posted October 24, 2012 03:17 AM            

If you have Jupiter conjunct Mercury in natal, someone will remark your Mercury will have Jupiter traits...but can your Jupiter not become Mercurial?

posted October 24, 2012 03:25 AM            

example:
i have mars conjunct pluto

mars is a personal planet and pluto is a generational one thus mars has naturally more meaning/influence in the chart (theoretically) thus if there is a conjunction between them pluto is the "weaker" planet and thus is effecting the "stronger" planet that is mars....so the mars is called a "plutonian mars"

posted October 24, 2012 04:56 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
^I mean, I know that, but like...huff, I don't get it.

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well... i think they just take the bigger planet and apply the weaker one to it

anyways i think that "venusian sun" and "solarian venus" would have different interpretations

posted October 24, 2012 05:22 AM            

The faster moving planets, representing youth and impatience, tend to not delve so deeply and simmer in the vibrations of that particular sign: taking only a few months to get familiar with it. Their experience is "behind" or "immateur" in exepelling the vibrations of that sign.

As such, much like old people are seen like the knowledge bearers, the "forward" planets "influence" or "teach" the younger planets on the energy of that particular sign.

But that is not to say that the "older" planets do not learn a thing or two from the so-called "younger" ones. Its just that the intent to absorb what is learnt takes longer for the "older" planet than it does for the younger ones. And goodnes gracious, we only have a maximum of 50 years (some would say a little longer) to get this whole "life" thing working for us. So we gots to be chop chop!

As such, we see more readily the effects of Neptune on Mercury and Pluto on the Moon then the other way around. I mean who has 1000 years on their hands to observe the lessons learnt by Pluto, each time the moon transits a sign?

But, say we did live to 1000000 years or more. The so-called "planets" would become asteroids; with the outer planets being so fast in movement, the inner planets would be rendered too "inconsequential" to figure out.

By then, I'd imagine there would be a new "Moon", a new "Sun", a new"mercury" etc that are "influencing" the outer planets; because these "new" planets would spend atleast 3 centuries in one sign. etc.

posted October 24, 2012 06:25 AM            

I guess what I was really asking was if there is a hierarchy of planets affecting other planets, why does it exist, and why don't planets affect one another equally.

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anyways i think that "venusian sun" and "solarian venus" would have different interpretations

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Of course! But what I mean is like...here are some examples...

posted October 24, 2012 06:44 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:

Of course! But what I mean is like...here are some examples...

Sun-Venus in Leo would produce...a boastful Venus?
Sun-Venus in Libra would make for...an appreciative Sun?
Sun-Venus in a neutral sign, such as Capricorn, would...what? Would they affect one another equally? Would the Sun take on Venus traits or the other way around?

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sun-venus in leo would make a very vain sun...as he/she will be very interested in beauty and social skill (usually his/hers own)

sun-venus in libra would just make a "super libra" and the qualities of the sign will be very strong in the personality (stronger libra sun)

posted October 24, 2012 06:54 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
^Exactly! Those are the results of what happens to the Sun...but what, Venus is only there to affect the Sun? Does the Sun not affect Venus? What happens to Venus in those situations? Does Venus differ/change when it's conjunct the Sun?

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posted October 24, 2012 07:01 AM            

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its takes the romantic vibes of venus and applies them to the sun...

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posted October 24, 2012 07:05 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
There! That's my problem! The romantic vibes of Venus are applied to the Sun, but the active vibes of the Sun aren't applied to Venus?

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posted October 25, 2012 02:37 AM            

I wonder then, since the Sun takes only a month in a particular sign, if the Sun affect Venus- how do we measure it? And what are the outcomes?

I'd gues that since Venus rules external facades(relationships) and internal morals, values and personal money, it would make for a very self-conscious lover(Venus) who likes his partner to reflect his own moral standing in everything(Sun). And if they happen to be good-looking(Venus), it adds to his own self confidence(Sun).