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Topic: The Astrology Of Racism?
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 7206 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 27, 2012 11:43 AM
This is a Southern Baptist who married another Southern Baptist. We are hardly repressed. We have as much sex as we want, and it may be a tad too much. One of us is Caucasian. One is Asian. So, there goes the issue of racism. But stop talking smack, please. IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 5223 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 27, 2012 11:57 AM
Someone mentioned Scorpio/Pisces, and I'm far from a racistIP: Logged |
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posted October 27, 2012 01:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: It occurs to me just how so many signs are like a coin, having 2 sides that are very different and a coin can land on either side. That is, they have potential to go either way, often an opposite way. So like a Sag can be the ultimate philosopher that can get to the truth of the matter, physically fit, and grow as a person while exploring the world or the ultimate hypocrite who cares more about style over substance (in terms of law, religion, etc), physically damaged from constant reckless behavior, and one to run away from any obligations or responsibilities...there's a similar energy to both manifestations, but one manifests in a positive way and another in a negative way (I'd say most to all have a mix of the good and bad traits). And I can think of many other signs like that...and I'm starting to see Pisces as that way...hmph, the words escape me at the moment, oh, well...
That is so true, so very true. There is potential within every sign to be a shining beacon of humanity or just the worst thing ever. IP: Logged |
lovehate122 Knowflake Posts: 508 From: Ireland Registered: Apr 2012
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posted October 27, 2012 02:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: This is a Southern Baptist who married another Southern Baptist. We are hardly repressed. We have as much sex as we want, and it may be a tad too much. One of us is Caucasian. One is Asian. So, there goes the issue of racism. But stop talking smack, please.
stop being so sensitive if you can't have an objective argument then please don't bother posting ! IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 9781 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 27, 2012 06:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: This is a Southern Baptist who married another Southern Baptist. We are hardly repressed. We have as much sex as we want, and it may be a tad too much. One of us is Caucasian. One is Asian. So, there goes the issue of racism. But stop talking smack, please.
IIRC, you're a charismatic Baptist, and if so then you're hardly typical. I never even heard of such before LL. All the Baptists I've ever known (and it's a few) considered charismatics like Pentecostals little better than snake handlers (even if I knew some Baptists that passed around Chick tracts, though even then they avoided the more charismatic-theme ones), and a few even suggested their so-called "holy spirit" was actually demons making them thrash about and speak in tongues. In turn many Pentecostals considered the (non-charismatic) Baptists to be missing an essential component of salvation. Granted, I'd still bet the same way with a charismatic Baptist because what I said applies equally to the fundamentalist charismatics, and I stand by what I said based on frequent exposure (especially in the Bible Belt), but as I pretty much said earlier ("Not to say they're all like that, or even most"), they're not all that way, that's just the way to bet. Also, I've known too many fundamentalist Christians (fundies of any religion actually) and thus I automatically doubt anything they have to say on the matter. IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 2405 From: Portland, OR Registered: May 2009
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posted October 27, 2012 10:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aquacheeka: s members since the early 1900's).I do believe that sun signs influence people's proneness to radicalism. I think that my own sign of Aquarius is one of them, only Aquarians tend to be radical Marxists.
Um, Karl Marx is a Taurus Sun and he created Marxism. IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 2405 From: Portland, OR Registered: May 2009
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posted October 27, 2012 10:22 PM
Also racism is solely based on the environment you were raised in. I don't think astrology can determine it. IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 7119 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted October 27, 2012 10:40 PM
I am going to stick with negative natal aspects rather than sun signs, Martin Luther King was a Capricorn, Nelson Mandela is Cancer & Ashley Montagu was a cancer. I am not sold on the idea that a sun sign can determine racism especially with the biggest factor of them all nature vs. nurture that has the underlining issues of different socio-economic status, religion, sexual orientation, education (social education and academic) and gender that add or subtract the influences of pro-equality or pro-racism. IP: Logged |
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posted October 29, 2012 01:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by vertiver: Um, Karl Marx is a Taurus Sun and he created Marxism.
Yeah, he was also an Aquarius ascendant. Your point is?? IP: Logged |
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posted October 29, 2012 01:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by vertiver: Also racism is solely based on the environment you were raised in. I don't think astrology can determine it.
