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Topic: 12th house synastry - from planet person perspective
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Aeline
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posted October 09, 2012 02:55 PM
  
I'm trying to separate what does it feel for the house person and what - for a planet person. If you had your planets in someone's 12th house, could you briefly describe your feelings, not taking into account other aspects? IP: Logged |
vickymadness
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posted October 09, 2012 02:59 PM
Yes please, I would like to know too, nearly all the threads about 12H synastry is told by the house person. I've always wondered what it is like to the PLANET's person.
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Sorcha
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posted October 09, 2012 03:22 PM
Are you looking for mostly personal planet people? I've been Neptune a few times and it adds either an odd platonic element to the relationship or a very spiritual one. I can also tell you how people have acted towards the relationship when they had personal planets in my 12th house - they had some trust issues with me I think. Some weird witholding energy that had very little to do with the reality of our relationship. IP: Logged |
Aeline
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posted October 09, 2012 03:27 PM
Yeah, exactly - i searched old threads and almost all of them were telling from house person perspective... Yeah, i mean more personal planets, though thanks for sharing your experience.  IP: Logged |
inthemisosoup
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posted October 09, 2012 03:50 PM
My sun is in my boyfriend's 12th house.He feels all the time I'm not being so honest with him; he fears I'm deceiving him and tbh I feel the same from time to time. But we have a neptunian relationship; it is beautiful but confusing at the same time. Any specific questions? It is hard to separate this placement not taking into account aspects. Uhm. Let's see. I don't feel like he is hiding me or keeping me a secret. Let me think some more and get back to you. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
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posted October 09, 2012 04:00 PM
Mars in Cancer in my BF's 12th house.Occasionally I feel like my intense sensuality and desire for closeness and romanticism is ignored or disliked by him. I feel I have to hide the deep longings I have for us to be together at times. I can also feel like the things I try to do for him sexually and romantically can be under-appreciated. Another way this seems to manifest is I have an even harder time expressing anger with him, since it just hurts me so deeply to express it, but from the Cancer I can suddenly explode. Doesn't happen often but when it does it's spectacular and very emotional. In short: I'm highly sexual, especially from Mars being my 5H ruler and strongly making a trine to Pluto, and from it opposing his natal Saturn and being in his 12th I've felt insanely sexually blocked by him at times in the past. IP: Logged |
C1ND3R
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posted October 09, 2012 04:00 PM
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GirlinSeattle
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posted October 09, 2012 05:06 PM
This is with an ex-turned-friend of 7-8 years. My Sun and Mercury are in his 12th. I'm not sure if it's our aspects between Neptune and Sun or if it's the 12th house (or both...), but I find that he thinks he knows me from top down, except he does not. I find that I know him better than he knows me. Except perhaps it's not his fault, as I choose to withhold things but it's not on purpose... they just don't seem to come up in conversations. I also don't end up sharing as much as I would like. Like there's something that's intuitively telling me to hold parts of me back from him. There are things that I feel that I should just leave up to fate, yet he tries to force me to talk everything out and pour out my feelings to him. At the same time, I don't fully trust him nor do I think that he will fully understand the range of my thoughts and feelings. We often get into petty arguments because they stemmed from misunderstandings and miscommunication with emotions/words. In conclusion, this is the most frustrating/difficult relationship/friendship I've had to deal with. He and I are spiritually close, yet there are so many road blocks in the way. He's the only one, so far, with whom I've had prominent 12th house synastry. IP: Logged |
JLyn ~
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posted October 09, 2012 06:13 PM
Friend-only guy friend;
my pluto and saturn in his 12th
i always felt like I was meant to constantly teach him lessons about life in general, but it didn't feel like a burden till I felt he understood enough. Very close tie between us. Then our relationship slowly dissipated My sons father;
my vertex in his 12th house
it's not a planet but we both met while on hard drugs at a music arena. I walked up to him because he looked so familiar, but I had a sense he was lying to me from our first conversation and even though it still felt fated Ex-boyfriend;
my mars in his 12th
I always felt he was doing something behind my back without telling me. I'm already alittle suspicious but the way I had to pull out information from him drove me mentally crazier than normal, it's like he was scared to tell me things (are so i felt) but the best sex LOVED it. We also gave money to these random homeless people around thanksgiving and Christmas without telling another soul a few times. Let's just say we shared some pretty unforgettable moments together in private Work friend;
