posted September 30, 2012 11:33 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Personally, Vedic just doesn't click with me. I don't use it at all. I don't feel like my chart fits me. They're one sign behind most of the time, and they also go by moon sign rather than sun, in Vedic. With this system, my moon would be Gemini, and come one, you've all seen how emo I can get as a Cancer moon.

My main interests in astrology are personality analysis and synastry--understanding people better, having better relationships. I don't use divination, do predictive astrology, or anything like that.

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yeah me too it doesnt fit me either, but ive read its somehow way more accurate than western astro. i would love if somebody could teach us some stuff, cuz it seems like accuracy is something we havent totally figured out yet with western astro

posted October 01, 2012 01:45 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Personally, Vedic just doesn't click with me. I don't use it at all. I don't feel like my chart fits me. They're one sign behind most of the time, and they also go by moon sign rather than sun, in Vedic. With this system, my moon would be Gemini, and come one, you've all seen how emo I can get as a Cancer moon.

My main interests in astrology are personality analysis and synastry--understanding people better, having better relationships. I don't use divination, do predictive astrology, or anything like that.

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posted October 01, 2012 02:55 AM            

The thing about Vedic astrology is that the way the information is interpreted is totally different then the style of interpretation used in western. You can’t really study your Vedic chart by signs, houses, and aspects in exactly the same way as you do in western. Also, Vedic uses the 27 Nakshatras (constellations), and well as many different kinds of divisional charts (harmonics) to study various different areas of life… I have dabbled somewhat in Vedic astrology, and it really is a complex topic. If you try to study your Vedic chart the same way that you study your western chart, you’ll wind up getting the wrong impression! You have to study the Vedic style of interpretation first. What Vedic astrology is good at doing is prediction. It’s very good for looking at the types of things that will happen in your life, rather then giving a psychological analysis. It’s very karma, destiny based. They also have a totally different system of judging compatibility.

But while Vedic astrology is very good with prediction and destiny…

Western astrology is very good for psychological analysis and personality profiling. So if you’re curious about somebody and their way of thinking, feeling, and doing, western astrology can help with this. I have to admit that Western astrology is my first love and probably always will be. I may have dabbled in Vedic astrology, but I’m way more expert in the Western style of interpretation and it’s always been my passion, and my priority when it comes to astrological study. This is probably because I find the topic of personality and psychological tendencies very interesting. Western astrological synastry is also really useful for understanding how peoples energies bounce off each other and mix together. And it is very useful for showing our romantic preferences, and attitudes in relationships.

I remember listing to a pod-cast about Western Vs Vedic astrology form an astrologer who uses both. The astrologer described the Vedic astrology is calculated against the constellations (the stars), and as such tends to describe the distant, objective reality of situations, events, and people. It’s more fatalistic, and foretelling of actual happenings, and outside circumstances. Like an overview of our life path.

The astrologer then went on to describe that Western astrology is very based on the tropical zodiac, which has to do with the changing of our seasons on solstices and equinoxes (on earth). And as such, the Western natal chart will describe our own personal, biased, unique, individual point of view in the world. We tend to identify more with our Western astrological chart in terms of personality traits, and perspectives that we have, because the Western chart describes our psychological outlook. It describes what is real for us in our immediate world day to day.

I find that this way of looking at the both of the systems as being valid in different ways fit for me.

posted October 31, 2012 05:29 PM            

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Originally posted by blue house:
There were some good points with vedic but i think WA is more advanced and another problem with VA is its basicly very hard to get a chart and there isnt as much info as WA so a new person coming into this will go to WA because there is way more info online

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posted October 31, 2012 05:36 PM            

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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
Vedic can be used for a lot of things western astrology can't.. I found one guy on youtube who has an AWESOME take on placements that if you were to apply them to western, you'd get a whole new view on astrology as you know it. It's awesome.

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posted October 31, 2012 05:39 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
yeah me too it doesnt fit me either, but ive read its somehow way more accurate than western astro. i would love if somebody could teach us some stuff, cuz it seems like accuracy is something we havent totally figured out yet with western astro

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posted October 31, 2012 06:09 PM            

Having said that, I'm not a big Vedic fan simply because it makes no sense, to me anyway. I have to agree with others here, when I saw how it moves planets into totally different signs, I wrote it off then and there because none of the Vedic charts I pulled up, fit me or any of the people I know.

Example : An ex of mine is extremely Neptunian/Piscean in character, inclinations, and personality traits. That's really not an exaggeration. He's intensely Piscean and his western astrology chart, reflects that. But when I pull up his chart in Vedic everything is in Aquarius? He's nothing like an Aquarian or Uranian person.

