posted December 01, 2012 07:14 AM            

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Originally posted by lyecry:
Not if I'm being compensated accordingly $$$. Invest in getting involved with upper class men. Know your role (don't step on the wife's toes), set goals (will he help you get through school, or start a business?), know how to invest my money. Learn his trade and take on his knowledge (especially if he's in the business/finance industry).

Play the mistress, but don't come out empty handed.

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LOL or the girl/woman could work her way up like the rest of the world with morals. Some people...

posted December 01, 2012 07:21 AM            

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Originally posted by starfairy:
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1) Hard Pisces and Neptune influences in the love sector makes the person very self-sacrificial, compassionate, impressionable, and delusional when it comes to relationships.​

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3) Heavy 12th house influences can also indicate someone who loves secret relationships. This is especially true if Venus is in the 12th house. This is similar to the Neptune/Piscean influence I mentioned before. The 12th house is all about secrets, and having Venus in here would point to a fondness for secret affairs. It turns them on. It's the kind of relationship which makes them feel most comfortable. Like Neptune/Pisces people, they love the unattainable and tend to fantasize about/idealize their lovers, and might not see their relationships clearly.

​4) Heavily Saturnian people ​may also be susceptible to entering relationships with "taken" men. Especially with hard aspects, the person might feel unworthy of love, and has a general distrust for the opposite sex. He/she expects people to cheat, lie, deceive, so these relationships become "normal" to them. If you think every guy is a cheater, it's easy to end up being with a cheater!

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5) Heavily Uranian people. Too independent, commitment-phobic, and restless to have a "regular" relationship. The people who offer them "real" relationships scare them off. What turns a Uranian person on is often someone he/she cannot have, hence the attraction to an unavailable man. Also, the attraction stems from the fact that they, themselves, are incapable of having a committed relationship, so they pick people who have no time for them (i.e. people who are already in relationships).

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What's considered "heavy"? I have a stellium in my 11th house, a stellium in my 7th house and Gemini ASC. So I'm sort of very airy. On top of that I have Sun, Mercury, and Venus square Saturn. And also Sun, Mercury, and Venus square Neptune. On top of that I have Moon trine Uranus. THEN in my 7th house I have Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune together. I have Mars and Jupiter in my 12th.

posted December 01, 2012 08:06 AM            

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Originally posted by lyecry:
Not if I'm being compensated accordingly $$$. Invest in getting involved with upper class men. Know your role (don't step on the wife's toes), set goals (will he help you get through school, or start a business?), know how to invest my money. Learn his trade and take on his knowledge (especially if he's in the business/finance industry).

Play the mistress, but don't come out empty handed.

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posted December 01, 2012 11:08 AM            

What am I doing wrong?

Okay, I’m tired of beating around the bush. I’m a beautiful
(spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I’m articulate and classy.
I’m not from New York. I’m looking to get married to a guy who makes at
least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind
that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don’t think
I’m overreaching at all.

Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could
you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around
200 – 250. But that’s where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won’t get
me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married
to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she’s not as pretty as
I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I
get to her level?

Here are my questions specifically:

- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars,
restaurants, gyms

-What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won’t hurt my
feelings

-Is there an age range I should be targeting (I’m 25)?

- Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east
side so plain? I’ve seen really ‘plain jane’ boring types who have
nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I’ve seen drop dead
gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What’s the story
there?

- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows – lawyer, investment
banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they
hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?

- How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for
MARRIAGE ONLY

Please hold your insults – I’m putting myself out there in an honest
way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I’m being up front
about it. I wouldn’t be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn’t
able to match them – in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a
nice home and hearth.

it’s NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial
interests

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THE ANSWER
Dear Pers-431649184:

I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully
about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament.
Firstly, I’m not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your
bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here’s how I
see it.

Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a
crappy business deal. Here’s why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you
suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring
my money. Fine, simple. But here’s the rub, your looks will fade and my
money will likely continue into perpetuity…in fact, it is very likely
that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won’t
be getting any more beautiful!

So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning
asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation
accelerates! Let me explain, you’re 25 now and will likely stay pretty
hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in
earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!

So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy
and hold…hence the rub…marriage. It doesn’t make good business sense
to “buy you” (which is what you’re asking) so I’d rather lease. In case
you think I’m being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were
to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It’s
as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.

Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So,
I wonder why a girl as “articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful”
as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to
believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K
hasn’t found you, if not only for a tryout.

By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then
we wouldn’t need to have this difficult conversation.

With all that said, I must say you’re going about it the right way.
Classic “pump and dump.”
I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of
lease, let me know.

posted December 01, 2012 11:42 AM            

P.S. 20 days and im dead ._.

posted December 01, 2012 02:34 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LuvinU:
[b]^^^^^ *sigh* yes. I have all but the sun-neptune contact.

Venus sextile Pluto
Venus conjunct Neptune
Neptune Trine Asc
Uranus Square Mars
Neptune Trine Mars

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posted December 01, 2012 02:44 PM            

Whatever floats your boat.
I prefer living life the right way. Sure it takes more effort, but at least I sleep easier at night.

