posted October 11, 2012 02:05 AM            

"PHASE 170 (VIRGO 20°): A CARAVAN OF CARS HEADED TO THE WEST COAST.

KEYNOTE: The need of cooperative effort in reaching any "New World" of experience.

It is difficult to know, from the original formulation of the clairvoyant's vision, the type of caravan of cars that was visualized; what seems to be clearly implied is a process in which a group of persons are journeying together — thus linking their consciousnesses and energies (the "car" symbol) — in order to safely reach the goal of destiny. Here there is no longer any sense of competition, but an ordered and structured endeavor.

posted October 11, 2012 04:53 AM              

"PHASE 287 (CAPRICORN 17°): A REPRESSED WOMAN FINDS A PSYCHOLOGICAL RELEASE IN NUDISM.

KEYNOTE: The escape from bondage to social inhibitions and a reliance upon the wisdom of the body.

Under the pressure of religions that have created a sharp and unwholesome division between soul and body, society has produced strict codes of values regarding the play of natural instincts, and has glorified them under the name of "decency" and "modesty." The growing trend toward nudism — which of course has nothing to do with the "pornographic" display of one's body — is a welcome protest against the depressing and neurosis-generating puritanism of the past. Men and women are demanding a psychologically as well as physically healthful freedom of the body as a means of overcoming the hypocrisy and constrictions of social behavior.

In this second stage symbol we see how our society has been able to repress and distort the natural activity of the human body and its sensitivity to the elements. Thus a contrast is established between healthy youth at play and the neurotic subservience to a socio-religious tradition. The symbol is a call for RELEASE FROM INHIBITIONS."

posted October 11, 2012 09:02 AM            

edit;

Sabian for T. Mars tomorrow (and my saturn release point);

4-5 Sag An old owl sits alone on the branch of a large tree

Hm.. sounds pretty peaceful and I can use that.

posted October 11, 2012 10:21 AM            

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Originally posted by violet7887:
what do you make of yours sand?

a man working through life for enternal improvement? or a man carrying a load for improvement around him?

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idk but i do connect with a load of debts after an ambitious buying spree.

posted October 11, 2012 03:39 PM            

All meaningless loyalties....? Hm. That one makes me wonder. Any thoughts?

I lost my link to the sabian interpretations. Anyone have a link for Aqua 3 they could share?

posted October 11, 2012 03:49 PM            

PHASE 303 (AQUARIUS 3°): A DESERTER FROM THE NAVY.

KEYNOTE: The individual's self-realization through a crucial repudiation of a collective status which has become unbearable.

This symbol recalls the one for Scorpio 21°, but the fact that actual "desertion" is emphasized and reference is made to "the Navy" suggests that the crisis symbolized here is one implying an irrevocable change of status. Man refuses to accept the type of cultural patterns derived from his society's specific approach to local circumstances and to the universe as a whole, and in another sense, from its particular relationship to the all-human collective Unconscious. (The Navy refers to the ocean, symbol of primordial and unconscious evolutionary forces.) He not only refuses to obey orders, he deliberately turns his back on his collective social status; he becomes an outcast, and through this decision he may definitely individualize his consciousness.

This is the third stage of the sixty-first five-fold sequence. Something with collective social value is being potentially destroyed, but nature is not the destroyer (as in the preceding symbol). Man, the individual, steps out of his bondage to collective patterns and ideals. He may thus "find himself' by means of a sharp renunciation of his social birthright, i.e. by a crucial process of DESOCIALIZATION.

posted October 12, 2012 04:52 PM            

Saturn in Scorpio: You do not have to give sex, extra money or extra effort just because others do not understand your comfort zones. Do not imprison yourself through sex or sexual desire. It is perfectly ok to feel comfortable, enjoy creature comforts and be an owner of your own stuff. It is ok to dream of owning your own property, it is ok to relax in life than always worry about your performance. Do not worry about judgment of under-performance, most of the negative self talk is only in your head. Learn to be comfortable about being you.

Saturn in Sagittarius: Neglecting facts, silence and excessive specialization will sap your life force. Read, read and read some more. Speak about what you read to as many friends as you can. Boredom is not a virtue, and it is ok to multitask. Sometimes, the fun is in the journey than in always finding out a core philosophy. It would be truly refreshing to master a musical instrument and play a variety of tunes with it. Variety is truly the spice of your life.

