posted October 03, 2012 01:09 PM            

Thank you!

What about a juno/venus/uranus stellium? Love stellium or not? Its trined by jupiter and sextile psyche..

posted October 03, 2012 03:01 PM            

Either way the love stellium conjunct neptune is fabulous. Mars squaring it can cause a bit of friction here and there but i have just seen it make people hyper and talkative together, it's not malicious.

posted October 03, 2012 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
Sorcha, I am not home right now. I am definitely learning about this thanks to RAS and our off LL conversations about compatability, but she is would have a lot more insight on the specifics of the chart.

I am trying to take what she has taught me about the love stellium, my own personal experiences with it, and observe these charts to find out what makes a love stellium long lasting. Or a non love stellium marriage long lasting.

At a glance - I think it's interesting that the charts of which are currently are married have composite suns in feminine sun signs. Maybe I sound like a broken record but I personally can tell the difference when it's feminine vs masculine composite sun! I suspect there is something to this. The majority are in earth and water for the long lasting marriages.

My hope is that we collect enough of these charts to find a pattern to the love stellium or non love stellium composite chart marriages

I haven't gotten a chance to reevaluate what might be the common theme in all charts posted yet. I am going to come up with some system with what info we gather and give percentages. It just might take a while

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posted October 05, 2012 03:54 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Is Venus aspecting pluto?

Either way the love stellium conjunct neptune is fabulous. Mars squaring it can cause a bit of friction here and there but i have just seen it make people hyper and talkative together, it's not malicious.

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posted October 05, 2012 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
You know I'm beginning to think that even if the chart looks good if a couple has harsh mars aspects things certainly go down hill.

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Yeah I think things began to go downhill a long time ago for them but they stuck it out for reasons unknown. Sometimes I wonder if it's karma keeping them together.

It's another reason why I wonder about longevity in comp charts versus happiness. i think that trying to find out what makes for a long relationship doesn't always mean a happy one.

The other thing I have been considering for some time now with all relationship charts is the fact that the way people approach marriage (and relationships) these days is so different from 50 years ago. Or even 25 years ago. Fewer people are getting or staying married so I think that the happiness factor (love stellium with no harsh aspects from Pluto, Mars or Saturn) plus the longevity factor together make for what most people would term a successful relationship.

posted October 05, 2012 04:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
Absolutely I'd be interested to see what you think. Each of the relationships (except the last conposite I put up) were people with Uranian-type marriages. Unconventional either due to age differences, culture or circumstance.

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only the first had a love stellium. the second one had that moon-pluto with sun conjunct mercury that RAS had mentioned if i'm not mistaken.

the second one has moon sq uranus which could mean instability but personally i think moon sq saturn is worse. it's also pretty wide and i'm not sure but if the moons were later than you thought - could possibly not be an aspect at all.

the third one has moon sq uranus too. i really don't think this is bad as it's made out to be! my parents' have it too. perhaps this could just be the "unconventional" - I know on astro-click partner it's made to seem pretty hopeless. this chart could also be a wide love stellium with sun widely conjunct mercury and mercury aspecting venus.

With the square of composite Moon and Uranus, this relationship is not likely to be a stable, enduring, long- term one, at least as far as love is concerned. This is an aspect of emotional change and instability. A love affair with this aspect may flare up suddenly and then cool off with equal suddenness.
Nevertheless, considerable good may come from such a relationship, as long as you try only to find what it can offer rather than how long it can last. It will challenge your basic patterns of thinking on an emotional level. If you give it a chance, this relationship will expand your consciousness.
If you are at a stage of your life and consciousness when you are seeking to build a stable and reliable relationship with someone, this is not a very favorable aspect. But if you are open to any experience that a relationship can offer, this will be a creative learning experience, although a bit crazy at times.
interactive astro-click partner on astro.com

wow that fourth chart with all the stellium and accurate birthtimes will be a good contribution to this thread. all of these are.

id count the fifth one as a love stellium. sun conjunct mercury with mercury widely opposing venus

i think it's interesting that a large percentage of these charts have feminine signs. i want to try to compile these this weekend to see what stands out so far.

thanks for posting all those charts, sorcha!

posted October 05, 2012 04:22 PM            

so far there are 15 composite charts (feel free to double check me)

5 of these have grand trines. More than half of them (8) have t squares within the charts (some multiple t squares)

posted November 01, 2012 10:13 PM            

...but I'll add it here as well, as the topic seems to be of perpetual interest around here, and data is often sought on long-lasting, happy couples.

...Looks like NO so-called "love stellium."

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Friends of mine, Sally and Andy, celebrated their 50th anniversary by going to Disney World last fall. Married since she was 19, he 21. (Hmm... I don't think she was pregnant when they married, but not sure. I'll have to ask her.)

I see them every weekend, at a flea market stand that they sell stuff at. Greet each other with a kiss, chat with each other with interest, laugh together, respect each other. I don't think there was any infidelity, judging by how they interact. Sally and I do talk about relationships. She is the first to say that it takes "work."

Andy jokes when he is spending time away from their booth: "I'd better get back or I won't be getting any supper tonight."

Also, he told a story of when they were a younger couple, attending a social event with their children. Andy was tired of being there, had drank a lot and went to sit in the car for most of the evening. ...When they got home, he passed out on the floor in the hallway. Sally was so ticked off that she walked right across his back, in her high-heeled shoes. ...I think Andy kind of likes being kept in line by her.

(For those interested in asteroids, regarding Sally's view that relationships are "work" I just noticed that in synastry, they have CHIRON conj JUNO (<1); HERA conj NNode (<2); ...and JUNO tri ZEUS (<1) -- That is their closest so-called "soul-mate" asteroid pair, if we include JUNO/HERA - JUPITER/ZEUS in such a list.

