posted October 14, 2012 02:49 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
hmmm...

i didnt really connect to the interpretation as i never expected things to "just happen" and i knew i had to work for them...or maybe im missing something...

also i found the opposite point of saturn is conjuncting my vertex :O what could that mean?

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I didn't connect with the interpretation either.

A few points: though I like readings, I have only paid for about 4 in 20yrs and will only randomly get other readings off people from time to time due to exchanges. I used to work for awhile as a reader and have been trained by a psalmist as well as an astrologer.

I am so suspicious of the possibility of cold reader, that if I suspect it, I might even play into the technique out of fun. I specifically ask people not to tell me anything when I give a reading, and I will generally try to avoid linking even obvious connections between what I have read an their responses.

I am not afraid of ghosts, I wake up to them in my mind and will verify their characteristics and what the msg/issues they raise with the people that are their family. I have also faced some very terrifying moments psychically/psychologically. I can read the 'alien' characteristics of some of the asteroids and yes, I agree there is often a rational explanation because I find their qualities in the myths once I access them on line.

Most definitely though, I do not ever pay attention to the small print, but somehow usually ride out the dramas of it and things aren't too bad. My Gemini Moon is a shocker for skimming things and missing bits, plus I have Mercury conjunct Uranus in Virgo.

I guess I have wondered as a teenager if I might become a celebrity, but I am not a glamour actor type. I have however always thought my life might be special in some way - but I am also quite conceited (despite my low self esteem, lol - thanks Saturn). I wouldn't be able to handle the routine of a TV/movie star and though I would like to dress like 50s glamour sometimes perhaps, I don't think I could ever really be bothered as I have a real hobo side to me that could have me living on some isolated beach in a shack.

I at times would like the sensation that I have achieved something of popular merit, and of course wouldn't say no if I was having money shoved at me as I have led a spartan existence - thanks again Saturn in 2nd.

I do work hard, and have always had to have something worthwhile to do as I feel like a vegetable if I'm spending too much time off with the fairies. I generally put in a good effort, and for the most part am overly honest. However true that about honesty, though might even be my best friend, and generally I suffer for being honest - but I wouldn't have it any other way.

posted October 15, 2012 11:46 AM              

But actually I find each title very telling. Your intuition is the best guide as to what it means.

posted October 15, 2012 08:08 PM            

Taurus 28: A woman pursued by mature romance

KEYNOTE: Man's capacity to rise in consciousness and feelings above biological limitations.

After having stated the youthful and the aged approach of the human individual to the use of what his culture has brought to him, the symbolism stresses man's capacity to rise above the limitations which both biological nature and the "normal" social pattern of behavior have tried to impose on him. As in many of the preceding symbols, a "woman" is pictured, because at this early stage of the cyclic process the individual consciousness still has a receptive or "feminine" polarity — as was indicated in the very first symbol of the entire cycle (Aries 1°).

Whenever this third stage of the twelfth sequence is brought to a person's consciousness, the indication is that he or she should freely open his or her mind to the possibility of always new REBEGINNINGS. Ideally, the new beginning should imply a more mature response to the new possibility of experience.

posted October 16, 2012 03:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
We have the same sabian Gabby! (Aqua 3) What do you make of it personally?

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He not only refuses to obey orders, he deliberately turns his back on his collective social status; he becomes an outcast, and through this decision he may definitely individualize his consciousness.

This is the third stage of the sixty-first five-fold sequence. Something with collective social value is being potentially destroyed, but nature is not the destroyer (as in the preceding symbol). Man, the individual, steps out of his bondage to collective patterns and ideals. He may thus "find himself' by means of a sharp renunciation of his social birthright, i.e. by a crucial process of DESOCIALIZATION.

I was raised in a socially accepted cult...i left them behind when i saw my children being treated the same as i was and didnt want them to feel the same pain, unworthy, and unimportant ways i felt. I lost my entire life, family and childhood...most won't acknowledge to me even if i was standing next to them in line at a store. My mom still speaks to me, but only if there is a purpose, not socially! LOL
I'm happier, healthier and finding a new path, blazing my own actually! So happy im not under their thumb anymore!!

posted October 17, 2012 03:28 AM            

Saturn is very prominent in my chart. I'm Cap rising, Saturn in the first in Aquarius, Saturn squaring my Moon and Jupiter, opposing Mars and trining my Sun and Mercury. Nice, isn't it (Saturn 28 55 Acquarius, Moon 1 Gemini and Sun 1 Scorpio)

While I've been coming to terms with him over the years, I'm still looking for a little escape from time to time. So your "freedom point" in Leo resonates very well with me.