Please provide evidence (even anecdotal will do) to support your statement. Nothing that makes me crazier than a know-it-all with no point. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 9781 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 30, 2012 05:04 AM
Adding to what I said about the Baptists (and other religious--as opposed to spiritual--types), here's from a sting on paedophiles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFZc2CuCor4 They say the most disturbing was the guy at 3:10, and he really is a piece of work. Close to the 5 minute part it goes to this (emphasis added): This man with the incredibly vulgar chat reveals something that ironically no longer surprises us: "I was a minister in the church." I couldn't make out the name of his church but it was Baptist. One of the other commentators also wasn't surprised. It's just too common.  That said, I'd like to repeat again: "Not to say they're all like that, or even most" IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6614 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 30, 2012 06:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aquacheeka: Please provide evidence (even anecdotal will do) to support your statement.Nothing that makes me crazier than a know-it-all with no point.
Astrology & environment go hand in hand. Intolerance will find its target within the environment. There are cultures (hello Europe) which haven't had contact with races other than caucasian,and they can't imagine why would anyone hate people of different colour. But,they have strong national identity,which in contact with people of different nationality and often religion leads to patriotism's ugly side : nationalism,and feel very righteous in their sentiments. One with specific astro print will hate differently in USA than EU. Same energy,different victim. IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 4934 From: The Sun Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 30, 2012 11:32 AM
I think a better question is not which signs are racist, but which signs are more likely to stick to how they were raised (in this case, racist). Personally, I think Mercury would be better looked at as Mercury governs thinking, something critical to changing views. quote: Water Signs are most programmable.
Yeah, I get what you're saying, I was going to say water signs too. So petty...I find lots of times water filters what it hears (ie. listening to someone over someone else based on personal like). IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 2128 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted October 30, 2012 11:53 AM
Re: The stat of almost all members of the KKK being water signs: I'm going to have to call BS.There were times in certain parts of the country when it was pretty much compulsory to be a part of the KKK if you were a white man at all involved in public life. You were a member of the Rotary, maybe the Masons, and the KKK. Now, if you want to argue that water signs were more prevalent as members if the KKK in certain areas (like where it wasn't "the norm"), I might buy that. I also may be more inclined to believe (since we only have anecdotal evidence) that Water-heavy people are more sentimental, more tribal. For what it's worth, my Water and Air-heavy maternal family stuck with being Bretheren (think very liberal Amish) for quite a long time, even through being burned out by both sides during the Civil War. (They were pacifists and neither side was cool with that.) ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
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posted October 30, 2012 02:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: Water Signs are most programmable. Racism is a disease spread from programming by racist elders and racist documentation. Thus, it makes sense for a vast majority of racists to be emotionally programmed water signs. However, I am sure there are many other harsh aspects that numb Spiritual thinking and allow this disease to spread in their Aura. I would look at Jupiter squares to Moon or Mercury that curtail higher wisdom to those who choose to stay inside the box.
I agree that water signs are the most programable (vunerable)... IS this why I have been influenced my so many idiotic things and I am a Cancer?
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posted October 30, 2012 05:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: Re: The stat of almost all members of the KKK being water signs: I'm going to have to call BS.There were times in certain parts of the country when it was pretty much compulsory to be a part of the KKK if you were a white man at all involved in public life. You were a member of the Rotary, maybe the Masons, and the KKK. Now, if you want to argue that water signs were more prevalent as members if the KKK in certain areas (like where it wasn't "the norm"), I might buy that. I also may be more inclined to believe (since we only have anecdotal evidence) that Water-heavy people are more sentimental, more tribal. For what it's worth, my Water and Air-heavy maternal family stuck with being Bretheren (think very liberal Amish) for quite a long time, even through being burned out by both sides during the Civil War. (They were pacifists and neither side was cool with that.)