my moon in her 12th
most everyone talked about her behind her back but I felt so much sympathy for the chick for no reason at all. Basically i clicked with her on an unspokening level, and still do IP: Logged |
PhoenixFire
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posted October 09, 2012 06:20 PM
My husband's Moon is in my 12th, my Pluto is in his 12th. I just feel like we will always be friends, no matter what. He is my best friend always, amidst the hardest times in my life, and vice versa. Even when things are rough, it feels like we can always count on each other. If we were to ever separate, it would be really hard to lose my best friend. I feel we push each other to bring out the best of our potential, like a mentor/coach. He sees me at my worst and still thinks I'm the coolest girl ever =) I see him at this worst and still think he is my rock of steadiness. Personally I think there is too much negative stigma surrounding the 12th house. I'm a 12th houser natally and am comfortable with the energy of retreat...It isn't always a bad thing to have the hidden become visible. It can feel like a big relief, to be loved and accepted exactly as you are. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted October 09, 2012 06:34 PM
Just started getting know someone and my moon falls in their 12th, so far its comforting, i can tell he senses my feelings even from a distance.
Last night i was standing across a busy, noisy room from him, prob 20 feet away, with his back to me and i got a text message that was upsetting to me. As i silently read the message a second time i saw his head jerk up like he was startled and then he turned around and look at me with a look on his face like "is everything ok?" I shook my head yes, and he went back to what he was doing but then asked me again later if everything was ok, did something happen and i explained about the text id gotten.I just found out last night that our virgo moons are conjunct and we have a double whammy with both having libra Ac's with pluto on it! So both our virgo moons fall in the others 12th, and we both have pluto on each others Ac.
Ive always been very sensitive to ppl's emotions that i cared about, but ive never seen anyone intune with me like that. So maybe its the 12th house placement? IP: Logged |
Jovian
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posted October 11, 2012 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by GirlinSeattle:
This is with an ex-turned-friend of 7-8 years. My Sun and Mercury are in his 12th. I'm not sure if it's our aspects between Neptune and Sun or if it's the 12th house (or both...), but I find that he thinks he knows me from top down, except he does not. I find that I know him better than he knows me. Except perhaps it's not his fault, as I choose to withhold things but it's not on purpose... they just don't seem to come up in conversations. I also don't end up sharing as much as I would like. Like there's something that's intuitively telling me to hold parts of me back from him. There are things that I feel that I should just leave up to date, yet he tries to force me to talk everything out and pour out my feelings to him. At the same time, I don't fully trust him nor do I think that he will fully understanding the range of my thoughts and feelings. We often get into petty arguments because they stemmed from misunderstandings and miscommunication with emotions/words. In conclusion, this is the most frustrating/difficult relationship/friendship I've had to deal with. He and I are spiritually close, yet there are so many road blocks in the way. He's the only one, so far, with whom I've had prominent 12th house synastry. [/B]
Wow, this really resonates with my own experience of having my Sun, Jupiter, ASC, and Mercury in another's 12th house. It's as if I assume she'd feel as tuned in to the deeper level of our relationship....yet I fear she is not, and I am deluded about it. Or that she couldn't handle the deep level of understanding I feel I have about her, because perhaps she is not ready to know herself on that level.
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Sorcha
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posted October 11, 2012 08:34 PM
It's funny bc I am reading these and thinking that it sounds like the way I felt with people's planets in my 12th house. I really feel like the energy can work both ways. Or else I am really sensitive (12th house Moon conj Jupiter) and I pick up other's issues. Or both. IP: Logged |
CAY_512
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posted October 11, 2012 08:43 PM
My Sun falls in my husband's 12th and his Sun falls into my 12th and in our composite chart, the sun falls into the 12th. We are very private with our relationship. I don't talk to anyone about us and I read (concerning the composite) that other people don't really see the relationship. It just feels really nice to around him. We can read eachother and know instantly what the other is feeling. We don't have to try hard to understand eachother. We are both giving and both would sacrifice so much for each other (if needed) I feel like he is the only one who knows me completely. IP: Logged |
GirlinSeattle
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posted October 12, 2012 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by CAY_512:
My Sun falls in my husband's 12th and his Sun falls into my 12th and in our composite chart, the sun falls into the 12th. We are very private with our relationship. I don't talk to anyone about us and I read (concerning the composite) that other people don't really see the relationship.
