posted April 20, 2013 09:14 AM            

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Originally posted by foxxyxo:
o yea how could i forget about those dreams!!!!!!! the guy whos sun, merc, saturn and venus in my 12th ive atleast dreamed about him 50 times....it is innnnsannnneeeeeee

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posted June 24, 2013 10:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Aeline:
I'm trying to separate what does it feel for the house person and what - for a planet person.

If you had your planets in someone's 12th house, could you briefly describe your feelings, not taking into account other aspects?

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My boyfriend's sun, venus and mercury falls in my 12th house. I feel very comfortable around him. Even though it's not very sexual I have let my guard down a few times ( I have venus square pluto , it sucks because I relate emotional weakness as losing control and I'd never want to do that in front of anyone)
Sometimes I am not very sure how much he loves me even though his venus in virgo keeps doing all these practical things to assure that.
It's an odd relationship.. almost sibling like familiarity even though we haven't been together that long. I read that deception could be likely, I wonder if the planet or house person deceives the other? I have mars in scorpio- I can be dodgy, but my Leo sun conjunct his makes me take this relationship as a duty. It's most definitely not love in the pop culture sense. It's something else.

posted June 24, 2013 12:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Aeline:
I'm trying to separate what does it feel for the house person and what - for a planet person.

If you had your planets in someone's 12th house, could you briefly describe your feelings, not taking into account other aspects?

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My boyfriend's sun, venus and mercury falls in my 12th house. I feel very comfortable around him. Even though it's not very sexual I have let my guard down a few times ( I have venus square pluto , it sucks because I relate emotional weakness as losing control and I'd never want to do that in front of anyone)
Sometimes I am not very sure how much he loves me even though his venus in virgo keeps doing all these practical things to assure that.
It's an odd relationship.. almost sibling like familiarity even though we haven't been together that long. I read that deception could be likely, I wonder if the planet or house person deceives the other? I have mars in scorpio- I can be dodgy, but my Leo sun conjunct his makes me take this relationship as a duty. It's most definitely not love in the pop culture sense. It's something else.

posted January 30, 2014 07:29 AM            

-The nature of our true relationship was always hidden. We had hooked up once when we first met, but never actually had sex, even to this day. Fast forward 2 years and we hooked up a few more times before I decided to take a break with my partner of 6 years. He two was grieving the failure of his on-and-off again relationship with his partner of 12 years.
-I suspected he was a recreational drug abuser when I met him. After meeting him, he became a full blown drug addict, including losing his job multiple times, ruining his bar license, losing his car, apartment, and even being hunted from drug dealers because of his large debt.
-He has been in and out of instutions for depression and drug addiction.
-He can read me pretty well, however, as the 12th house person, he didn't actually know anything about me, which he has recently confessed too. Maybe I hide it well? (ASC-Sag, Sun-Aqua, Moon-Aries)
-I can definitely relate to the trust issues. I ignored my instinct with him quite a few times.
-I've gained a lot of knowledge and even more confidence from this relationship. Learned more about astrology in the past 7 months, then the past 13 years I've been studiying it.
-I believe he too has learned a lot. After trying to dodge me for the past few months, he is now dedicating love songs to me, saying that I am his 'angel'. Let's say I did (legally) and said what was necessary to what I thought woul help him get to a better place. That and I was extremely angry! (Watch out for folks with an Aries Moon!)
-Lots of miscommunications between actions, words, and emotions.

Despite all of the craziness, and both of us seeing each others ugly sides, I still have much desire and compassion for the man. It's a scary feeling to have.

We have quite a few earth grand trines in our synastry chart (Mars, MC, Nodes, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Jupiter), and many close aspects involving the vertex, nodes, eros, valentine, and personal planets such as the Sun and Moon. I'd like to think that with the 8 year age gap, the many outer planets to my personal planet aspects has some influence. We apparently share the 'marriage' aspect Vertex conjunct his North Node.