Saturn in Capricorn: Know that your family has positive feelings for you. Emotional detachment from parents or children is not some great virtue, you cannot be happy by building some huge empire whilst neglecting your family life. Structure Is not everything, status is not everything. Try to feel the love of an infant, try to enjoy a good dose of humor and laughter. It is not ok to risk all your finances in business. Eat well and enjoy the beach every once in a while. To the guys, fight for your love, it is ok to man up for her.

Saturn in Aquarius: It is not worth it to shy away from the camera for too long. If you have worked hard, there is no sin in attracting attention. It is legal and smart to have patents in your name. Roentgen died penniless because he did not patent X-Rays and gave away tat knowledge for free to humanity. Looking good and dressing well can definitely help. Strengthen your heart and spine [physically and philosophically]. People will actually appreciate your talks if you put some sizzle in them.

Saturn in Pisces: Do no waste your money on every psychic medium you find. There is something called cold reading, study it so that you do not fall prey to charlatans. Fear is a mind killer and 90% of ghost sightings or UFO Sightings do have a rational explanation.
Paying attention to the small print will help you immensely. You cannot become a glamor actor overnight so try to avoid fantasizing about a TV Career or Hollywood break through by chance. It needs hard work and consistent effort. Neglect of hard work will only lead to misery and exploitation. Effort is your best friend. Honesty is your second best friend.

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Some more analysis is in the pipeline....

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posted October 12, 2012 04:56 PM            

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You cannot become a glamor actor overnight so try to avoid fantasizing about a TV Career or Hollywood break through by chance. It needs hard work and consistent effort. Neglect of hard work will only lead to misery and exploitation. Effort is your best friend. Honesty is your second best friend.

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posted October 12, 2012 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:

Saturn in Sagittarius: Neglecting facts, silence and excessive specialization will sap your life force. Read, read and read some more. Speak about what you read to as many friends as you can. Boredom is not a virtue, and it is ok to multitask. Sometimes, the fun is in the journey than in always finding out a core philosophy. It would be truly refreshing to master a musical instrument and play a variety of tunes with it. Variety is truly the spice of your life.

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Some more analysis is in the pipeline....

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I couldnt agree more.All i can know about all i want answers to is really my freedom. Also, there is a music insturment i have wanted to learn and master so badly since my early teens, i had such a pull towards it... but never got to doing it.

Whats interesting is that I can also really relate to Saturn in Libra discription. I have really felt that was my answer the whole time Saturn was over my ASC recently. The fact that i had to give myself time and learn to say no to others was standing in my way.

posted October 12, 2012 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:

Saturn in Aquarius: It is not worth it to shy away from the camera for too long. If you have worked hard, there is no sin in attracting attention. It is legal and smart to have patents in your name. Roentgen died penniless because he did not patent X-Rays and gave away tat knowledge for free to humanity. Looking good and dressing well can definitely help. Strengthen your heart and spine [physically and philosophically]. People will actually appreciate your talks if you put some sizzle in them.

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I have a love-hate relationship with attention. When I do end up getting it, I always end up ******* everyone off and then they hate me. Then return to liking me, then hating me and so on... but for the most part I have no idea how to get attention, and am sick of changing myself to appeal to people. I have accepted myself for the most part, and if people hate me, what else can I do?

posted October 13, 2012 01:41 AM            

May I ask a question about Saturn in Scorpio?

If in a natal, 7 planets are in water, and all make soft aspects to Saturn in Scorpio, will such an individual find it easier to find freedom in the opposite sign of Taurus, given that there's already so much "grounding" present in the chart?

Thank you.

posted October 13, 2012 10:06 AM            

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Originally posted by iQ:

Saturn in Pisces: Do no waste your money on every psychic medium you find. There is something called cold reading, study it so that you do not fall prey to charlatans. Fear is a mind killer and 90% of ghost sightings or UFO Sightings do have a rational explanation.
Paying attention to the small print will help you immensely. You cannot become a glamor actor overnight so try to avoid fantasizing about a TV Career or Hollywood break through by chance. It needs hard work and consistent effort. Neglect of hard work will only lead to misery and exploitation. Effort is your best friend. Honesty is your second best friend.