The same person I've had mutual 12th house synastry with has sun in 12th house composite with me. It's so "behind scenes" that it freaks me out. It's a nightmare sometimes. IP: Logged |
CRCRINCON
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posted October 12, 2012 01:59 AM
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Mars in Cancer in my BF's 12th house.Occasionally I feel like my intense sensuality and desire for closeness and romanticism is ignored or disliked by him. I feel I have to hide the deep longings I have for us to be together at times. I can also feel like the things I try to do for him sexually and romantically can be under-appreciated. Another way this seems to manifest is I have an even harder time expressing anger with him, since it just hurts me so deeply to express it, but from the Cancer I can suddenly explode. Doesn't happen often but when it does it's spectacular and very emotional. In short: I'm highly sexual, especially from Mars being my 5H ruler and strongly making a trine to Pluto, and from it opposing his natal Saturn and being in his 12th I've felt insanely sexually blocked by him at times in the past.
Wow. Some of this sounds exactly how I feel with my husband. Been together since 2004. The chemistry is Insane! But he blocks me sexually sometimes. Like its too much for him. And he is very controlled with his emotions.I just want to sexually gobble him up. And too much makes him feel vulnerable. I have 2nd house Jupiter, Juno, and Ceres in Pisces in his 12th and all conjunct his lilith. As a 8th house sun Virgo 8th Venus Leo I am sure this adds to my sexual nature.
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thundered
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posted February 09, 2013 08:47 PM
Someone I.. have an interest in has my Chiron and Moon/Mars conjunct in their 12th house. I have some theories on what that might mean however I kind of suck putting it into words, but it seems like an emotional mix. IP: Logged |
whitewitch111
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posted February 09, 2013 08:49 PM
My sun and moon fall in my lover's chart, not sure what it means though. IP: Logged |
ifyoufalldive
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posted April 20, 2013 12:03 AM
Anyone who's ever had a emotional major impact on my life - mom (Venus in Gem), best friends (Gemini (sun & Venus in Gem) & Leo (Venus in Gem), though not necessarily in that order), ex-boyfriends (Venus or Merc in Gem) - all have personal planets falling in my 12H... Gemini, fairly close to my Gem Asc as well. Someone I recently met has his Sun/Mars in Gem, conj my own 12H Gem Mars. He was the first person that everything physical with just flowed, like we'd done this before as our rhythm seemed instinctive. Nonsexually, as well. But he was too happy too soon, and he's recently divorced, so... I said I'd give him space, so I guess we'll see how life unfolds, yes?IP: Logged |
foxxyxo
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posted April 20, 2013 04:09 AM
one time i had my moon in his 12th and his moon was in my 12th....the best you feel like you can tell eachother everything and anything. we got close really really fast and could talk for hours comfortably and lift each others spirits...we never wanted to stop talking!!!!!!! it was almost like therapy talking to eachother just felt so good to know somebody could understand you so well. definately have a lot of care. it ended though due to other things but he'll always be a very good close friend to me and somebody who i really admirea guy has there sun, merc, saturn, venus in my 12th and i feel like he can literally see right through me, i feel that he understands me more than i even realize he does and without even opening up to him that much. truly does feel like an "invasion" lololol but im okay with it because he sees me as beautiful its uncomfortable yet i kinda love it lol every guy who has theyre venus in my 12th has said they see me as a really beautiful spirit...love those guys haha with just venus there its comfortable, but add more than one planet in my 12th and things start to feel funkayyyyyy IP: Logged |
magicspells
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posted April 20, 2013 04:43 AM
his moon and pluto in my 12thand my uranus and neptune in his 12th how do you reckon this plays out guys? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted April 20, 2013 06:00 AM
In my experience, the house person is more affected by the Neptune "fog" than the planet person.As SS stated, the planet that falls in the 12th house has a hard time being expressed. That, I'm pretty sure of. I've had it happen to me a few times: their Venus in my 12th - they feel like they can't express their love/affection to me. Their Mars in my 12th - their sexuality is blocked, or they can't take action properly around me. Their Moon in my 12th - they can't show their vulnerability/deep emotions to me. And so on.