I've been studying the charts of Johnny Cash and June Carter religiously!

posted June 14, 2016 06:20 PM            

I have Venus, Uranus and Vertex (6th house Libra) in this man's 12th House. His 12th House is packed with planets Mars, Pluto, Saturn, Eros.
I don't know about Uranus, but what I can tell you is that my Venus is totally smitten by this man. I can feel him. Feel his power, his pain. Like I can see his vulnerabilities and I actually empathize with them. I feel compassionate, and really just plain love him.
Sexually, I felt like a "geisha". I just wanted him to feel good, to touch his skin. But he hasn't made love to me and I was fine with that (and mind it, I usually feel that a man needs to take care of me, not the other way).
I felt a spiritual hint about his wounds from the past. And I was appalled about how much connection I felt...
I'm not sure how he feels. He's charmed. And scared...And I don't actually know how to get closer without scarim him off (and scare myself off because it's the first time I feel such a subcoscious connection. Am I getting crazy ?)

posted June 14, 2016 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
In my experience, the house person is more affected by the Neptune "fog" than the planet person.

As SS stated, the planet that falls in the 12th house has a hard time being expressed. That, I'm pretty sure of. I've had it happen to me a few times: their Venus in my 12th - they feel like they can't express their love/affection to me. Their Mars in my 12th - their sexuality is blocked, or they can't take action properly around me. Their Moon in my 12th - they can't show their vulnerability/deep emotions to me. And so on.
But that's mainly if the planet is afflicted! If it makes flowing aspects to the house person's planets, it is more easily expressed.

Now, when I'm the planet person, I usually like their 12th house. Like I can see their vulnerabilities and I actually empathize with them. I feel compassionate, and really just plain love them. Not necessarily in a romantic sense, but more in a.. spiritual sense. Like I can see their soul and I deeply accept it and love it. But, as I said, there are exceptions. Sometimes I can't stand them. I guess that depends on the overall synastry.

I've actually only just realized that as the planet person, I do feel something, too.. I used to think that only the house person was affected but that doesn't seem to be true.

House person doesn't see planet person clearly and can idealize them or make huge assumptions about them (sometimes negative). But the planet person seems to have the upper hand: they see house person more clearly and are more aware of the situation.

That's why the house person can sometimes end up being hurt: they didn't see it coming. They were too busy building castles in the sky, and the planet person happens to have their feet on the ground. Boom! Disillusion. Welcome to reality!

I do believe that it can work out wonderfully, too.

The house person can have recurrent dreams of the planet person, also. That's an interesting fact I've noticed.

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Doux I love your thoughts on this, I have to agree but at the same time I have to disagree. Why? I'll explain my situation with you.

I have my 6th ruler Neptune in Capricorn in the 4th house conjunct Person B's 12th house cusp. My sun & saturn falls into his 12th house. My Neptune isn't afflicted (I don't think it's widely square my moon 5 degrees) my sun isn't afflicted either it's widely square my moon 8 degrees. Anyways ....theyve got a scorpio stellium in the 9th house and there 12th ruler is Saturn in the 12th house in Capricorn that's the only 12th house planet they have along with there dejanira......HAHAHHAHA! I feel this man has NO empathy or isn't even aware of psychic ability he doesn't believe in telepathy or anything spiritual whatsoever he is against astrology psychic pheonomon.

I can see right through him and have telepathic dreams and strong telepathic thoughts and I exactly know when he becomes vulnerable. We have a strong 12th house conposite though in Scorpio so it is likely IMO. I'm a 12th houser and I have strong clairvoyant abilities.

I feel those that don't have empathy the 12th house individual will respond to the 12th house planet deceptively and see them as an illusion, a dream but spiritual? Maybe if THEY believe or have spiritual or sensitive empathetic sense then maybe yes they do see the 12th house planet or the 12th house composite as a very empathetic and spiritual connection with the person. But in this case someone who is not sensitive or open to meditation, nope he doesn't see the 12th house or Neptune connections empathetic sweet romantic at all he sees it as an illusion, a lie, a dream to only one day be real.

What are your thoughts? I'd love to know.