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Originally posted by lyecry:
Not if I'm being compensated accordingly $$$. Invest in getting involved with upper class men. Know your role (don't step on the wife's toes), set goals (will he help you get through school, or start a business?), know how to invest my money. Learn his trade and take on his knowledge (especially if he's in the business/finance industry).

Play the mistress, but don't come out empty handed.

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posted December 01, 2012 02:47 PM            

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Originally posted by StacyLewis:

...You know that's freelance prostitution, right?

If I've learned anything in the past five years, it's that it's a shame what people will let their pain turn them into. You're just the latest example in a long, long line...

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posted December 01, 2012 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
LOL or the girl/woman could work her way up like the rest of the world with morals. Some people...

I don't know which mistress is worse. The type with this kind of mindset or the delusional ones who believe the man REALLY loves her but "just can't leave his wife right now."

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posted December 01, 2012 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by LuvinU:
I didn't post those aspects that coincided with your post, for the hell of it. I don't agree that it's just the harsh aspects.

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posted December 02, 2012 11:44 AM            

Its all perception really, and If I can make a buck out of it, i'd rather put on my rose tinted glasses, thank you very much. lol. It's the worlds oldest profession...

(I have venus squ. neptune and moon squ. saturn aspect.)

posted December 02, 2012 12:18 PM            

prostitution - those who offer sex for money = driven by economic necessity vs insufficiency in some way or another. (the goal is to provide oneself or ones dependents with two of life's necessities, food and shelter - but also to obtain luxury or status items so - vanity is another calling here in the more negative of cases.) Paid sex is a valid occupation - even if illegal for the most part. - one of the worlds oldest professions.

A person offering sex for free - usually does so for pleasure or due to personal insecurities... So more often than not this is a different case entirely - these people have psychological reasons for their behavior --- not monetary~ so they don't have much of anything to do with the above class~ Free sex is an addiction or centered around some core psychological disorder, disease even. (nobody pays to have a disease, right?)

apples - oranges ---
the only similarity lies with social perception --- both are considered immoral by most modern social/cultural standards.

well - that's my 2 cents.

----- Anyway - just to bring it back on topic ---- lol sorta'

My ex's long time "mistress" was a Cancer sun, Capricorn Moon, (and I believe a Pisces Rising). It's a part of my past I'd rather forget~ but find it hard to~ since I was the one being a "tool".... She basically got whatever she needed from my ex (they tried to hide their relationship from the beginning of my relationship with him, but it had been going on far longer and was easily distinguished from a normal friendship after the 3rd month of activities) --- any who, had a lot of issues of her own... was dependent on her family and men like him (the ex) to bail her out all the time. --- pathetic and sorry - both our roles in that one. I have many regrets - dealing with these two is probably on the top three list. I can't say she had no shame, I believe she did feel sorry, even if she couldn't very well say so. Either way we were definitely both idiots - we both were used and abused at his discretion and were both to blame for our terrible experience.

I'm more curious about how to identify a likely John-aspect.... to avoid making any future regrets!~ lol no?

posted December 02, 2012 12:49 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Why even attach a dollar value to sex? Who wants to pay for it when it's available? Why would anyone want to have sex with someone who attaches a price tag to it?

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Those who pay for s-e-x are stupid indeed. lol

Some want to fulfill their physical needs but need it be discreet. (like politicans. Did you hear about that Eliot Splitzer scandal? Its funny because he's a governor, made a speech about being ethically proper/puritan lifestyle when no ones watching, then we find out a month earlier he hired a prostitue for like $4,300! Of course, he was found out about. He resigned becuz of it)

posted December 02, 2012 01:00 PM            

And there's the Bunny Ranch in the states~ <.<

(<----- *bucket list place to adventure off too before croaking* --- lol)

think the guy who runs these ranches said they have Tiger Wood's mistress there now~ dunno if anyone mentioned the ranch yet~ --- just throwing that out there~ haha <3 gotta love America and all the capitalism/consumerism... everything has a price - and they will exploit it all one day thru mass-marketing!

posted December 02, 2012 07:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I see myself paying cuz they offer true companionship and intimacy. Others do it for the thrill. Some pay for someone to talk to, close conversations. And different types too. GFE which means girl friend experience, PSE, porn star experience, etc. So many reasons
Some are loners, need a babe to attend an event with. Others closet gays and need a gal to hang around the house with.

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posted December 02, 2012 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by birdy:
Venus opp Neptune. Venus aspecting Neptune in general. Venus/Pluto doesn't seem right. Venus/Pluto is too possessive to desire to be someone's mistress. Venus/Uranus seeks out unavailable men because the person isn't ready for commitment.

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posted December 02, 2012 08:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Debby4:
I have Venus square Uranus and Neptune. I don't like unavailable men.But I also have Venus semi-square Pluto. I don't think I want to be a "prostitute" but if push comes to shove I would to provide for my family. I would rather be a sugar baby or escort. Venus in Taurus maybe because I would do it for the luxury and material things it MIGHT bring. Then again I'm just an impressionable teenage girl who shouldn't be reading this type of stuff anyway... but I can't help it's so.. fascinating to wonder if I might be a "street walker" one day. Also with Uranus and Neptune in the 2nd house and Venus practically in the 6th who knows! O.O

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