But that's mainly if the planet is afflicted! If it makes flowing aspects to the house person's planets, it is more easily expressed.
Now, when I'm the planet person, I usually like their 12th house. Like I can see their vulnerabilities and I actually empathize with them. I feel compassionate, and really just plain love them. Not necessarily in a romantic sense, but more in a.. spiritual sense. Like I can see their soul and I deeply accept it and love it. But, as I said, there are exceptions. Sometimes I can't stand them. I guess that depends on the overall synastry.
I've actually only just realized that as the planet person, I do feel something, too.. I used to think that only the house person was affected but that doesn't seem to be true. House person doesn't see planet person clearly and can idealize them or make huge assumptions about them (sometimes negative). But the planet person seems to have the upper hand: they see house person more clearly and are more aware of the situation. That's why the house person can sometimes end up being hurt: they didn't see it coming. They were too busy building castles in the sky, and the planet person happens to have their feet on the ground. Boom! Disillusion. Welcome to reality! I do believe that it can work out wonderfully, too. The house person can have recurrent dreams of the planet person, also. That's an interesting fact I've noticed.
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12thhouser
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posted April 20, 2013 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
In my experience, the house person is more affected by the Neptune "fog" than the planet person.As SS stated, the planet that falls in the 12th house has a hard time being expressed. That, I'm pretty sure of. I've had it happen to me a few times: their Venus in my 12th - they feel like they can't express their love/affection to me. Their Mars in my 12th - their sexuality is blocked, or they can't take action properly around me. Their Moon in my 12th - they can't show their vulnerability/deep emotions to me. And so on.
But that's mainly if the planet is afflicted! If it makes flowing aspects to the house person's planets, it is more easily expressed.
Now, when I'm the planet person, I usually like their 12th house. Like I can see their vulnerabilities and I actually empathize with them. I feel compassionate, and really just plain love them. Not necessarily in a romantic sense, but more in a.. spiritual sense. Like I can see their soul and I deeply accept it and love it. But, as I said, there are exceptions. Sometimes I can't stand them. I guess that depends on the overall synastry.
I've actually only just realized that as the planet person, I do feel something, too.. I used to think that only the house person was affected but that doesn't seem to be true. House person doesn't see planet person clearly and can idealize them or make huge assumptions about them (sometimes negative). But the planet person seems to have the upper hand: they see house person more clearly and are more aware of the situation. That's why the house person can sometimes end up being hurt: they didn't see it coming. They were too busy building castles in the sky, and the planet person happens to have their feet on the ground. Boom! Disillusion. Welcome to reality! I do believe that it can work out wonderfully, too. The house person can have recurrent dreams of the planet person, also. That's an interesting fact I've noticed.
Don't know that I agree. A friend of mine whose Sun falls into my 12th house has told me that she finds me very complex. We were talking about people we both knew and how she can see past their facade to what was underneath. I asked what she saw when she saw through me. She said, "I don't, you're too complex." My dad has his Venus in my 12th and constantly tries to bend over backwards to help me out with things I can do for myself. It's appreciated, but i can do it, lol. I've had other people with planets in my 12th who tell me things similar to what the friend above mentioned. I don't find myself idealizing these people either. What's interesting is that those with activity overlaying my 12th have tended to put me up on a pedestal. Also, keep in mind that although the 12th is a receptive house and some might feel that the house person "feels it more," the planet person may have that planet of their in a receptive house to begin with. That can also affect to what extent a person feels it, house person or planet person. Bottom line from my experience, The planet (or sun or moon) person feels it to a greater degree. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted April 20, 2013 06:23 AM
Bottom line: houses in astrology.. always tricky  IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted April 20, 2013 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Bottom line: houses in astrology.. always tricky
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