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CRCRINCON
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posted October 02, 2012 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CRCRINCON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
They say Composite Sun in 6th sux. I see that Crcrincon has it too. It's supposed to make marriage a drudgery and a lot of work, and one person is supposed to serve the other and get oppressed blah blah blah

Well, I'm here to prove them wrong. Crcrincon seems to have a great marriage too.

Well, not to get too personal, but if you wanna smack talk my marriage, then show me you have a successful marriage yourself... rofl... the last two astrologers that smack talked me were divorced... roflmao


lol! Love your post. Yup! We are happily married. BUT, I live with Lupus and I have to admit that at times he has been my caretaker. And at times we tend to get bogged down by the mundane if we don't work hard at making time for play. We do both have Venus in Leo and we light up eachother's 5th house so we do have fun. But the other thing I want to say personally about the 6th house is that I find that most marriages are about the mundane no? I mean bills, cooking, cleaning, fixing, organizing, working...so if you can do those things together and enjoy yourself then well then that helps out a marriage! At least it does in our case.

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posted October 02, 2012 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ If nobody cooks and does the dishes, would there even be a wonderful meal? People think stuff gets magically thrown on their laps and they live in dating fantasy land.

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
^^^ If nobody cooks and does the dishes, would there even be a wonderful meal? People think stuff gets magically thrown on their laps and they live in dating fantasy land.

That is exactly why a Sun in 6th house in composite is not always bad news. Besides the romance you need to be able to share your lives on a daily basis. And what better house than the 6th for that?

Besides I think you have Virgo-DSC,right? You might have a fondness for the practicality of the 6th house anyway.

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posted October 02, 2012 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CRCRINCON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
^^^ If nobody cooks and does the dishes, would there even be a wonderful meal? People think stuff gets magically thrown on their laps and they live in dating fantasy land.

lol! Very True!

And as a side note, he and I cook quite well together too!

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posted October 02, 2012 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CRCRINCON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
That is exactly why a Sun in 6th house in composite is not always bad news. Besides the romance you need to be able to share your lives on a daily basis. And what better house than the 6th for that?

Besides I think you have Virgo-DSC,right? You might have a fondness for the practicality of the 6th house anyway.



I just started a seperate post on this...add to the dialogue please if you'd like ;-D

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posted October 02, 2012 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
You what would have helped the data gathering is if we had people who were married at least 10 years if not more. I mean, not to sound like a downer but lots of people rush into marriage only to break it off. I think RAS mentioned that Kim Kardashian and Kris had a love stellium but how long was the marriage? A whopping 70 days

It's not to say they might not get back together later, but it's highly unlikely with the flow of people into their lives.

Anyway, I was just thinking that while gathering data when I look at someone's chart, who say has been married only 6 months....it's beautiful to study but it's not practical to add to the data or aspect gathering. There is no proven long term effect there... yet.

Anyway, I think from now on, I'll compare charts of people who have been together for at least 10 years in marriage. That should be significant. Maybe it should be 20 years? What do you guys think?


I think that's why it's helpful when people say how long the marriage has been. But still, I think it would be nice to see what aspects might lead to the marriage to begin with. I have had love stelliums that didn't last. And some that never really became anything serious at all. Life-long marriages have to start somewhere.

It would be interesting to look at composites of divorced couples as well. But that's a whole different animal.

I'm happy if anyone posts their composites with their husband or wife on this thread, even if they are newlyweds.

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posted October 02, 2012 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay.

I will post the composites of 4 couples, ranging in duration from almost 10 years to almost 25 years. One of the couples divorced (my parents). I'll make them the first chart:

My parents: Married for 17 years. ***Please note that birth times are sketchy at best so look to aspects, not houses***


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posted October 02, 2012 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Next couple is my Mother and Stepfather. She left my father for this man. Very intense relationship and super volatile over many years. There was some infidelity but they ended up staying together and these days are much more mellow (which is another reason to look at progressed charts imo) They have been married for almost 25 years. ***Please note that again, birth times are not exact, so disregard house position*****



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posted October 02, 2012 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Next couple is my father and stepmother. They have been married for 13 years now. There is a HUGE age gap between them (24 years!!) but that's never really been much of an issue, except for other people. They make a good team and although they have the occasional issue, I think they are still really in love. ***Again, please note that birth times are not exact****


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posted October 02, 2012 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope, no love stellium here. Been married for 10 years (10 years this December). We have 3 kids. Ages 9, 6, and 1.5

This is our synastry chart. We are friendly to each other but in my opinion, not in any way shape or form, compatible.

Im on the inside.

Our Composite:


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Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc

And yes, I'm a guy!

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posted October 02, 2012 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Next couple have been married almost 10 years and have a whack of kids as well. They are from very different cultural backgrounds. As far as I know they are still very much in love. I can say that they definitely work well as a team. ****These birth times are accurate**** They have a super duper love stellium.


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posted October 02, 2012 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, last one to make it five. This last couple has been married for (I think) 35 years. They truly cannot stand one another, sleep in separate beds, argue constantly and yet they stay married. ***The birth times, again, are sketchy. It's very hard with the older generation (I find) to get accurate birth times so ignore house position and focus on aspects****


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posted October 02, 2012 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
got gemini - that is a love stellium! venus conjunct sun with sun conjunct mercury. won't you post the aspect grid, pretty please?

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posted October 02, 2012 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
got gemini - that is a love stellium! venus conjunct sun with sun conjunct mercury. won't you post the aspect grid, pretty please?

