posted September 15, 2012 12:09 PM            

If you believe in past lives, could you please, see what sign is your Pluto in the draconic chart, then see the period when it was in this sign - before you were born in this life, and tell if you have ever felt drawn to that period or have some memories of that, sympathies or whatever!

draconic is said to be a chart of our immediate past life, so i know that a few people try to hunt down the possible time period when it could have happened. Try yourself and see!

posted September 15, 2012 12:17 PM            

St Paul started his preaching in 45. Christianity broke off from Judaism at this time.

Ming-Ti introduces Buddhism to China in 58.

The 287 to 305 period was almost exactly the reign of the Emperor Diocletian, who reigned from 284 to 305. During his reign the empire split into two segments ruled by four Caesars, with Diocletian as the head Caesar. Carcausis became the emperor of the west (and so proclaimed himself in 287). However, the empire came back together somewhat in 306. The empire had gotten too big to be ruled by one person from Rome.

The 532 to 550 period was the time of King Arthur who died around 537. Justinian (527-565) codified Roman law and spread Byzantine administration to Northern Africa. During this time Saint Sophia Basillica in Constantinople was built, also Church of S. Vitale in Ravenna. Although Arthur kept a part of England free of the Saxons, it only lasted until 550 when a new wave conquered all the remaining resistance.

During the 778 to 795 period Charlemagne defeated by Basques. Japanese culture codifies tea ceremony – oldest known prints are from this period. Empress Irene becomes the ruler of the Byzantine Empire – she restores image worship. She is imprisoned in 791 for cruelty by her son, Charlemagne. The building of the mosque of Cordoba begins (takes over 200 years to complete).

Offa, the English king, increased the size of British rule, but this was also the time of the first Norse invaders. Norse invaders would be a problem for the next 200 years.

In 1024 to 1041 Conrad II, the first in the line of Franconian German kings, has his reign. Reign is from 1024 through 1039. Pluto crossing into Capricorn is associated with the beginning of the decline of Byzantine power. In 1035 Canute dies and his kingdom is divided among three sons (England, Norway, and Denmark).

In the 1270 to 1287 period When Pluto entered Capricorn in 1270 Marco Polo went to China, Thomas Aquinas wrote "Summa Theologica", and Moses de Leon, who wrote the Zohar, was born. This is the typical pattern, the changes brought about by Pluto in Sagittarius leads to some striking religious or political event as soon as Pluto enters Capricorn. Obviously, the Zohar and Summa Theologica were in preparation while Pluto was in Sagittarius but were published when Pluto first entered Capricorn. From 1268 to 1271 there was a vacancy in the Papacy (another turbulence towards the end of Pluto in Sagittarius righted somewhat by Pluto entering Capricorn – by 1276 there were four popes). In 1273 Rumi, who founded the whirling dervishes, died.

In France, Louis IX was succeeded by Phillip III while in England, Henry III was succeeded by Edward I (who had actually had power for years). Edward I was immensely practical as well as passionate. His main claim to fame was his battle with the Scots, although he also reformed the courts and the relationship with the church. As befits a ruler in Capricornian times, he was Spartan.

From 1516 to 1532 was the middle of the Renaissance. When Pluto entered Capricorn, Martin Luther posted his 95 theses in 1517, initiating the Protestant Reformation. Again, a major religious/political event initiated when Pluto enters Capricorn but having its roots in Pluto in Sagittarius (when Luther observed the venality and corruption of the Roman Catholic Church of that time). Prior to this, in 1515 it was declared that books must have the permission of the Papacy to be published.

During the period from 1529 to 1536, by a series of acts, the Church of England was born, separate from Rome, pushed forward by Henry the Eight’s need to divorce and remarry to acquire an heir. Capricorn is the sign of independence, and Pluto is irrevocable acts – Pluto in Capricorn is a time of new independent powers which make irrevocable separations from older institutions. In this case, it was the split of Protestants and the Church of England from Roman Catholicism.

During 1515 to 1519 the Turks doubled the size of their empire by conquering Persia, Mesopotamia, Syria, and Eqypt.

posted September 15, 2012 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
^forever. Taurus is the largest constellation there is.

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posted September 15, 2012 12:25 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
wonderfull so lets start pinpointing

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Pluto (to transform) in Taurus (Enduring and Possessive).

You seek to transform in an enduring and possessive way in matters related to personal wealth, You make changes slowly (Pluto in detriment, fixed unchanging sign) in a controlled way in increasing your wealth. You are a materialist (earth) and tend to ignore or be unaware (resistance to change) of forces that are acting below the surface (Pluto) which may make radical transformations. People under this sign might have strong sex impulses.

posted September 15, 2012 12:55 PM            

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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
Pluto (to transform) in Taurus (Enduring and Possessive).

You seek to transform in an enduring and possessive way in matters related to personal wealth, You make changes slowly (Pluto in detriment, fixed unchanging sign) in a controlled way in increasing your wealth. You are a materialist (earth) and tend to ignore or be unaware (resistance to change) of forces that are acting below the surface (Pluto) which may make radical transformations. People under this sign might have strong sex impulses.

(1853-1884, 2098-2129)

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so id guess i was some rich horny and greedy lord in the 19 century....XD

posted September 15, 2012 01:52 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
Draconic me should still be alive today. Pluto in last decan of leo. So a boomer.

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posted September 15, 2012 01:59 PM            

My Draco Pluto was in 5 degree sagg.