Or how my happy-go-lucky younger sister (who has a stellium in Sag), suddenly becomes a super-Scorpio in Vedic, which makes nooooo sense. Or how I'm very, very Leo in an almost stereotypical sense, but in Vedic it moves all my Leo placements into Cancer, a sign with a totally different energy to Leo.

...Really?

posted October 31, 2012 06:27 PM            

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Originally posted by StacyLewis:
It's not entirely accurate to compare western astrology to fast-food; especially when it has roots that go back just as far (or even further) than Vedic. Western Astrology has been around a really, REALLY long time and in that sense it's time-tested to have at least some degree of truth and validity to it. If there was nothing real there to it, it would've fallen by the wayside centuries ago with other forms of divination that didn't last.

Having said that, I'm not a big Vedic fan simply because it makes no sense, to me anyway. I have to agree with others here, when I saw how it moves planets into totally different signs, I wrote it off then and there because none of the Vedic charts I pulled up, fit me or any of the people I know.

Example : An ex of mine is extremely Neptunian/Piscean in character, inclinations, and personality traits. That's really not an exaggeration. He's intensely Piscean and his western astrology chart, reflects that. But when I pull up his chart in Vedic everything is in Aquarius? He's nothing like an Aquarian or Uranian person.

Or how my happy-go-lucky younger sister (who has a stellium in Sag), suddenly becomes a super-Scorpio in Vedic, which makes nooooo sense. Or how I'm very, very Leo in an almost stereotypical sense, but in Vedic it moves all my Leo placements into Cancer, a sign with a totally different energy to Leo.

...Really?

I'm not trying to convince anyone else to be anti-Vedic. If it works for other people, fine. I just don't bother with it because it's always wrong when I do - glaringly so.

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Or even farther, do you know, Hindu Astrology came first. As the first astrology in existence, Western has additional planets, improvisations and came at a later date. You can consult your former source Wikipedia for that

Glaringly or not, you still wrote two paragraphs proving nothing, with a bitter attitude and have won no one in the process.
Atleast back yourself up.
I have a website, now you can write eight paragraphs.

posted October 31, 2012 08:29 PM            

Anyway, I have KRS's book and picked up Phaldeepika book( for the low price of $20).
There's info on vedic/jyotish. Go buy a book like you would western. :P

posted October 31, 2012 09:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Or even farther, do you know, Hindu Astrology came first. As the first astrology in existence, Western has additional planets, improvisations and came at a later date. You can consult your former source Wikipedia for that

Glaringly or not, you still wrote two paragraphs proving nothing, with a bitter attitude and have won no one in the process.
Atleast back yourself up.
I have a website, now you can write eight paragraphs.

Yes Really.

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You really think this is a contest or a debate? It's my opinion and frankly I'm not required to agree with you just because you're emotionally invested in one particular form of astrology. Period. I stand by what I said - in my firsthand experience with Vedic (and there's been many of them, I tried like mad to give it a fair shot), it just doesn't hold up to inspection - and I'm not talking about what some random website says is true, I'm talking about, when you actually use the method and compare it to real people, does it accurately describe them. And the answer, for me at least, is that it never does.

And really in retrospect, the age of any particular astrological method is irrelevant, because old doesn't necessarily mean accurate. Hundreds of years ago people had theories about all sorts of things that have been proven false in the times since then. Hindus may have believed one thing back then, that's them. If in this day and age it doesn't pan out in terms of accuracy, then I'm not obligated to accept it as truth, and I don't.

posted October 31, 2012 10:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:

Wow, no no no. Don't you turn this on me, making it seem like Its a "debate", since I'm WA libra sun/merc/venus. Hahah. XD

Actually....
I am invested, as are you. We're both wasting our time, as we hold strongly our beliefs, so lets end this.
If I ever go back, and if you come forward, atleast we can agree, to have disagreed.
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I'm gonna get that book. xD lol Yay!

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What strong beliefs? You're projecting. I said I personally don't believe in it. I didn't go on an anti-Vedic crusade. It was you who decided you wanted to fly off the handle because I didn't give the answer you wanted to hear.

posted October 31, 2012 11:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonfish:
I agree that Vedic is great for Predictions and Western for Psychology/Personality.

I'm a triple water, but in vedic I'd have triple air. Frankly being as emotional and wishy washy as I am there's no way I could be a Aquarius moon and asc. Plus after researching both there are more things I can relate to with Western than Vedic. Just my opinion. Like I said Vedic seems to be accurate with predicting the future

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