Sure! Composite:

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Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc

And yes, I'm a guy!

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posted October 02, 2012 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She means the aspect grid for the composite. That's mainly what we're looking at in the thread. If it's not too much of a hassle. Thanks

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posted October 02, 2012 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
25 years post-marriage should be the minimum standard. I dunno. I've not heard very many marriages past 25 years that fall apart.

My grandparents did. It was a good thing, though.

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posted October 02, 2012 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any comments on the charts I posted? I have been wondering about what creates the long lasting relationships when there are no love stelliums (in a couple of them).

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posted October 02, 2012 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a 36 year marriage between My grandparents.

They were separated since 2010.

They are in the process of divorce.
Filled with ALOT of physical, mental, and verbal abuse and disagreements and it took a toll on our household. Even after, grandma is still dependent upon him. Birth times are NOT accurate.

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posted October 03, 2012 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
Here is a 36 year marriage between My grandparents.

They were separated since 2010.

They are in the process of divorce.
Filled with ALOT of physical, mental, and verbal abuse and disagreements and it took a toll on our household. Even after, grandma is still dependent upon him. Birth times are NOT accurate.


Ah, gosh that's sad, especially after all those years.

I checked the chart with the list and one thing that others have is mercury aspecting asc. So far all of them have. But maybe it's the uranus affecting the stellium?

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posted October 03, 2012 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Ah, gosh that's sad, especially after all those years.

I checked the chart with the list and one thing that others have is mercury aspecting asc. So far all of them have. But maybe it's the uranus affecting the stellium?


Yeah :/

I thought it was that too, although Uranus only makes a direct aspect to the Sun but that can mean erratic energy overall and rebelling against tradition and each other maybe.

I do think it is Pluto conjunct SN/Opposed NN, repeating the experience of battling each other, control, and abuse. Or maybe not.

But just to add, it wasn't always sad, they were actually middle school sweethearts. They had never really dated other people seriously and they seemed happy until Gdad joined the Navy and each developed serious health issues and all.

By the way, awesome job on compiling the list.

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posted October 03, 2012 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can see in my signature in the past readings link that I said composites with a love stellium afflicted by THREE outer planets can easily lead to physical and emotional abuse. This one has comp moon square venus and sun inconjunct pluto so it's easy to see why they would be drawn to one another despite the ultra afflicted love stellium. It doesn't seem much of a problem when you have only two of the outer planets afflicting it. Looks like it only happens with three (or more).

About the Got Gemini's composite...the reason why you guys feel incompatible is bc whenever composite mars negative aspect pluto OR saturn is present, it basically ruins the compatibility. It is really bad, and can lead to abuse.
But yes, that is a love stellium, and that is why you were drawn in the beginning. A uranus affliction is nothing major, as long as you've got some pluto going on, check peachbeigeblue's composite.....but if you have either of those two afflicions to composite mars you can basically consider urself screwed.

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posted October 03, 2012 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorcha, I am not home right now. I am definitely learning about this thanks to RAS and our off LL conversations about compatability, but she is would have a lot more insight on the specifics of the chart.

I am trying to take what she has taught me about the love stellium, my own personal experiences with it, and observe these charts to find out what makes a love stellium long lasting. Or a non love stellium marriage long lasting.

At a glance - I think it's interesting that the charts of which are currently are married have composite suns in feminine sun signs. Maybe I sound like a broken record but I personally can tell the difference when it's feminine vs masculine composite sun! I suspect there is something to this. The majority are in earth and water for the long lasting marriages.

My hope is that we collect enough of these charts to find a pattern to the love stellium or non love stellium composite chart marriages

I haven't gotten a chance to reevaluate what might be the common theme in all charts posted yet. I am going to come up with some system with what info we gather and give percentages. It just might take a while

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posted October 03, 2012 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Example: Violence is clearly depicted in this composite with the sun opposite mars and square three outer planets, as well as mars squaring the three outer planets.

C. venus conjunct moon and pluto in synastry is what brought them together

Chris Brown and Rihanna's composite


In their synastry. From grupovenus:

Chris's Sun opposition Rihanna's Pluto orb 2° 34'

There is a powerful, inner bond that has drawn you to each other. You draw out each other's inner feelings, goals, and ambitions, and it seems that any encounter between the two of you becomes a deep, heart-to-heart encounter; this is not a light, frivolous, or superficial relationship! You are fascinated and intrigued by each other, and there is a compelling quality to your interactions.

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posted October 03, 2012 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sorcha:
Okay, last one to make it five. This last couple has been married for (I think) 35 years. They truly cannot stand one another, sleep in separate beds, argue constantly and yet they stay married. ***The birth times, again, are sketchy. It's very hard with the older generation (I find) to get accurate birth times so ignore house position and focus on aspects****



You know I'm beginning to think that even if the chart looks good if a couple has harsh mars aspects things certainly go down hill.

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posted October 03, 2012 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:

At a glance - I think it's interesting that the charts of which are currently are married have composite suns in feminine sun signs. Maybe I sound like a broken record but I personally can tell the difference when it's feminine vs masculine composite sun! I suspect there is something to this. The majority are in earth and water for the long lasting marriages.


I think it might be more of a moon in cancer that leads to long term or caring relationships. So maybe it's the moon in a feminine sign that might be more accurate.

Hmm...actually now it seems that the luminaries are in a water sign. That seems more consistent.

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