so I can create the clarity I'm looking to get across. Astrology should help us develop an objective understanding of ourselves that leads to clarity, not take us down a rabbit hole of confusion.

Just because there are some event correlations to be found in charts like a relocation chart (like JFK's astrocartography Pluto line running through Dallas, TX) does not mean we can effectively use such charts for making decisions in our lives or avoiding every possible perceived negative thing that might happen to us. Unfortunately, there is commercial value in promoting all these things as you can see from a brief look at astro.com and its long list of chart options.

The natal factors related to possible significant distant relocation from one's birth place are:
- 4th house factors
- 9th house factors
- Lunar Node axis and aspects
- Planets like Jupiter, Uranus, etc, in major aspect or configuration with Asc/Moon/MC.
* both longitudes and declinations must be used as planetary positions and aspects, house cusps are functioning in both.

The most common problem in getting this accurate information comes from charts with an inaccurate Ascendant degree, which throws off some or all house cusps and aspects to Asc/MC.

What has happened typically in modern astrology is that enthusiastic students are frequently too eager to move on to fancier more advanced concepts and fail to understand the natal chart deeply enough. Beginning or intermediate level students then jump to the various 'other' types of charts (relocated charts, persona charts, relationship/composites, etc), before gaining a truly clear view of how the Earth rotates and planets move. All the while they fail to see how to gain fuller information from the natal chart itself. I know because I did it too, and a decade ago I had to backtrack and fill in some gaps in my understanding.

Modern astrology is defined by a kind of eclectic attitude that isn't necessarily bad, but too readily substitutes some 'other' chart or procedure for a deeper understanding of the natal.

posted June 29, 2017 07:52 PM            

My Relocation chart changes my natal very much:
Moon in 11th instead of 9th
5th house stellium (Venus, Pluto, Jupiter, NN, Vertex) instead of 4th house stellium
Cancer AC instead of Leo, trine my Scorpio Venus and Pisces Saturn
Moon is the new chart ruler, and heavily aspected
Pisces MC instead of Taurus MC, square my Sun/Mercury, and with the ruler Neptune conj. Uranus in the 7th square my moon

Another thing is that I'm moving for my boyfriend, and my Relocation AC is conjunct his natal DC..

posted June 13, 2018 07:16 PM            

Natally I have a Scorpio ASC but when I moved, it became Sag. I do feel lighter, happier and more free here. My Venus and Mars move into the 9th house and I have definitely spent my time here learning and expanding.