Oh yes, that's exactly what it was. She examined the birth records and conducted interviews for KKK in specific states beginning in Indiana where apparently there was (and is) a large prescence. The last state she investigated was NJ I believe but that may no longer be the case as she is still conducting her research. IP: Logged |
arcturus90 Knowflake Posts: 561 From: Arcturus Registered: Nov 2017
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posted January 04, 2019 09:34 AM
I found out something that explains racism. Asteroid "patria". I don't know if a similar word exists in english but in french it means "homeland", "fatherland", kind of love for one's own homeland. I noticed that the racist guys that I know have this asteroid conjunct one planet. One has it conjunct Jupiter (but he says he's not really racist, and that he's not hateful, so I don't know but whatever), one has it conjunct his 5 planets conjunction (sun, venus, mars, mercury, uranus) !! and one has it conjunct his mercury. Oh, and my grand father who seemed a little racist (I don't know if he really was), who said some xenophobic things (but I tolerate, he's my grandfather), has it conjunct Venus. All these conjunctions are tight. Of course asteroid Patria is not just about racism, loving our country is not a bad thing just as long as it's not turning into racism. IP: Logged |
DRVM614K Knowflake Posts: 431 From: Tugsten Depths Province, SA Registered: Nov 2018
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posted January 04, 2019 12:33 PM
Cap I could c with them wanting to continue tradition. It's funny all th water suns though. Its cut and dry racism is based off of emotion and not anything substantial and concrete, which presses towards the lack of competence in these people.IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 1366 From: Registered: Jul 2017
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posted January 04, 2019 01:55 PM
The problem with sun sign Cancer being overly represented in stuedies like this is that, more babies are born at July in USA atleast.And there are studies aabout that aswell lol... So, I would take it with a grain of salt, cancer being overrepresented^^ IP: Logged |
arcturus90 Knowflake Posts: 561 From: Arcturus Registered: Nov 2017
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posted January 08, 2019 05:55 PM
here : (1347) Patria 1931 VW. Discovered 1931 Nov. 6 by G. N. Neujmin at Simeis. This is the Latin word for native country or fatherland. (H 122)
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diamondbaby Knowflake Posts: 1007 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted January 08, 2019 05:59 PM
Unevolved Scorpio Moon, in my opinion.IP: Logged |
Hu_w_ryl_A Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted January 12, 2019 07:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by arcturus90: I found out something that explains racism. Asteroid "patria". I don't know if a similar word exists in english but in french it means "homeland", "fatherland", kind of love for one's own homeland. I noticed that the racist guys that I know have this asteroid conjunct one planet. One has it conjunct Jupiter (but he says he's not really racist, and that he's not hateful, so I don't know but whatever), one has it conjunct his 5 planets conjunction (sun, venus, mars, mercury, uranus) !! and one has it conjunct his mercury. Oh, and my grand father who seemed a little racist (I don't know if he really was), who said some xenophobic things (but I tolerate, he's my grandfather), has it conjunct Venus. All these conjunctions are tight. Of course asteroid Patria is not just about racism, loving our country is not a bad thing just as long as it's not turning into racism.
@arcturus90 Thanks for the info!! I have a boyfriend who isn't racist (or well, he shouldn't be, since I'm foreign ) but lately he was acting very weird and saying things like: Deutschland out of the blue (meaning: Germany) which is where he is from.. Anyhow, I just checked out his progressions and guess what - his progressed Mars is conjunct Patria in his natal!! IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 1366 From: Registered: Jul 2017
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posted January 12, 2019 10:57 AM
Its not "patriotism" that causes racism. Its fear for the unknown and bad experiences the person had real or not, that some connect to a whole religion, ethnicity etc. So look at the chart for that indicator. Fear of the unknown, and a blaming nature etc. ---No quotings please---
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 6298 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 12, 2019 12:31 PM
So 7 years later, no one has produced a link to that supposed study linking Pisces and some other signs to KKK...IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 4903 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 14, 2019 12:11 AM
Yeah, and the post about that did not specify Sun signs or what. There's either some missing information or some serious reductionism.Here's the link to David Duke's chart at ADB: https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Duke,_David_Ernest Here's the link to Hitler's chart at ADB: https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Hitler,_Adolf Who spots the obvious common factor? Understand astrological factors are not causative, but a person/soul's mishandling or under-developing of particular astrological energies can be the problem. We don't just get a birth chart. We also then are working with the energies of all the planets and either persisting with inborn patterns or developing further. ------------------ "Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Expert Rectification IP: Logged |