E.g. I can work very hard on something, give all I have, and should I get recognition or even praise for the results, I shy away, saying - Oh, that was nothing, everyone else is better, and so on ...

Well, Leo energy is not completely foreign to me - I should better make use of my Leo mars (inconveniently opposed by Saturn)and shine a bit more

posted March 09, 2013 06:51 PM              

iQ said -
"The Key to True Freedom is thus to completely overcome all that is Saturn. And Astrologically, we will gain if we examine the opposite degree of our Saturn's position in the Natal Chart.

When we become the Opposite of Saturn, we will attract the wisdom, material, inspiration and motivation to become truly Free. To attain a Spiritual State wherein one can take full control of existence after death, to travel to any realm and incarnate as it pleases, without afflicted DNA and with full, memory recalls of all existences."

posted March 09, 2013 07:21 PM            

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5.Saturn in Leo:
The generation that is virtually robbed of fame and flashy success by its karmic debts. We must strive for out and out Humanitarian thinking. Become "water bearers" and bear good news, good tidings and celebrate happy events of life than sharing only gloom and doom. We must learn to accept great ideas of others in a humble manner, and forgive any personal pricks and taunts. Dissolving grudges, sincere forgiveness and being as friendly as possible to the worst critic, this will liberate this generation the fastest.

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That was an interesting take.

I can relate.....

Saturn in Leo is a tough one...

posted June 20, 2013 07:24 PM            

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The Key to True Freedom is thus to completely overcome all that is Saturn. And Astrologically, we will gain if we examine the opposite degree of our Saturn's position in the Natal Chart.

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Errr...SN and Chiron opposite my Saturn. No freedom for me

posted June 20, 2013 07:31 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I the idea of the 4th dimension. I want so badly to know what's there. What is it like? Who is waiting there?

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posted June 20, 2013 08:13 PM            

Exactly opposite my Virgo Saturn is...my PISCES SUN.

I'm not sure if that's w00t or weep worthy.

posted June 21, 2013 03:24 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
"The Time Entity"

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posted June 21, 2013 05:36 AM            

PHASE 146 (LEO 26°): AFTER THE HEAVY STORM, A RAINBOW.

KEYNOTE: Linking above and below, the Covenant with one's divine nature, promise of immortality.

In the Bible the rainbow is the sign of the Covenant established by God with Noah (the cyclic "Seed man") guaranteeing that no longer shall the destructive power of Spirit (the Shiva aspect of the Divine) be used to destroy life on earth. As we come to the third level of the scene of "Release," we find the man who has been able to weather the cathartic storm face-to-face with his divine Archetype; because he has been victorious, a link has been established with his divine Soul-being. Both the human and the divine partners should remain thus linked. H. P. Blavatsky's last words are said to have been: "Keep the Link unbroken" — the Link she forged With the Trans-Himalayan Brotherhood that had sent her into the darkness of nineteenth-century materialism for this purpose.

At the first stage of this thirtieth sequence, the symbol of the rainbow shows us the need to maintain a state of open communication between the Sky and the Earth within our total being — not for the sake of finding an ever-elusive "pot of gold" at the end of the rainbow, for this end is never to be reached, but in order to face the totality of our individual selfhood as it is projected in the many-hued dome of our sky-flung consciousness. After every successfully met crisis, the REVELATION OF WORTH comes to us, and with it comes the promise of success, if only we do our part.

^ last sentence makes so much sense..

Saturn in Aquarius: It is not worth it to shy away from the camera for too long. If you have worked hard, there is no sin in attracting attention. It is legal and smart to have patents in your name. Roentgen died penniless because he did not patent X-Rays and gave away tat knowledge for free to humanity. Looking good and dressing well can definitely help. Strengthen your heart and spine [physically and philosophically]. People will actually appreciate your talks if you put some sizzle in them.

^ so true also! it's like I don't feel worthy of attention so I hide away (literally!)

posted June 21, 2013 10:10 AM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Here's simple explanation on 4'th Dimension: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDaKzQNlMFw

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Thanks, I needed that! Hmm I like that idea. Having my own, personal 4 d entity always watching. This intrigues me !