...Juno/Hera - and of course Saturn - makes me think of the WORK part of relationships. And it's her JUNO exactly trine his ZEUS, which is exactly opposite his MARS. And her JUNO is exactly opposite her SATURN! ...Like I said--he enjoys being kept in line...and I think she enjoys keeping him "in line!"!

Hmm... Also, her HERA is at Antiscion degree of his ZEUS (just over 1 degree). And ZEUS opp HERA (<1)in composite! Oy... her JUNO opp his JUPITER in Heliocentric (<1), and her ZEUS opp his JUNO (<2)!)

Birth times are unknown. Both born in US, Eastern Time zone.. Charts below are for 12:00 PM birth times.

EDIT: Sally: Eastchester, NY. Andy: Scranton, PA.

posted November 02, 2012 01:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Very interesting thread. I liked the stuff about 6th house in the composite, I never considered that (that marriage is ultimately about the mundane so this placement is fundamentally compatible with marriage.)

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That's right girlfriend. If nobody's washing the sheets and pillowcases and making the bed, there won't be very many episodes of hot passionate sex. The dog needs to be walked and it's poop needs to be picked up, or the dog will go pee pee on bed, and once again the hot passionate sex won't occur. Too many people think marriage is about that gazing into the starry eyes sh1t. It's about cleaning the toilet bowl and replacing the bathroom tissue roll, or there won't be much whoopie tonight!! And that's until the first kid arrives, and that is called the game changer!! :P

I know one thing for sure. A woman who spends her life catering to a chauvinist pig of a man who doesn't do sh1t around the house and complains about everything, like dinner being late or cold, ain't about to change into that Victoria's Secret outfit and hit the sheets with that jacka$$. Period.

Smart men have that figured out, and also see the connection between a happy wife, a happy home life and very happy loins.

posted November 02, 2012 06:48 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:

Also, mars conjunct this stellium is also very favorable as it gives passion, and so is pluto and the moon. Another astrologer told me that the best indication of soulmates is that all the planets are clustered together and conjunct each other in the composite and that there also exists a tight sun-mercury-venus stellium in this cluster. It must be true because my best friend told me she thinks she found her soulmate in her boyfriend, and she knew from the first day they met and when I checked their composite they did indeed have that tight stellium and all planets clustered together. Also, I saw another composite between two guy friends who think the other is awesome but never said anything about soulmates lol. They had MOST (not all) of their planets clustered together in the composite, but no Sun-mercury-venus stellium, in fact, those three planets were not conjunct at all.

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Looks like the cluster is common to most of these composite charts, with or without the love stellium.

I'm having trouble editing the personal info out of my chart, photobucket is not cooperating today.

But I've been with my husband 14 years (married 13+ years) and we have, in our 4H:
Venus, sun, NN, Mercury, Neptune.

^Not all in the same sign, though.

We also have Mars exactly conjunct Juno, square sun-Venus. I think a big part of the reason we're still together is the physical attraction...but sometimes that gets in the way of conflict resolution ("Why talk out our problems, let's just kiss and make up.") Lots of tension at times.

posted November 02, 2012 07:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I think a big part of the reason we're still together is the physical attraction...but sometimes that gets in the way of conflict resolution ("Why talk out our problems, let's just kiss and make up.") Lots of tension at times.

I don't know if this marriage will last forever. We have our ups and downs.

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Hang in there, Faith. The rollercoaster is sometimes more enrichening than the ferris wheel.

posted November 02, 2012 09:31 AM            

My husband and I have Venus/Sun conj in the 4th, but our Merc's hanging out in the 3rd.

posted November 02, 2012 09:43 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I know one thing for sure. A woman who spends her life catering to a chauvinist pig of a man who doesn't do sh1t around the house and complains about everything, like dinner being late or cold, ain't about to change into that Victoria's Secret outfit and hit the sheets with that jacka$$. Period.

Smart men have that figured out, and also see the connection between a happy wife, a happy home life and very happy loins.

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I can say that there's nothing sexier than my husband helping with the kiddos' homework or doing the dishes

And as he says, "Happy wife, happy life."

posted November 02, 2012 10:45 AM            

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Originally posted by mockingbird:
I can say that there's nothing sexier than my husband helping with the kiddos' homework or doing the dishes

And as he says, "Happy wife, happy life."

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My issue is that I'm far too domineering in the kitchen. It's my domain. So I cook and clean almost all the time. She bakes really well though

posted November 03, 2012 03:38 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Hang in there, Faith. The rollercoaster is sometimes more enrichening than the ferris wheel.

You can talk to me at anytime. I'm always around for you.

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Thank you, Ian. I would probably just b*tch about everything and annoy you, when trouble hits, and then confuse you when I act like everything's fine, when the trouble clears.

You know...marriage. *eye roll*

But I appreciate your offer.

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:

About the Got Gemini's composite...the reason why you guys feel incompatible is bc whenever composite mars negative aspect pluto OR saturn is present, it basically ruins the compatibility. It is really bad, and can lead to abuse.
But yes, that is a love stellium, and that is why you were drawn in the beginning. A uranus affliction is nothing major, as long as you've got some pluto going on, check peachbeigeblue's composite.....but if you have either of those two afflicions to composite mars you can basically consider urself screwed.

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I do not believe this. No single aspect is capable of ruining a composite.

posted March 04, 2019 07:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck:
I do not believe this. No single aspect is capable of ruining a composite.

Great thread btw.

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