So I go over to http://www.astro.com/swisseph/swepha_e.htm to check out ephemeris for the past centuries, and I click on a year 1750, which just happened to be the year where Pluto was at 5 degrees of Sagg. How supercool is that!!!!!!!

posted September 15, 2012 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
Draconic me should still be alive today. Pluto in last decan of leo. So a boomer.

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posted September 15, 2012 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sand:
[b]Draconic me should still be alive today. Pluto in last decan of leo. So a boomer.

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28.

posted September 15, 2012 02:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Very uncanny.

My Draco Pluto was in 5 degree sagg.

So I go over to http://www.astro.com/swisseph/swepha_e.htm to check out ephemeris for the past centuries, and I click on a year 1750, which just happened to be the year where Pluto was at 5 degrees of Sagg. How supercool is that!!!!!!!

I do believe in past lives, and I am going to research that particular period.

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posted September 15, 2012 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
28.

Y r the threads so scary today?

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posted September 15, 2012 03:36 PM            

"hroughout much of the 42 to 60 period, Claudius reigned (for further info, see "I, Claudius")."
Yes very much drawn to this period. In fact I believe that "draw" to be the reason why I studied Latin, and why it came so easily to me to learn the language in the first place. It has always felt like we were a "natural fit", the language and me.

When I was reading the book "I, Claudius", it was similiar to the experience I had when reading "Gone with the wind", it was more than just vivid imagination, fuelled by the words coming to life, it was like I was "re-experiencing" the scenes, complete with visuals, the audio, down to a certain smell I remembered.
As an interesting note, even though I know the Roman empire existed after that, it "feels" (for me) like it ended with Vespasian`s reign.

"In the 1270 to 1287 period When Pluto entered Capricorn in 1270 Marco Polo went to China"
oh my God, yes, yes, yes. Just last year or so, I suddenly was starting to dream of Samarkand again, after so many years.

However, I do feel this "draw" also in terms of the late 19th century and the 1920`s.

And then there are of course the times far far far back in time, Mesopotamia especially and England/Ireland at Druidan times.

BTW Pluto rules my 12th house natally and my Draconic 8th house.

posted September 15, 2012 03:40 PM            

It has a stellium in Taurus and my natal SN and Moon are conjunct in Taurus. The past life chart's Saturn conjuncts my natal Ascendant and the past life chart's NN conjuncts my natal Saturn, both under a 1 degree orb.

posted September 15, 2012 04:20 PM            

1) Find the degree and minutes, and seconds of your Draconic Pluto;
2) Find the last time when Tr. Pluto was conjunct it. The last time Tr.Pluto made a transit to Dr.one, was always direct. But there are people with retro ones too, lol. So we take the 2 last dates and choose which one applies most. I mean, we have to have some major connections to our own chart for this to happen.
3) Take that date, make up a chart. And this is when the seconds come in - correct our birth time in that chart until you get perfect Pluto placement from your Draconic.

posted September 15, 2012 04:53 PM            

when i went to california for the first time it felt familiar, the ocean and all. and i had always thought punk bands like the new york dolls and ramones sounded familiar, like i used to love them before. and not so long ago i went to see a band everyone compares to ramones and my thoughts were "this is just like the 70s" (uh-huh, born in 85). was also funny when i put on ripped shorts with fishnet kind of tights, felt like i'd done this before

posted September 15, 2012 04:54 PM            

So, as i said, interesting is the fact that both Sun and Mercury are in Saggy, just like in the Draconic.

It turns out i may have had ASC of Leo (!!!) why so many exclamations? Because now i have a bunch of everything in Leo, including SN - from where i come from, Moon - also the past, and Jupiter and many of the asteroids i use! This *ASC* happens to conjunct my own Moon and Jupiter, and that means that it also conjuncts the SN of my love.

Also a grand trine of Neptune, Uranus and Pluto.

She had Sun in the 5th house, a tie with Leo as well. And what's even more fun, she had NN in 5th house also! I have my Own NN in 5th too! Maybe that means that i didn't learn the lessons i had to learn in that time? It's also the fact that she had her Moon in 11th, not far from the SN, just like i do. And the degree of nodes itself... Mine are in Leo/Aqua 3'21. Hers are Cancer/Capricorn 3'17.

posted September 15, 2012 05:15 PM            

Her Saturn squares my Sun by a degree. That's what i have now!

My Sun is on her IC EXACTLY! And her Sun and Mercury is on my IC by 1 degree!

My Moon conjunct her ASC by 2 degrees, and Jupiter conjunct her ASC EXACT, also my Hekate and Lucifer, and Eros are conjunct her ASC EXACT. And her Lucifer is on my North Node EXACT.

Also my Ellison (which was her name) is conjunct her DSC by 2 degrees.

Her Saturn is opposite mine (1)

My Neptune is conjunct her Pluto EXACT

Her Neptune is conjunct my ASC

My Uranus is conjunct her NN

Wow, her Hyperborea is opposite my Moon tightly and conjunct my Ellison EXACT. It matters, because it was in England. AND my Hyperborea is conjunct her Neptune EXACT!

Her DNA is conjunct my Antivertex EXACT !!!

Her Chiron on my DSC by 2

And her Chiron is conjunct my Karma EXACT

My Memoria conjunct her DNA EXACT!!!

Her Hekate conjunct my Sun EXACT (now i have hekate conjunct my Moon EXACT, lol)