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Some more analysis is in the pipeline....

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hmmm...

i didnt really connect to the interpretation as i never expected things to "just happen" and i knew i had to work for them...or maybe im missing something...

posted October 13, 2012 12:51 PM            

KEYNOTE: The need to develop the inner security which will enable us to meet unexpected crises.

An interesting connection can be made between the symbols for Taurus 1° and 2° — "A clear mountain stream" and "An electrical storm" — and those for Aquarius 1° and 2°, two hundred and seventy degrees apart (a "waning" square, in terms of a cycle of relationship such as the lunation cycle). In the first case we deal with energies or activities that can be related to the natural development of the individual. But here we are primarily concerned with social, collective processes and the function of the individual within them. The symbol itself — "An unexpected thunderstorm" — could be given a very positive meaning in an arid environment, but the emphasis on "unexpected" tends to accent the sudden and dangerous character of the event. Such a thunderstorm in a region of dry hills can cause a devastating flood. At any rate, it refers to an event for which one is not prepared — a menace to men's works.

Seen as a second stage symbol — thus in contrast to the preceding one — this scene stresses the fact that nature may reduce to impermanence the seemingly most permanent endeavors and constructive activities of men. Under a downpour of rain, adobe brick can return to mud. All human institutions and their achievements can be washed away, even in their day of great glory. "Dust you were, dust you must become." This is NATURE'S CHALLENGE.

***I relate a bit to this, but its not completely where my heart is****

***I guess im a 3 because i completely relate to this, this is me and my life 100%, i have a Scorpio@21 N.Node to!*****

PHASE 303 (AQUARIUS 3°): A DESERTER FROM THE NAVY.

KEYNOTE: The individual's self-realization through a crucial repudiation of a collective status which has become unbearable.

This symbol recalls the one for Scorpio 21°, but the fact that actual "desertion" is emphasized and reference is made to "the Navy" suggests that the crisis symbolized here is one implying an irrevocable change of status. Man refuses to accept the type of cultural patterns derived from his society's specific approach to local circumstances and to the universe as a whole, and in another sense, from its particular relationship to the all-human collective Unconscious. (The Navy refers to the ocean, symbol of primordial and unconscious evolutionary forces.) He not only refuses to obey orders, he deliberately turns his back on his collective social status; he becomes an outcast, and through this decision he may definitely individualize his consciousness.

posted October 13, 2012 12:55 PM            

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^^ Oh and here's the link--
. http://mindfire.ca/The%20Sabian%20Symbols/An%20Astrological%20Mandala%20-%20 %20Aquarius%201-15.htm

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posted October 13, 2012 08:27 PM            

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Saturn in Capricorn: Know that your family has positive feelings for you. Emotional detachment from parents or children is not some great virtue, you cannot be happy by building some huge empire whilst neglecting your family life. Structure Is not everything, status is not everything. Try to feel the love of an infant, try to enjoy a good dose of humor and laughter. It is not ok to risk all your finances in business. Eat well and enjoy the beach every once in a while. To the guys, fight for your love, it is ok to man up for her.
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posted October 13, 2012 09:36 PM            

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If in a natal, 7 planets are in water, and all make soft aspects to Saturn in Scorpio, will such an individual find it easier to find freedom in the opposite sign of Taurus, given that there's already so much "grounding" present in the chart?
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It would be necessary to connect to Taurus Energy in this case, and to Virgo Energy for additional Earth Element practicality. So much water and Saturn in Scorpio can create excessive emotions followed by self-blame for the feelings. Psychic power would be tremendous but without some Virgo critical reasoning, intelligently filtering the inputs would become impossible.

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Yes, iQ, this makes sense as internally, emotional sensitivity is high but is outwardly kept in check by the Saturn contacts.

Psychic power is also amazingly high. However intelligence, reasoning, and critical faculties are also high, maybe because of Pluto trine Mercury (1 deg). Deeply penetrating and focused mind, imo.

But as you said, can benefit from Taurus strengths. The self blame you mentioned is also present, along with a tremendously strong sense of responsibility toward others. Can sacrifice a great deal to help others. Ego is diluted because of Neptune contacts.

Thank you again.

posted October 13, 2012 09:38 PM            

You're welcome